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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1241 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:18 am

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HeatWillRise wrote:dont fun canada.

And nah, my diet was always on point. It really depends on genetics as well, I was always a hard-gainer so I couldnt have that luxury to do sprints always.

Ohhhh.

Try steroids/hgh (don't remember). I remember some years ago I went from a skinny 215lbs and struggling to bench 135lbs to 265lbs and benching 3xx (don't remember anymore 315lbs-350lbs), deadlifting and squatting 405. All of that in 3 weeks with pretty **** training to be quite honest. I ate so much **** food though. Freaked everyone out. I have explosive calves though, which means long ass tendons, so they stay skinny :(.

I remember I posted that on the knicks board in some workout thread and no one believed me of course. Not taking into account that at the time I was a very skinny 6'5" with a 7' wingspan and a naturally wide frame, even when skinny. I have a few progress pics as proof but I didn't feel like **** on that whole thread cuz I'm not too keen on posting my pics/face on here. It obviously wasn't pure muscle, because that is obviously impossible but that strength told no lies. Hated it though. I killed people on the basketball court. Couldn't scratch my back. Would accidentally break random **** by accident. It was cool though because it went from "what basketball team do you play for" to "oh what position do play on the dolphins" lols.

You were on that dreamer bulk brah :lol:

Yeah must feel nice, did you not play football in HS/College? Scholarships?

I played very little WR my freshman year of high school. Got on varsity right after tryouts but quit because I didn't like the contact (long ass story short, don't mock an all-state linebacker for shaking his soul during practice. Because you'd never know his best friend was the qb....who set you up for a concussion the next play. Fkn bounced along the grass like tumbleweed, apparently.). I'll tell the story another time. Outside of throwing down some dunks for classmates/friends (had some serious vert), i didn't like playing basketball until later in my senior year, mostly because I didn't understand it. Got really good at playing semi-pro with bro-in-law (sat me down and forced me to study all of Wade after high school, that's when I fell in love with it) and got invited to walk on at local community colleges and surprisingly FIU was interested. A few people invited me to go overseas but I wasn't about that life. Didn't pursue it. Felt like a commitment that I should have started at a younger age. Pops is Jamaican, grew up in a soccer household. When I have my kids, that will be remedied.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1242 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:22 am

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HeatWillRise wrote:Yep great site, just avoid the misc section Quiz.

How big are you HWR? If you don't mind me asking?

How big are you HWR?

How big are you

How big


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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1243 » by DayofMourning » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:34 am

I learned the basics of bodybuilding courtesy of Arnold Schwaznegger's Bodybuilding Encyclopedia. Fantastic resource.

As for cardio, if you're trying to cut, I prefer running hills. Do 15 minutes of that and you're good to go. Efficient exercising.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1244 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:46 am

I forgot to update you guys on the preworkout I bought; EVL by Evlution Nutrition. It's pretty good. Decent pump, decent energy, decent focus, just a touch of niacin for the right amount of tingly feeling. It's more like a jack of all trades preworkout instead of a specific one. I'd recommend it to anyone. I want to try Nutrabio Pre next, but it costs more serving per dollar and is only available on amazon and not bodybuilding.com
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1245 » by DayofMourning » Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:59 am

KingDavid wrote:I forgot to update you guys on the preworkout I bought; EVL by Evlution Nutrition. It's pretty good. Decent pump, decent energy, decent focus, just a touch of niacin for the right amount of tingly feeling. It's more like a jack of all trades preworkout instead of a specific one. I'd recommend it to anyone. I want to try Nutrabio Pre next, but it costs more serving per dollar and is only available on amazon and not bodybuilding.com


Might give that a try as my C4 is about out. Have you tried any of the Jym supplements? They've got fantastic reviews, but I can find a much better deal at Costco, so I haven't taken the plunge.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1246 » by QUIZ » Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:05 am

Man I wish that I was 6' 5" :(
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1247 » by goodboy » Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:19 am

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KingDavid wrote:I forgot to update you guys on the preworkout I bought; EVL by Evlution Nutrition. It's pretty good. Decent pump, decent energy, decent focus, just a touch of niacin for the right amount of tingly feeling. It's more like a jack of all trades preworkout instead of a specific one. I'd recommend it to anyone. I want to try Nutrabio Pre next, but it costs more serving per dollar and is only available on amazon and not bodybuilding.com


Might give that a try as my C4 is about out. Have you tried any of the Jym supplements? They've got fantastic reviews, but I can find a much better deal at Costco, so I haven't taken the plunge.

