2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition

[MettaWorldPanda]

Jimmys not going anywhere. We’re going all in this summer with Lowrys expiring, Herro, Jovic, and all of our picks to finally build the best roster next to Jimmy and Bam.

In Pat we trust!

Yup I just looked over every depth chart and salary situation in the league and Jimmy ain’t going anywhere. He’s going to try and build for one final run around the players you mentioned above with the 2023,2028, and 2030 in play. They’ll keep the protections on OKC for 2025. Probably for there own good as rebuilding might happen in the 25/26 year.

If you mean rebuild in 2025-26 as in Mitchell and Tatum are coming to join their boy and remake the big 3 they grew up watching then I agree

If that happens then OKC is S-O-L with that pick lol

[Flash4thewin]

I don’t see any viable trade around the league for Butler so consider him a lifer. Only two teams that make sense that won’t have Butler crying and screaming are the Bucks for Middleton and Sixers for Harris. Problem is that neither of those teams have tradeable first for a while. I also don’t want to hear you traded me for Tobias Harris either.

Well if we go by the notion that teams will do their players right like some here swears happens, then guess I can see us trading Butler for Harris so he has a legit chance to win a championship with his BFF in PJ and Embiid. I personally don't see it happening but for those that swear about teams doing the right thing then I guess it makes some sense, and It helps with the tax.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yup I just looked over every depth chart and salary situation in the league and Jimmy ain’t going anywhere. He’s going to try and build for one final run around the players you mentioned above with the 2023,2028, and 2030 in play. They’ll keep the protections on OKC for 2025. Probably for there own good as rebuilding might happen in the 25/26 year.

If you mean rebuild in 2025-26 as in Mitchell and Tatum are coming to join their boy and remake the big 3 they grew up watching then I agree

If that happens then OKC is S-O-L with that pick lol

Speaking of OKC, if there really is a star out there that becomes available and the team isn’t too interested in Herro, I think OKC and Utah are good destinations for Herro.

Sometimes you have to take advantage of the market and with those teams having almost too many 1st round picks I think we could snag 3 from either to buff up our package quite a bit. That would give us a total of 6 picks and Jovic with Lowrys expiring still to do something massive.

Just a thought, im not doom and gloom about our assets because I think there are ways to increase them quite a bit if we get creative and take advantage of the market.

If you remember last years draft OKC was kind of just throwing away 1sts because they didn’t have enough roster spots for everyone if they continued drafting lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I don’t see any viable trade around the league for Butler so consider him a lifer. Only two teams that make sense that won’t have Butler crying and screaming are the Bucks for Middleton and Sixers for Harris. Problem is that neither of those teams have tradeable first for a while. I also don’t want to hear you traded me for Tobias Harris either.

Well if we go by the notion that teams will do their players right like some here swears happens, then guess I can see us trading Butler for Harris so he has a legit chance to win a championship with his BFF in PJ and Embiid. I personally don't see it happening but for those that swear about teams doing the right thing then I guess it makes some sense, and It helps with the tax.

Teams do their players right all the time lol, it’s a players league. Surely you see this.

That being said you don’t just trade him for trash, the team is usually still giving up majority of their assets. If I’m sending Jimmy to Philly then Maxey is where we start

[MettaWorldPanda]

If you mean rebuild in 2025-26 as in Mitchell and Tatum are coming to join their boy and remake the big 3 they grew up watching then I agree

If that happens then OKC is S-O-L with that pick lol

Speaking of OKC, if there really is a star out there that becomes available and the team isn’t too interested in Herro, I think OKC and Utah are good destinations for Herro.

Sometimes you have to take advantage of the market and with those teams having almost too many 1st round picks I think we could snag 3 from either to buff up our package quite a bit. That would give us a total of 6 picks and Jovic with Lowrys expiring still to do something massive.

Just a thought, im not doom and gloom about our assets because I think there are ways to increase them quite a bit if we get creative and take advantage of the market.

