2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 7 - It’s about to go down

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I like the Wiggins pickup, I’ll like it a lot more when we get that number 1 star and we have elite 2 way guys in Bam/wiggins playing off them and Herro getting open looks off ball and scoring efficiently.

Like the pick, like the Mitchell pickup a lot.

Dont like we got forced into keeping Anderson, don’t like that we waited for it to get this point to trade Jimmy. If we were never going to pay him (we clearly weren’t) we could’ve got a haul for him last summer from the Sixers or Knicks who tried to get him before bridges

C+

Call me crazy but as long as the league continues to trend towards spamming 3's, as much as I hate that style, I think Tyler can continue to rise and potentially be a top 10 guy, which is about the minimum you need for a star to lead you to a championship unless its a fluke year like the 04 Pistons. I think in any other era, as nice as Herro's development has been, he peaks as a top 25-30 guy who is occasionally an all-star and can either be a nice #2 or a great 6th man. But in this era where the 3-point shot is everything, as a guy who can hit them at volume, at a high percentage, either spotting up or off the dribble in just about any situation... he's basically looking like Steph Curry, minus some passing I guess.

I gotta disagree there, I don’t think we’re winning anything with him as the 1st or 2nd best player on a team. He can be the 2nd best scorer sure but we need a true lead guy that can make winning plays on both ends and get his own offense at will when needed

He's definitely got to prove it in the playoffs. But the numbers and the eye test at least so far this year, look really good. And I would have called myself crazy if I said this before the season.

Also not saying he's there yet, or if he will ever get there. He basically has to make one more leap, and do it in the postseason, and the higher you go the harder it is to keep getting better. It'd be a complete homer take to just assume it happens. But I'm actually seeing the potential now, I didn't see it his first few years in the league.

[Enso]

That year we lost to the C's in game 7 we had an awesome roster.

Lowry wasn't a bad pick up just greedy. 20 mil a year would of been fair.

Im thinking vet min wouldve been fair. Look at his playoff numbers. If hed have given us average we mightve champed.

If you go by real production he ended up giving us, then yeah def vet min lol

but I'm saying at the time considering he didn't want to leave Toronto and how he still looked decent there, 20 mil while still an over pay I would of been ok with if you take into consideration the leadership he brings too.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[powerball1373]

Was funny watching many Warriors fans/analysts basically say FML for trading Wiggins for $60 mil/yr boy. They were not happy.

I get it. Trading a 29 year old who plays twice as many games and puts up similar numbers to a retired NBA player making $60 mil a year for the next 2.5 years......FML. Light years behind.

As someone that used to live in SF and has a secondary interest in the Warriors, I can confirm. Def feels like more people upset about trading Wiggins than happy with getting Jimmy.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Call me crazy but as long as the league continues to trend towards spamming 3's, as much as I hate that style, I think Tyler can continue to rise and potentially be a top 10 guy, which is about the minimum you need for a star to lead you to a championship unless its a fluke year like the 04 Pistons. I think in any other era, as nice as Herro's development has been, he peaks as a top 25-30 guy who is occasionally an all-star and can either be a nice #2 or a great 6th man. But in this era where the 3-point shot is everything, as a guy who can hit them at volume, at a high percentage, either spotting up or off the dribble in just about any situation... he's basically looking like Steph Curry, minus some passing I guess.

I gotta disagree there, I don’t think we’re winning anything with him as the 1st or 2nd best player on a team. He can be the 2nd best scorer sure but we need a true lead guy that can make winning plays on both ends and get his own offense at will when needed

He's definitely got to prove it in the playoffs. But the numbers and the eye test at least so far this year, look really good. And I would have called myself crazy if I said this before the season.

Also not saying he's there yet, or if he will ever get there. He basically has to make one more leap, and do it in the postseason, and the higher you go the harder it is to keep getting better. It'd be a complete homer take to just assume it happens. But I'm actually seeing the potential now, I didn't see it his first few years in the league.

I’m definitely happy with his development this year, last night was good for him. He has been struggling for a little prior to that hopefully that ignites another big run, we have Celtics and Thunder coming up so we need everyone at the top of their games

[DayofMourning]

To clarify, I’m asking about the overall vision for the future.