I've tried Jym, It's decent. Price is high, if it was lower I'd recommend unless you don't mind spending that much on a pre. C4 was absolutely non-existent for me.

Going to go and try Ritual by ANS down the line, mostly centered around focus.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1248 » by DayofMourning » Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:50 am

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KingDavid wrote:I forgot to update you guys on the preworkout I bought; EVL by Evlution Nutrition. It's pretty good. Decent pump, decent energy, decent focus, just a touch of niacin for the right amount of tingly feeling. It's more like a jack of all trades preworkout instead of a specific one. I'd recommend it to anyone. I want to try Nutrabio Pre next, but it costs more serving per dollar and is only available on amazon and not bodybuilding.com


Might give that a try as my C4 is about out. Have you tried any of the Jym supplements? They've got fantastic reviews, but I can find a much better deal at Costco, so I haven't taken the plunge.

I've tried Jym, It's decent. Price is high, if it was lower I'd recommend unless you don't mind spending that much on a pre. C4 was absolutely non-existent for me.

Going to go and try Ritual by ANS down the line, mostly centered around focus.


C4 works really well for me. Though sometimes I get a little too edgy. Get's me too jittery. Mix that in with leg days and I'm on my knees.

Let me know how Ritual works out for you. Always willing to try something new.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1249 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:32 am

DayofMourning wrote:
KingDavid wrote:I forgot to update you guys on the preworkout I bought; EVL by Evlution Nutrition. It's pretty good. Decent pump, decent energy, decent focus, just a touch of niacin for the right amount of tingly feeling. It's more like a jack of all trades preworkout instead of a specific one. I'd recommend it to anyone. I want to try Nutrabio Pre next, but it costs more serving per dollar and is only available on amazon and not bodybuilding.com


Might give that a try as my C4 is about out. Have you tried any of the Jym supplements? They've got fantastic reviews, but I can find a much better deal at Costco, so I haven't taken the plunge.

Nope. Haven't tried that yet. I'll try it after I'm done with Nutrabio. Does it favor a certain response over another? Like focus vs pump vs energy?
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1250 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:33 am

QUIZ wrote:Man I wish that I was 6' 5" :(

It was fun while it lasted. I'm now 6' 6 1/2".






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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1251 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:34 am

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KingDavid wrote:I forgot to update you guys on the preworkout I bought; EVL by Evlution Nutrition. It's pretty good. Decent pump, decent energy, decent focus, just a touch of niacin for the right amount of tingly feeling. It's more like a jack of all trades preworkout instead of a specific one. I'd recommend it to anyone. I want to try Nutrabio Pre next, but it costs more serving per dollar and is only available on amazon and not bodybuilding.com


Might give that a try as my C4 is about out. Have you tried any of the Jym supplements? They've got fantastic reviews, but I can find a much better deal at Costco, so I haven't taken the plunge.

I've tried Jym, It's decent. Price is high, if it was lower I'd recommend unless you don't mind spending that much on a pre. C4 was absolutely non-existent for me.

Going to go and try Ritual by ANS down the line, mostly centered around focus.

Bit everything costs more in Canada.

Man that sucks for you guys.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1252 » by goodboy » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:53 am

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Might give that a try as my C4 is about out. Have you tried any of the Jym supplements? They've got fantastic reviews, but I can find a much better deal at Costco, so I haven't taken the plunge.

I've tried Jym, It's decent. Price is high, if it was lower I'd recommend unless you don't mind spending that much on a pre. C4 was absolutely non-existent for me.

Going to go and try Ritual by ANS down the line, mostly centered around focus.

Bit everything costs more in Canada.

