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2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10

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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1241 » by VaDe255 » Sat May 10, 2025 1:02 am

twix2500 wrote:
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VaDe255 wrote:What I heard:

- They need to make changes to win, be it philosophically or personal wise
- They build around Bam/Tyler, they are happy to have Herro and hope he can play his whole career here
- Getting out of the repearter tax is a priority

Sounds like they are running it back (meaning Herro/Bam are their best players)

It's good to get a heads up to not get invested.
Lol you all know how to keep yourself angry

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Not angry—just realistic.

I’ve said it before: they’ve only won more than 50 games once in the 10 years since LeBron left.
That’s a decade of mostly mediocrity. Pat sounded like the perfect politician, said a lot without committing to anything and contradicted himself more than once.

Feels like they’re just setting the stage to run it back and stay mid.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1242 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat May 10, 2025 1:06 am

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Been telling you Bammy. This is the play that made sense all along. Even before the Riley presser. Been steadfast on this move. All the stars have aligned.


It’s time, contention next season. We’re BYKE.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1243 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat May 10, 2025 1:42 am

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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1244 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat May 10, 2025 2:25 am

If we have to trade Duncan in this deal I’m almost certain Mitchell is not coming back. Will be left with only 8.6 million under the tax. Wiggins, Jovic, Larrson, and Duncan is a 54.5 for 54.7 Durant match. That means we have to find a flip of Rozier, JJJ, and a 1st rd pick in another deal. This leaves us with 9.2 million under the tax line. I know for a fact Suns are going to press for Jovic as they need help at the 4 spot. With Wiggins, Dunn, and Larrson they don’t need anymore wings.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1245 » by Beenie » Sat May 10, 2025 2:43 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:If we have to trade Duncan in this deal I’m almost certain Mitchell is not coming back. Will be left with only 8.6 million under the tax. Wiggins, Jovic, Larrson, and Duncan is a 54.5 for 54.7 Durant match. That means we have to find a flip of Rozier, JJJ, and a 1st rd pick in another deal. This leaves us with 9.2 million under the tax line. I know for a fact Suns are going to press for Jovic as they need help at the 4 spot. With Wiggins, Dunn, and Larrson they don’t need anymore wings.


If Dru Smith can get back by around x-mas, which would make it a full year of recovery, then I'm totally fine with allowing Mitchell to walk if he's gonna demand an 8 figure yearly salary.

Mia's gonna need flexibility if the idea is too indeed shape a title contending roster around Durant and the Titos.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1246 » by unowen85 » Sat May 10, 2025 2:49 am

TroubleS0me wrote:yes we are NOT gonna run it back lol
cmon get Giannis


Gotta see how Riles plays this out. Durant is likely the easier acquisition, but Giannis is his dream acquisition. So Riley probably doesn’t want to rush a Durant deal in the hopes that Giannis asks out. And if Riley spends too much time on moving pieces around to get assets for a Giannis trade that might never materialize, will another team swoop in and get Durant in the meantime.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1247 » by Slot Machine » Sat May 10, 2025 3:18 am

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Sarver and tax savings? What year does Barry think this is?

Ishbia has the Suns with the highest payroll in the league, has indicated serious disdain for tanking/rebuilding, and has insisted they will remain competitive in his end of season presser. That certainly doesn’t sound like someone who is looking to cut salary by any means/sees the tax as a huge issue. Not well thought out by Barry at all.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1248 » by twix2500 » Sat May 10, 2025 3:31 am

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Sarver and tax savings? What year does Barry think this is?

Ishbia has the Suns with the highest payroll in the league, has indicated serious disdain for tanking/rebuilding, and has insisted they will remain competitive in his end of season presser. That certainly doesn’t sound like someone who is looking to cut salary by any means/sees the tax as a huge issue. Not well thought out by Barry at all.


Suns can't make moves unless they get under the apron. They MUST get rid of salary
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1249 » by Enso » Sat May 10, 2025 3:40 am

Wiggins next to Booker makes sense, allows Book to become the clear cut 1 again and Wigs can be be the elite role player he is.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1250 » by Hallstar » Sat May 10, 2025 3:57 am

Enso wrote:Wiggins next to Booker makes sense, allows Book to become the clear cut 1 again and Wigs can be be the elite role player he is.

Wiggins long 2s like he's TMac frustrated me to no end
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1251 » by Hoops3355 » Sat May 10, 2025 4:12 am

twix2500 wrote:I think there are sideline GMs watching Heat looking and waiting for a job opportunity to open. They are watching it closely. The Heat franchise has been a place that job openings is never open. And hopes are when changes at the top happen will there be a large change in staff and management also. Its remain to be seen. I do think Bob Myers is someone who really waiting for the Heat openings to happen. The Heat franchise is the one place that has long term job security and that is gold mine for anyone who want a nba job and a great living destination



You think they're gonna fire Andy? I don't think that's gonna vibe with Micky. He runs it like a family and Andy been with the team along time. Pat probably gets replaced internally at this point via Zo, I sorta assumed Zo would eventually given a promotion? Interesting to think about. Agree about the position being insanely desirable.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1252 » by Daffy » Sat May 10, 2025 4:41 am

Suns new GM seems as if he wants to keep KD.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1253 » by marson » Sat May 10, 2025 5:20 am

Daffy wrote:Suns new GM seems as if he wants to keep KD.