Supposedly, plan A was to create max space for 2026 and pray that an elite player would actually become an UFA and choose Mia.

With Luka and Fox basically off the board, and with Wiggins eating into their space, that no longer appears to be the vision.

Meanwhile, they still have a two timeline split in their roster make-up with Bam, Wiggins n Herro on one end and all the kids on the other.

Adding a pick this year, (should they keep it) plays into their young timeline.

I’m fine with that so long as they commit to that as their vision and start trading off their vets in the offseason.

If they intend to compete, then they should be open to trading their young players to add a vet star.

As of now, there’s doesn’t appear to a clear direction.

All teams have to have vets and young guys. Weve got a good mix. A helluva lot better now since subtracted 6 years from the exp date on our starting SF.

With Rozier turning things around, Bam turning things around, having a legit elite NBA POA defender, Herro going nuts, Ware being amazing in his minutes, and having a team guy putting up the same stats as Butler without being coached up by Spo......*huff huff* It looks like the Heat plan on competing. Look at the stupid level of defense we added....wow. Its meant to matchup for the playoffs. Tatum remembers Wiggins. Davions nickname is night off. We could be surprised Beenie.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Also seeing Tyler's chemistry with guys like Bam and Ware (he connects with them on lobs more than anyone including any of our supposed "point guards") is a great sign. I felt in years past when Tyler was in the game he had classic 6th man energy, part of which is a spark off the bench, but also a tendency to break the offense and "get yours" when you get in there. That's not there anymore, he seems content to get 5 assists in a quarter and only shoot once or twice, if that's what the defense gives him.

Agreed though that to really crack that top 10 level, he has to be able to take over at times and get his, but not like he used to where he breaks the offense, but rather where he steps up when nobody else has it going, the way a true star does.

[Hoops3355]

I like the Wiggins pickup, I’ll like it a lot more when we get that number 1 star and we have elite 2 way guys in Bam/wiggins playing off them and Herro getting open looks off ball and scoring efficiently.

Like the pick, like the Mitchell pickup a lot.

Dont like we got forced into keeping Anderson, don’t like that we waited for it to get this point to trade Jimmy. If we were never going to pay him (we clearly weren’t) we could’ve got a haul for him last summer from the Sixers or Knicks who tried to get him before bridges

C+

Call me crazy but as long as the league continues to trend towards spamming 3's, as much as I hate that style, I think Tyler can continue to rise and potentially be a top 10 guy, which is about the minimum you need for a star to lead you to a championship unless its a fluke year like the 04 Pistons. I think in any other era, as nice as Herro's development has been, he peaks as a top 25-30 guy who is occasionally an all-star and can either be a nice #2 or a great 6th man. But in this era where the 3-point shot is everything, as a guy who can hit them at volume, at a high percentage, either spotting up or off the dribble in just about any situation... he's basically looking like Steph Curry, minus some passing I guess.

Yeah, he's clutch which you have to have as top 10 guy. My opinion on him has shifted a lot this season and I can see where we're going offensively. Think Wiggins (3pa) alone is going to really open up the offense for Tyler because you can't blitz him and his dribble package and size against most pgs he can abuse.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Tim_Hardawayy]

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lol

honestly I don't hate Jimmy, the man wants his money and he's been transparent about it. Should've worked harder, but it is what it is.

[DayofMourning]

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Yeah, Id be joyful if I got an extra $60 mil too.

Would be fine standing in the corner for Steph.

[Beenie]

The biggest need on this team prior to the deadline was a high iq ball handler and that hasn’t changed one bit.

Wiggins is a quality 2-way player and he’ll fit in just fine but I don’t see him appreciably better than what Caleb Martin was for the team.

Mitchell plays great D and not so great O.

Might be sparingly useful but when he’s bricking 3s on a regular basis, I suspect he’ll fall out of favor.

Been, Wiggins was a #2 on a championship team. Caleb doesn't even sniff his jock strap. I think time will bear out just how much of a value add Wiggins will provide to our roster.

After Curry, that roster was more of an ensemble of contributing players with different guys emerging game to game. Wiggins wasn’t exactly a clear cut #2.