Man that sucks for you guys.

Well I mean, we have our own nutritional shops around, I use about 2-3 which are fairly cheap so yeah lol.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1253 » by QUIZ » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:02 am

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QUIZ wrote:Man I wish that I was 6' 5" :(

It was fun while it lasted. I'm now 6' 6 1/2".






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Jeeze. Thats huge, you must stand out wherever you go.

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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1254 » by QUIZ » Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:24 am

HeatWillRise wrote:I don't do cardio though If I was to cut, I would do a brisk walk on the treadmill. (Which I haven't done in centuries lol) I usually just watch what I eat and determine that on bulking/cutting. Cardio is good, but also a tool. Long as your diet is in check and know how many calories you're consuming, you're golden. If you're strict about cutting and have a timeline to meet, look up HIIT on google.

For determining how many cals I take in and what not, I use myfitnesspal app, straight forward helpful app for your macro-nutrients. But yeah If you want to do cardio, do a brisk walk on the treadmill for 20-30 mins max(After your lifting session), don't need to go full blown sprints lol as you'd burn away the muscle you made.

I'm worried about my diet when lifting man. In the past 7 months I've lost about 50lbs by going on a major calorie deficit. For example today I ate 1100 calories and that's not unusual so I'd say normally I'm between 1100-1300 calories consumed per day. I think that's 1000 calories below my matienance calories. Lol

I've gotten used to it but this is how I've dropped so much weight with pretty much zero exercise.

I still have a ways to go though as far as getting my body fat down to where I want it to be. Originally I figured by the fall if I kept it up I'd get to where I wanted to be weight wise.

But I want to start slowly getting into lifting. I just don't know if trying to build muscle while cutting fat is counter productive.

And I don't know if it'd be wise to start lifting with such a huge calorie deficit every day.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1255 » by goodboy » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:00 am

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HeatWillRise wrote:I don't do cardio though If I was to cut, I would do a brisk walk on the treadmill. (Which I haven't done in centuries lol) I usually just watch what I eat and determine that on bulking/cutting. Cardio is good, but also a tool. Long as your diet is in check and know how many calories you're consuming, you're golden. If you're strict about cutting and have a timeline to meet, look up HIIT on google.

For determining how many cals I take in and what not, I use myfitnesspal app, straight forward helpful app for your macro-nutrients. But yeah If you want to do cardio, do a brisk walk on the treadmill for 20-30 mins max(After your lifting session), don't need to go full blown sprints lol as you'd burn away the muscle you made.


I'm worried about my diet when lifting man. In the past 7 months I've lost about 50lbs by going on a major calorie deficit. For example today I ate 1100 calories and that's not unusual so I'd say normally I'm between 1100-1300 calories consumed per day. I think that's 1000 calories below my matienance calories. Lol

I've gotten used to it but this is how I've dropped so much weight with pretty much zero exercise.

I still have a ways to go though as far as getting my body fat down to where I want it to be. Originally I figured by the fall if I kept it up I'd get to where I wanted to be weight wise.

But I want to start slowly getting into lifting. I just don't know if trying to build muscle while cutting fat is counter productive.

And I don't know if it'd be wise to start lifting with such a huge calorie deficit every day.

Congrats on a major weight loss Quiz :)

Up your protein intake. If you're worried about putting on weight again by upping your cals abit dont. Minimize on carbs if you're too skeptical. Buy a protein supplement, low in cals and fat, high in protein. Bodybuilding.com/store as great deals. Go for Whey/Isolate protein.

Since you have never lifted before, you will gain muscle as you will lose weight at the same time. No question about that. Your body is new to these movements and it will have no choice to respond when meeting new challenges. Now, 1000 is too high on a deficit as you train, dim it down too -500 in deficit and go from there, trial and error. Do cardio if you must to meet your desired weight too. But again, don't be to concerned about not making muscle gains.