Giannis pipedream still alive.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1254 » by batterybro42 » Sat May 10, 2025 5:47 am

eddieheatfan wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:What a terrible day for heat fans
he should have resigned or retire or whatever. the fact that he didnt... oh well this team is going to suck for awhile do not expect getting out of the 10th seed only to be swept at the 1st round of the playoffs


I’m so sorry you have had to deal with only 3 ECF appearances and 2 finals in the last 6 years

And only 7 finals appearances in the last 19 years

Maybe you could be a Magic or Hornets fan
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1255 » by batterybro42 » Sat May 10, 2025 5:57 am

Shewasfly wrote:The need for the star to be "humble" part stood out and is a bit of a red flag, but that's Riley :nonono: . As long as he's in charge, whatever players (and even coaches for that matter) that we have--regardless of how talented--will always have to compete with this ego. It's known at this point and is what it is. I really wish he would have just kept that piece to himself though.

Anyway, all aboard the KD train. Hopefully it comes with a Sexton/Collins style trade as well. Though I fear we'd have to give up Ware go back to small ball to make it all happen :cry:


Would not be the worst thing. I may be alone in the camp in the thinking that for Bam to be at his best he needs to play the 5. He’s not a young player anymore we need to stop expecting some crazy leap where all the sudden he becomes a perimeter option. Can he shoot 3s sure he can, plenty of 5s do. I like Ware a lot but between him and Bam I think one can improve the team in a trade more than they can improve the team on the floor.

I didn’t want to trade Caron Butler way back when, I didn’t want to trade Beasley, heck I didn’t want to move Winslow. All were the right moves, anytime Miami has significantly shuffled the roster it’s typically come at the expense of whatever young talent they have.

As Riley said they have done this a bunch of times. Not a single player in that press conference was even referenced outside Bam and Herro.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1256 » by Slot Machine » Sat May 10, 2025 5:57 am

twix2500 wrote:
Slot Machine wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Read on Twitter

Sarver and tax savings? What year does Barry think this is?

Ishbia has the Suns with the highest payroll in the league, has indicated serious disdain for tanking/rebuilding, and has insisted they will remain competitive in his end of season presser. That certainly doesn’t sound like someone who is looking to cut salary by any means/sees the tax as a huge issue. Not well thought out by Barry at all.


Suns can't make moves unless they get under the apron. They MUST get rid of salary

They can just decline Micic’s option to get under the 2nd apron. If they want, it’s pretty simple to get below the first apron as well by dumping Cody Martin and Royce o’Neale.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1257 » by VaDe255 » Sat May 10, 2025 6:24 am

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eddieheatfan wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:What a terrible day for heat fans
he should have resigned or retire or whatever. the fact that he didnt... oh well this team is going to suck for awhile do not expect getting out of the 10th seed only to be swept at the 1st round of the playoffs


I’m so sorry you have had to deal with only 3 ECF appearances and 2 finals in the last 6 years

And only 7 finals appearances in the last 19 years

Maybe you could be a Magic or Hornets fan


Sure, but the Heat, Magic, and Hornets all have the same number of championships in the last 10 years, zero.
We’re basically part of the same elite tier of title less dynasties.

The difference is Miami gets a bunch of “almost” banners:
“Bubble Run Legends”
"One shot away from Finals in 2022"
“Took a Game off the Nuggets in 2023”

So yeah, the Heat had more dramatic exits and nationally televised heartbreak, but they're all still watching someone else raise the trophy every June and it will remain for the forseeable future.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1258 » by twix2500 » Sat May 10, 2025 10:59 am

Hoops3355 wrote:
twix2500 wrote:I think there are sideline GMs watching Heat looking and waiting for a job opportunity to open. They are watching it closely. The Heat franchise has been a place that job openings is never open. And hopes are when changes at the top happen will there be a large change in staff and management also. Its remain to be seen. I do think Bob Myers is someone who really waiting for the Heat openings to happen. The Heat franchise is the one place that has long term job security and that is gold mine for anyone who want a nba job and a great living destination



You think they're gonna fire Andy? I don't think that's gonna vibe with Micky. He runs it like a family and Andy been with the team along time. Pat probably gets replaced internally at this point via Zo, I sorta assumed Zo would eventually given a promotion? Interesting to think about. Agree about the position being insanely desirable.


Definitely do not think they will fire Andy but move him to a new position.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1259 » by marson » Sat May 10, 2025 11:00 am

Riley’s press conference confirms Herro’s extension and screams Kevin Durant. I'm curious about how the first year will unfold, everything needs to align perfectly, especially given KD’s injury history.
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Re: 2025 Regular/Offseason Season Thread Vol. 10 

Post#1260 » by contract » Sat May 10, 2025 11:38 am

marson wrote:Riley’s press conference confirms Herro’s extension and screams Kevin Durant. I'm curious about how the first year will unfold, everything needs to align perfectly, especially given KD’s injury history.

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