If you remember last years draft OKC was kind of just throwing away 1sts because they didn’t have enough roster spots for everyone if they continued drafting lol

I came to the realization this year even more that nothing is getting done with Utah as long as Ainge is there. I see the Hornets as potentially looking into Herro using Rozier and other pieces. Them retaining PJ Washington and looking to add his BFF as Lamelo’s backcourt mate makes sense.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If that happens then OKC is S-O-L with that pick lol

Speaking of OKC, if there really is a star out there that becomes available and the team isn’t too interested in Herro, I think OKC and Utah are good destinations for Herro.

Sometimes you have to take advantage of the market and with those teams having almost too many 1st round picks I think we could snag 3 from either to buff up our package quite a bit. That would give us a total of 6 picks and Jovic with Lowrys expiring still to do something massive.

Just a thought, im not doom and gloom about our assets because I think there are ways to increase them quite a bit if we get creative and take advantage of the market.

If you remember last years draft OKC was kind of just throwing away 1sts because they didn’t have enough roster spots for everyone if they continued drafting lol

I came to the realization this year even more that nothing is getting done with Utah as long as Ainge is there. I see the Hornets as potentially looking into Herro using Rozier and other pieces. Them retaining PJ Washington and looking to add his BFF as Lamelo’s backcourt mate makes sense.

That wouldn’t be too bad as long as we’re getting picks in the deal for something bigger. If not then I don’t think Riley is interested in that tbh

[AirP.]

If you mean rebuild in 2025-26 as in Mitchell and Tatum are coming to join their boy and remake the big 3 they grew up watching then I agree

If that happens then OKC is S-O-L with that pick lol

Speaking of OKC, if there really is a star out there that becomes available and the team isn’t too interested in Herro, I think OKC and Utah are good destinations for Herro.

Sometimes you have to take advantage of the market and with those teams having almost too many 1st round picks I think we could snag 3 from either to buff up our package quite a bit. That would give us a total of 6 picks and Jovic with Lowrys expiring still to do something massive.

Just a thought, im not doom and gloom about our assets because I think there are ways to increase them quite a bit if we get creative and take advantage of the market.

If you remember last years draft OKC was kind of just throwing away 1sts because they didn’t have enough roster spots for everyone if they continued drafting lol

OKC? They're already set at the 2 guard spots.
SGA, Giddy, J.Williams, Dort, and I.Joe.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

OKC has the young players, they have assets, they're going to be looking to trade for an available bigtime player at PF or SF.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

If that happens then OKC is S-O-L with that pick lol

Speaking of OKC, if there really is a star out there that becomes available and the team isn’t too interested in Herro, I think OKC and Utah are good destinations for Herro.

Sometimes you have to take advantage of the market and with those teams having almost too many 1st round picks I think we could snag 3 from either to buff up our package quite a bit. That would give us a total of 6 picks and Jovic with Lowrys expiring still to do something massive.

Just a thought, im not doom and gloom about our assets because I think there are ways to increase them quite a bit if we get creative and take advantage of the market.

If you remember last years draft OKC was kind of just throwing away 1sts because they didn’t have enough roster spots for everyone if they continued drafting lol

OKC? They're already set at the 2 guard spots.
SGA, Giddy, J.Williams, Dort, and I.Joe.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

They can mix and match a ton of those guys

[AirP.]

Speaking of OKC, if there really is a star out there that becomes available and the team isn’t too interested in Herro, I think OKC and Utah are good destinations for Herro.

Sometimes you have to take advantage of the market and with those teams having almost too many 1st round picks I think we could snag 3 from either to buff up our package quite a bit. That would give us a total of 6 picks and Jovic with Lowrys expiring still to do something massive.

Just a thought, im not doom and gloom about our assets because I think there are ways to increase them quite a bit if we get creative and take advantage of the market.

If you remember last years draft OKC was kind of just throwing away 1sts because they didn’t have enough roster spots for everyone if they continued drafting lol

OKC? They're already set at the 2 guard spots.
SGA, Giddy, J.Williams, Dort, and I.Joe.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

They can mix and match a ton of those guys

Right, Dort (defense), I.Joe(3pt shooting) and SGA, Gidden and J.Williams can be their triple threat guys, maybe all 3 of those guys being really good triple threats in a few more years.