Furthermore, Martin was arguably the best player in a 7 game series against the Celtics; but that aside, stylistically and physically, he’s not all too different of a player than Wiggins is. Not saying the two are on equal footing, but the comparison is most definitely valid.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Tim_Hardawayy]

The biggest need on this team prior to the deadline was a high iq ball handler and that hasn’t changed one bit.

Wiggins is a quality 2-way player and he’ll fit in just fine but I don’t see him appreciably better than what Caleb Martin was for the team.

Mitchell plays great D and not so great O.

Might be sparingly useful but when he’s bricking 3s on a regular basis, I suspect he’ll fall out of favor.

Been, Wiggins was a #2 on a championship team. Caleb doesn't even sniff his jock strap. I think time will bear out just how much of a value add Wiggins will provide to our roster.

After Curry, that roster was more of an ensemble of contributing players with different guys emerging game to game. Wiggins wasn’t exactly a clear cut #2.

Furthermore, Martin was arguably the best player in a 7 game series against the Celtics; but that aside, stylistically and physically, he’s not all too different of a player than Wiggins is. Not saying the two are on equal footing, but the comparison is most definitely valid.

I see where you're going, but I still think if you feel Butler to Wiggins is disrespectful to Jimmy, Caleb to Wiggins is arguably just as disrespectful to Wiggins. Caleb had one nice playoff series, Wiggins has had a nice career and been an all-star.

[Daffy]

I like the Wiggins pickup, I’ll like it a lot more when we get that number 1 star and we have elite 2 way guys in Bam/wiggins playing off them and Herro getting open looks off ball and scoring efficiently.

Like the pick, like the Mitchell pickup a lot.

Dont like we got forced into keeping Anderson, don’t like that we waited for it to get this point to trade Jimmy. If we were never going to pay him (we clearly weren’t) we could’ve got a haul for him last summer from the Sixers or Knicks who tried to get him before bridges

C+

Call me crazy but as long as the league continues to trend towards spamming 3's, as much as I hate that style, I think Tyler can continue to rise and potentially be a top 10 guy, which is about the minimum you need for a star to lead you to a championship unless its a fluke year like the 04 Pistons. I think in any other era, as nice as Herro's development has been, he peaks as a top 25-30 guy who is occasionally an all-star and can either be a nice #2 or a great 6th man. But in this era where the 3-point shot is everything, as a guy who can hit them at volume, at a high percentage, either spotting up or off the dribble in just about any situation... he's basically looking like Steph Curry, minus some passing I guess.

I like Tyler Herro and I have believed in him for some time now but I can honest say.....

We are not winning a championship with Tyler Herro as our #1 option on offense. Let's pump the brakes and be realistic.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I like the Wiggins pickup, I’ll like it a lot more when we get that number 1 star and we have elite 2 way guys in Bam/wiggins playing off them and Herro getting open looks off ball and scoring efficiently.

Like the pick, like the Mitchell pickup a lot.

Dont like we got forced into keeping Anderson, don’t like that we waited for it to get this point to trade Jimmy. If we were never going to pay him (we clearly weren’t) we could’ve got a haul for him last summer from the Sixers or Knicks who tried to get him before bridges

C+

Call me crazy but as long as the league continues to trend towards spamming 3's, as much as I hate that style, I think Tyler can continue to rise and potentially be a top 10 guy, which is about the minimum you need for a star to lead you to a championship unless its a fluke year like the 04 Pistons. I think in any other era, as nice as Herro's development has been, he peaks as a top 25-30 guy who is occasionally an all-star and can either be a nice #2 or a great 6th man. But in this era where the 3-point shot is everything, as a guy who can hit them at volume, at a high percentage, either spotting up or off the dribble in just about any situation... he's basically looking like Steph Curry, minus some passing I guess.

I like Tyler Herro and I have believed in him for some time now but I can honest say.....

We are not winning a championship with Tyler Herro as our #1 option on offense. Let's pump the brakes and be realistic.

Definitely not any kind of prediction or expectation. Just think its a possibility, where before this season I would have thought the idea crazy.

And it would still have to be somewhat of an ensemble situation. Sort of like the Celtics last year, where Tatum/Brown and even Derrick White took turns being the most important guy on any given night.