I don't know how much you weigh and what your goal weight is too, that stuff gets taken into account too.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1256 » by QUIZ » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:21 pm

HeatWillRise wrote:Congrats on a major weight loss Quiz :)

Up your protein intake. If you're worried about putting on weight again by upping your cals abit dont. Minimize on carbs if you're too skeptical. Buy a protein supplement, low in cals and fat, high in protein. Bodybuilding.com/store as great deals. Go for Whey/Isolate protein.

Since you have never lifted before, you will gain muscle as you will lose weight at the same time. No question about that. Your body is new to these movements and it will have no choice to respond when meeting new challenges. Now, 1000 is too high on a deficit as you train, dim it down too -500 in deficit and go from there, trial and error. Do cardio if you must to meet your desired weight too. But again, don't be to concerned about not making muscle gains.

I don't know how much you weigh and what your goal weight is too, that stuff gets taken into account too.

So I decided I would try and get some cardio in today. I hate running(it's really boring) but I like swimming.

So I get in the pool which is freezing by the way but I adjusted after a little while.

So I swam in sets of about 10 laps for 30 minutes. I was breathing pretty hard in between my 30 second breaks but overall it was pretty good and i felt fine. But then I got out of the pool and I felt like ****.

I'm currently tying not to throw up. **** me
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Post#1257 » by QUIZ » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:25 pm

Alright I'm better now. Maybe I shouldn't have eaten right before working out :-?
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Post#1258 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:57 pm

QUIZ wrote:Alright I'm better now. Maybe I shouldn't have eaten right before working out :-?

I stuff my face before and after I workout. Whole chicken breast with salad. Two of them. I very rarely vomit or get nausea from workouts. But if I do, it's because I didn't eat.
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1259 » by KingDavid » Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:00 pm

QUIZ wrote:
HeatWillRise wrote:Congrats on a major weight loss Quiz :)

Up your protein intake. If you're worried about putting on weight again by upping your cals abit dont. Minimize on carbs if you're too skeptical. Buy a protein supplement, low in cals and fat, high in protein. Bodybuilding.com/store as great deals. Go for Whey/Isolate protein.

Since you have never lifted before, you will gain muscle as you will lose weight at the same time. No question about that. Your body is new to these movements and it will have no choice to respond when meeting new challenges. Now, 1000 is too high on a deficit as you train, dim it down too -500 in deficit and go from there, trial and error. Do cardio if you must to meet your desired weight too. But again, don't be to concerned about not making muscle gains.

I don't know how much you weigh and what your goal weight is too, that stuff gets taken into account too.

So I decided I would try and get some cardio in today. I hate running(it's really boring) but I like swimming.

So I get in the pool which is freezing by the way but I adjusted after a little while.

So I swam in sets of about 10 laps for 30 minutes. I was breathing pretty hard in between my 30 second breaks but overall it was pretty good and i felt fine. But then I got out of the pool and I felt like ****.

I'm currently tying not to throw up. **** me

I thought you wanted to lift weights?
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Re: Random Thoughts XVI 

Post#1260 » by heat4life » Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:01 pm

QUIZ wrote:
HeatWillRise wrote:Congrats on a major weight loss Quiz :)

Up your protein intake. If you're worried about putting on weight again by upping your cals abit dont. Minimize on carbs if you're too skeptical. Buy a protein supplement, low in cals and fat, high in protein. Bodybuilding.com/store as great deals. Go for Whey/Isolate protein.

Since you have never lifted before, you will gain muscle as you will lose weight at the same time. No question about that. Your body is new to these movements and it will have no choice to respond when meeting new challenges. Now, 1000 is too high on a deficit as you train, dim it down too -500 in deficit and go from there, trial and error. Do cardio if you must to meet your desired weight too. But again, don't be to concerned about not making muscle gains.

I don't know how much you weigh and what your goal weight is too, that stuff gets taken into account too.

So I decided I would try and get some cardio in today. I hate running(it's really boring) but I like swimming.

So I get in the pool which is freezing by the way but I adjusted after a little while.

So I swam in sets of about 10 laps for 30 minutes. I was breathing pretty hard in between my 30 second breaks but overall it was pretty good and i felt fine. But then I got out of the pool and I felt like ****.

I'm currently tying not to throw up. **** me


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