Point being, they're not a Herro destination, no need to add a 30 million dollar bench guy.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

OKC? They're already set at the 2 guard spots.
SGA, Giddy, J.Williams, Dort, and I.Joe.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

They can mix and match a ton of those guys

Right, Dort (defense), I.Joe(3pt shooting) and SGA, Gidden and J.Williams can be their triple threat guys, maybe all 3 of those guys being really good triple threats in a few more years.

Point being, they're not a Herro destination, no need to add a 30 million dollar bench guy.

I disagree

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[al bondiga]

I don’t see any viable trade around the league for Butler so consider him a lifer. Only two teams that make sense that won’t have Butler crying and screaming are the Bucks for Middleton and Sixers for Harris. Problem is that neither of those teams have tradeable first for a while. I also don’t want to hear you traded me for Tobias Harris either.

Well if we go by the notion that teams will do their players right like some here swears happens, then guess I can see us trading Butler for Harris so he has a legit chance to win a championship with his BFF in PJ and Embiid. I personally don't see it happening but for those that swear about teams doing the right thing then I guess it makes some sense, and It helps with the tax.

I would not waste someone like JB On a value for same value trade... If I was in the front office I would do Something revolutionary...like JB for a young future all star, Even though it may Seem apparent we loose in the trade... AGE!!

If not We can't get it done ...then... I'm all for Keeping a Proven winner like JB

[MettaWorldPanda]

They can mix and match a ton of those guys

Right, Dort (defense), I.Joe(3pt shooting) and SGA, Gidden and J.Williams can be their triple threat guys, maybe all 3 of those guys being really good triple threats in a few more years.

Point being, they're not a Herro destination, no need to add a 30 million dollar bench guy.

I disagree

I'm also in the camp that OKC has no need for Herro. Spurs and the Hornets would be the most likely of suitors.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Lmao!

We could’ve not gave him his extension and matched his like 4/$80M offer in RFA and been looking much better

[Kobewade11]

i dunno it's just a diff time & era. One cat cut from the same cloth as past greats is Jimmy. I'd love for Bam to come out & say the stuff Butler says & then deliver on it. Could you imagine Bam telling the media he's sick of losing or that we're going to win a championship. That's the sort of toughness he needs to show. That toughness will spread to the entire team. Instead we get "We're human". F*ck outta here man. No wonder we're shooting like a bunch of soft pansies. We gotta hold each other accountable. I come from the 90s era man. I don't play this bullsh*t.

I’d move heaven and earth for Ant Edwards, Jimmy included. That is the kind of personality we could use, unfortunately talented young stars dont get moved this early

[MettaWorldPanda]

Kristaps Porzingis has a 36 million dollar player option coming up on 6/29. He’s a prime candidate to opt in and request a trade. Lowry and Martin equal his contract. Schwartz might have something else up his sleeve for the Heat. The draft is on 6/22

[MettaWorldPanda]

Pat Riley loves him some Tyler smoking Herro. It’s hard expecting much from Herro on defense with his 6’3 wingspan. Same as with JJ Redick who also came with a 6’3 wingspan. Doesn’t mean they can’t play major roles but we need to build smart around such a player. Like get some shot blocking to cover mistakes instead of playing so small.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I still remember what it was like to have a truly high potential and elite SG blossoming before our eyes, man I miss that feeling of having someone like Wade. I get it somewhat with Bam and knowing how elite of a player he is going to be when he truly peaks but Wade was different. You just knew from the jump he was the real deal and going to be the best player in the world, by year 3 he was.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Pat Riley loves him some Tyler smoking Herro. It’s hard expecting much from Herro on defense with his 6’3 wingspan. Same as with JJ Redick who also came with a 6’3 wingspan. Doesn’t mean they can’t play major roles but we need to build smart around such a player. Like get some shot blocking to cover mistakes instead of playing so small.

We gotta pack him up and get him out of here brotha, he’s not the JJ type and he definitely isn’t paid like it. He doesn’t need to be on this team next season, this summer is the summer to go all in. He is a massive liability to a team that claims they’re trying to win championships