Just saying though, in a league where the 3-point shot gets more valuable every season, unless rule changes are made to reel that back, it definitely favors Tyler. He is shooting like prime Steph. For comparison's sake, Stephs' prime saw him shooting around 11 3's a night at 40-44%. Tyler right now is at 10 a game at 39% (was over 40 until his recent slump). And its not just numbers, watching the games he takes the kind of 3's Steph and prime Dame used to take.

[Enso]

Jimmy ecstatic he got paid.

I'll be honest with the roster they have I don't see them being too good though. Call me crazy but I think they might not even make the playoffs lol

[stacksonstacks]

Call me crazy but as long as the league continues to trend towards spamming 3's, as much as I hate that style, I think Tyler can continue to rise and potentially be a top 10 guy, which is about the minimum you need for a star to lead you to a championship unless its a fluke year like the 04 Pistons. I think in any other era, as nice as Herro's development has been, he peaks as a top 25-30 guy who is occasionally an all-star and can either be a nice #2 or a great 6th man. But in this era where the 3-point shot is everything, as a guy who can hit them at volume, at a high percentage, either spotting up or off the dribble in just about any situation... he's basically looking like Steph Curry, minus some passing I guess.

I like Tyler Herro and I have believed in him for some time now but I can honest say.....

We are not winning a championship with Tyler Herro as our #1 option on offense. Let's pump the brakes and be realistic.

Definitely not any kind of prediction or expectation. Just think its a possibility, where before this season I would have thought the idea crazy.

And it would still have to be somewhat of an ensemble situation. Sort of like the Celtics last year, where Tatum/Brown and even Derrick White took turns being the most important guy on any given night.

Just saying though, in a league where the 3-point shot gets more valuable every season, unless rule changes are made to reel that back, it definitely favors Tyler. He is shooting like prime Steph. For comparison's sake, Stephs' prime saw him shooting around 11 3's a night at 40-44%. Tyler right now is at 10 a game at 39% (was over 40 until his recent slump). And its not just numbers, watching the games he takes the kind of 3's Steph and prime Dame used to take.

My view is that both Herro and Bam are 1.5s. Not 1s but better than 2s. With the new CBA restrictions, teams will need to be more egalitarian financially and, as a result, on the court. I think our core with the young players we have developing can absolutely win a title within the next 5 years. It'd look closer to a Spurs-like title toward the end of Duncan's career, rather than the heliocentric style of superstars and scrubs.

[Daffy]

Call me crazy but as long as the league continues to trend towards spamming 3's, as much as I hate that style, I think Tyler can continue to rise and potentially be a top 10 guy, which is about the minimum you need for a star to lead you to a championship unless its a fluke year like the 04 Pistons. I think in any other era, as nice as Herro's development has been, he peaks as a top 25-30 guy who is occasionally an all-star and can either be a nice #2 or a great 6th man. But in this era where the 3-point shot is everything, as a guy who can hit them at volume, at a high percentage, either spotting up or off the dribble in just about any situation... he's basically looking like Steph Curry, minus some passing I guess.

I like Tyler Herro and I have believed in him for some time now but I can honest say.....

We are not winning a championship with Tyler Herro as our #1 option on offense. Let's pump the brakes and be realistic.

Definitely not any kind of prediction or expectation. Just think its a possibility, where before this season I would have thought the idea crazy.

And it would still have to be somewhat of an ensemble situation. Sort of like the Celtics last year, where Tatum/Brown and even Derrick White took turns being the most important guy on any given night.

Just saying though, in a league where the 3-point shot gets more valuable every season, unless rule changes are made to reel that back, it definitely favors Tyler. He is shooting like prime Steph. For comparison's sake, Stephs' prime saw him shooting around 11 3's a night at 40-44%. Tyler right now is at 10 a game at 39% (was over 40 until his recent slump). And its not just numbers, watching the games he takes the kind of 3's Steph and prime Dame used to take.

My biggest issue with Tyler right now is he doesn't get to the line enough to help boost his numbers and get some easy points.

[marson]

It’ll be interesting to see how Draymond and Jimmy Butler mesh. For the second time in his career (the first being with Rondo), a teammate is stepping up to challenge Jimmy when he coasts in games.

Their personalities don’t exactly align, and there’s an old NBA theory that having two “knuckleheads” on the same team just doesn’t work.