Andrew Bynum

KnockDownTheJ · Post #1221 » by **KnockDownTheJ** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 6:54 pm

I agree with an above poster I think Bynum preferred Pacers system IMO rather than the headless chicken defense. We'll see how this plays out. Honestly, I'm not sure how Bynum would have fit exactly in the rotation but it would have been nice to have that depth and option...just don't think Bynum got a clear indication that he would play with us so he chose to sign the Indiana.

homecourtloss · Post #1222 » by **homecourtloss** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:03 pm

Riley et. al., must have their reasons, but it does seem strange. I know a lot has happened over the past six months, but could you imagine last summer people talking about Bynum being available for a million? Scary thing is that Bynum literally doesn't have to do anything for them and they would be fine with it, but what if he actually plays well? He had a some good games this year.

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #1223 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:06 pm

Lmao at people talking that Bynum passed on us.

We passed on his bum ass. Come on folks.

kidco2 · Post #1224 » by **kidco2** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:08 pm

AlexCRO wrote:
kidco2 wrote:
AlexCRO wrote:
yeah but the big 3 has some infulance too trust me... look it this way

reported:

bynum wants money ( signs for 1 mill )
bynum wants playing time ( he is a third center there curently )
bynum wants starting minutes ( yeah right )
etc. etc.

There were no obstacles in that regard. i think riley wanted it and arison was willing to pay. but spo and the big 3 was against

yea right so bosh gets to play against Hibbert during ECF again.

well knowing spo and his small ball lineups you never know

You can never rely on one single system forever, opponents gradually learned, adapted and emulate over the years, let alone small ball could still be effective for a roster with potential aging issue. Glad we got Oden thou.

El Alonzo scowl · Post #1225 » by **El Alonzo scowl** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:17 pm

It's fine to be concerned but to quit on the season in February? Pathetic, you shouldn't be allowed back in the board like those fairweather losers that left Game 6 early weren't allowed back in the AAA.

AlexCRO · Post #1226 » by **AlexCRO** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:21 pm

kidco2 wrote:
AlexCRO wrote:
kidco2 wrote:yea right so bosh gets to play against Hibbert during ECF again.

well knowing spo and his small ball lineups you never know

You can never rely on one single system forever, opponents gradually learned, adapted and emulate over the years, let alone small ball could still be effective for a roster with potential aging issue. Glad we got Oden thou.

TELL THAT TO SPO but in all fairness he is starting to realize that himself

deedsy · Post #1227 » by **deedsy** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:26 pm

maybe the Heat staff think we have a good chance at landing Okafor

AlexCRO · Post #1228 » by **AlexCRO** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:29 pm

deedsy wrote:maybe the Heat staff think we have a good chance at landing Okafor

maybe but i still think ZO is working his a** off behind the scenes and will attempt a comeback. better then okafor anyway. XD

Flash4thewin · Post #1229 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:35 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:Lmao at people talking that Bynum passed on us.

We passed on his bum ass. Come on folks.

We had an offer out there for him.
He declined our offer. Pretty cut and dry Bynum passed on us.

On a national level don't be surprise to hear BS like "the heat
are so cheap they won't spend a million for a center". If the heat won't surround Lebron with talent in a contract year etc bs. Come playoff time I have a bad feeling UD will be out starting center

fishfuego. · Post #1230 » by **fishfuego.** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:40 pm

deedsy wrote:maybe the Heat staff think we have a good chance at landing Okafor

Isn't Okafor like 6'9.
Lol

kidco2 · Post #1231 » by **kidco2** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:45 pm

AlexCRO wrote:
kidco2 wrote:
AlexCRO wrote:
well knowing spo and his small ball lineups you never know

You can never rely on one single system forever, opponents gradually learned, adapted and emulate over the years, let alone small ball could still be effective for a roster with potential aging issue. Glad we got Oden thou.

TELL THAT TO SPO but in all fairness he is starting to realize that himself

Well now you're lacking confidence with Spo's small ball?

KnockDownTheJ · Post #1232 » by **KnockDownTheJ** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:51 pm

If you're Andrew Bynum and the Heat offer u 1 million and the Pacers offer you 1 million who would u play for so u can showcase yourself to get a big contract next year? The Pacers simply play a style that is oriented around a big center who can be relatively immobile, the Heat do not. I think with the Pacers there is far more certainty with playing time and style of play. Just being honest even though I would have liked the Heat to have had a chance to fit him in.

heatlespeatles · Post #1233 » by **heatlespeatles** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 7:58 pm

KnockDownTheJ wrote:If you're Andrew Bynum and the Heat offer u 1 million and the Pacers offer you 1 million who would u play for so u can showcase yourself to get a big contract next year? The Pacers simply play a style that is oriented around a big center who can be relatively immobile, the Heat do not. I think with the Pacers there is far more certainty with playing time and style of play. Just being honest even though I would have liked the Heat to have had a chance to fit him in.

NOPE!!!!! he doesn't care about that style nonsense. He wants to play a lot of minutes. So everyone associated with him says. He would choose Miami if its a minutes thing. Its not, Miami didn't want him, its that simple.

Heat3 · Post #1234 » by **Heat3** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 8:10 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
Heat_Fan_87 wrote:Lmao at people talking that Bynum passed on us.

We passed on his bum ass. Come on folks.

We had an offer out there for him.
He declined our offer. Pretty cut and dry Bynum passed on us.

On a national level don't be surprise to hear BS like "the heat
are so cheap they won't spend a million for a center". If the heat won't surround Lebron with talent in a contract year etc bs. Come playoff time I have a bad feeling UD will be out starting center

what offer? do we even have a roster spot? lol. miami could have gotten him in the off season and took Oden instead. any number of teams could have had him now for weeks and no one but the pacers offered him anything.

UD our starting center? have you even watched the heat the last 3 years? Bosh is the starting center and that isn't going to change this year regardless of who is on this team.

KnockDownTheJ · Post #1235 » by **KnockDownTheJ** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 8:14 pm

heatlespeatles wrote:
KnockDownTheJ wrote:If you're Andrew Bynum and the Heat offer u 1 million and the Pacers offer you 1 million who would u play for so u can showcase yourself to get a big contract next year? The Pacers simply play a style that is oriented around a big center who can be relatively immobile, the Heat do not. I think with the Pacers there is far more certainty with playing time and style of play. Just being honest even though I would have liked the Heat to have had a chance to fit him in.

NOPE!!!!! he doesn't care about that style nonsense. He wants to play a lot of minutes. So everyone associated with him says. He would choose Miami if its a minutes thing. Its not, Miami didn't want him, its that simple.

I think you're misunderstanding my mentioning style because the only reason I'm saying the style matters is because in all likelihood he believes he will get more minutes because of the style they play. Bynum would not start on the Heat and may not even be the clear backup depending on how Greg Oden pans out. Meaning he may not have even been in the rotation for sure. With the Pacers he's more likely to be the clear backup C thus more minutes and a bigger contract next year.

Don't get me wrong however I believe he could have been had if we had offered him, say, the mmle but from the Heat perspective he was not worth that price for a multitude of reasons.

Flash4thewin · Post #1236 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 8:22 pm

Heat3 wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Heat_Fan_87 wrote:Lmao at people talking that Bynum passed on us.

We passed on his bum ass. Come on folks.

We had an offer out there for him.
He declined our offer. Pretty cut and dry Bynum passed on us.

On a national level don't be surprise to hear BS like "the heat
are so cheap they won't spend a million for a center". If the heat won't surround Lebron with talent in a contract year etc bs. Come playoff time I have a bad feeling UD will be out starting center

what offer? do we even have a roster spot? lol. miami could have gotten him in the off season and took Oden instead. any number of teams could have had him now for weeks and no one but the pacers offered him anything.

UD our starting center? have you even watched the heat the last 3 years? Bosh is the starting center and that isn't going to change this year regardless of who is on this team.

We couldn't sign him in the offseason he went for the cavs deal. It's been said we had a min offer waiting for him to accept. The roster spot could be addressed quickly. Just a bad feeling Bosh might get hurt this playoffs (knock on wood).

HeatDaChamps · Post #1237 » by **HeatDaChamps** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 8:39 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
Heat3 wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
We had an offer out there for him.
He declined our offer. Pretty cut and dry Bynum passed on us.

On a national level don't be surprise to hear BS like "the heat
are so cheap they won't spend a million for a center". If the heat won't surround Lebron with talent in a contract year etc bs. Come playoff time I have a bad feeling UD will be out starting center

what offer? do we even have a roster spot? lol. miami could have gotten him in the off season and took Oden instead. any number of teams could have had him now for weeks and no one but the pacers offered him anything.

UD our starting center? have you even watched the heat the last 3 years? Bosh is the starting center and that isn't going to change this year regardless of who is on this team.

We couldn't sign him in the offseason he went for the cavs deal. It's been said we had a min offer waiting for him to accept. The roster spot could be addressed quickly. Just a bad feeling Bosh might get hurt this playoffs (knock on wood).

i dont think thats true at all, who said we gave an offer to him? And if we did, how is indiana a more attractive destination. Here, he is arguably the starting center. There? hes an extra big body. Just doesnt make any sense why he would choose them over us.

Post #1238 » by **heat4life** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 8:44 pm

Pat Riley went from Godfather to Stepfather ....noooo!! :roll:

pelican piranha · Post #1239 » by **pelican piranha** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 8:52 pm

You guys can downplay this all you want, but this is not good news for Miami. The Pacers are stacked and definitely have an advantage now. Bynum being in there when Hibbert is out or in foul trouble will greatly increase their chances. Bad day for the Heat. 3peat not looking too promising now.

Bosh is going to get absolutely destroyed on the glass now. They better hope and pray that Oden stays healthy and gives them something.

heatlespeatles · Post #1240 » by **heatlespeatles** » Sat Feb 1, 2014 8:52 pm

KnockDownTheJ wrote:
heatlespeatles wrote:
KnockDownTheJ wrote:If you're Andrew Bynum and the Heat offer u 1 million and the Pacers offer you 1 million who would u play for so u can showcase yourself to get a big contract next year? The Pacers simply play a style that is oriented around a big center who can be relatively immobile, the Heat do not. I think with the Pacers there is far more certainty with playing time and style of play. Just being honest even though I would have liked the Heat to have had a chance to fit him in.

NOPE!!!!! he doesn't care about that style nonsense. He wants to play a lot of minutes. So everyone associated with him says. He would choose Miami if its a minutes thing. Its not, Miami didn't want him, its that simple.

I think you're misunderstanding my mentioning style because the only reason I'm saying the style matters is because in all likelihood he believes he will get more minutes because of the style they play. Bynum would not start on the Heat and may not even be the clear backup depending on how Greg Oden pans out. Meaning he may not have even been in the rotation for sure. With the Pacers he's more likely to be the clear backup C thus more minutes and a bigger contract next year.

Don't get me wrong however I believe he could have been had if we had offered him, say, the mmle but from the Heat perspective he was not worth that price for a multitude of reasons.

Understood, but he would need to be very much better than Ian Mahimi and I'm not sure they will bench Ian for him but we will see.

I personally think they signed him only to keep him away from us.