2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[Lennyzinho]

Wiggins+powell+ware +maybe picks works salary wise first bron. I think the lakers consider it, much better fit for Luka/reeves.

Mitchell +herro+jaime+bron+bam

I'm not sure they'd win many games, but it would be fun.

MAYBE i send that package for Giannis. But there's absolutely no way I offer more than wiggins + rozier expiring if/when league gets their shtt together and some future 2nd round picks for Lebron. Dude is retiring or maybe has one more left in the tank if he comes here and loves it and wants to give it another shot. I'm not giving up future assets for a half season rental, as good as lebron still might be.

Ware to me is untouchable. 7ft walmart wemby, shooting 3's, incredibly important on the boards (going to make another post where I touch more on this), on the 2nd year of his rookie contract in current cba. players like that are worth gold. I'd only even consider sending out Ware if it meant getting giannis or ant.

If there was ever a trade suggestion that showed a person was not an actual fan of the Miami Heat. I mean wtf lmao

I wouldn't give up a single thing of value in a LeBron trade. Not even Wiggins, and I've been incredibly loud about thinking he needs to go.

My main concern is this:
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/cap/_/year/2026

Jovic money kicks in at 16M per annum. Herro's last year. Wigginss last year. Davion's last year. JJJ last year.
Norman Powell, Keshad, Simone Fontecchio free agents. Obviously only one of serious concern is Norman.

We COULD keep this team together, Jovic money (16M), along with raises for Herro (2M) and Bam (10M) would eat up all the money vacated by Rozier and Simone expiring. Cap will probably go up so could offer Powell 25-30M. But that's it. Jakunis and whoever we draft would be our 'reinforcements'.

I love this teams growth, but I don't see us winning anything. If Wiggins is the cost of getting us LeBron to increase our odds of making Finals and competing, so be it. It'd also clear out money. Wiggins is not a 30M player.

We are wasting the cheap years of Ware, JJJ, Pelle, Dru and wasting Bam's prime.

If Spo doesn't wanna play Jovic, trade him. I love depth, but not if it means playing JJJ 17 minutes and Ware 26 like we did against the Bucks, depth is just hurting us.

I'm gonna be the only person on this board to want to chase Sabonis, but that's what I'd like to see. We need size. He's a playmaker. He doesn't miss games (70/82/79 last 3). He gives a fck and plays hard. Sure his defense isn't great, but when you're surrounded by bad defensive players like derozan huerter monk, is that really fair? I think he'd fit in really well with our scheme and give us the depth we need at the 4-5 and I'd send Jovic and picks to the Kings, Wiggins to the Lakers and Lakers could send whatever assets we'd get for Wiggins, to the Kings.

We keep waiting and waiting for Luka or Lebron or Ant or Giannis. And it just never happens. We lucked out with Jimmy being a diva and starting trouble to come here (and then leaving). Sabonis is 29 (same timeline as Bam), has a heck of a bag, is mobile, shot 37,38,41% from 3 last three years, really good passer. Career 16/11/5 dude but his most recent 3 seasons hes much closer to a 18-19 pts, 12-13 boards, 7 assist type guy. I think he'd be great with Bam and Ware. We'd have the best front court depth in the league with great size between the 3 of them.

Idk if it would cost us Herro (replace him with Powell), but if we can somehow get him for what I mentioned above...
Wiggins, Jovic, 2 frps, 1 srp... i'd do it... but considering what Bane went for, Kings would probably demand Ware or Herro and it wouldn't happen. But that's what I'd go for. I'm ok being in the minority. A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush (those two birds being Ant and Giannis lmao).

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If you think about it from the perspective that you are a Wiggins fan, and your goal is to get him to the team with Luka and take Ware with you, that trade makes PERFECT sense.

I was thinking the same lol, tried to leave and take Powell/Ware and picks with him to stack his new team

[Tim_Hardawayy]

If you think about it from the perspective that you are a Wiggins fan, and your goal is to get him to the team with Luka and take Ware with you, that trade makes PERFECT sense.

I was thinking the same lol, tried to leave and take Powell/Ware and picks with him to stack his new team

It is kind of comical if you think about it, being a player fan of a guy who is effectively at this stage of his career a role player, you have to be really sneaky about it because you know no team is going to build around your guy (unless its Derrick White or something).

[3ammy3uck3ts]

MAYBE i send that package for Giannis. But there's absolutely no way I offer more than wiggins + rozier expiring if/when league gets their shtt together and some future 2nd round picks for Lebron. Dude is retiring or maybe has one more left in the tank if he comes here and loves it and wants to give it another shot. I'm not giving up future assets for a half season rental, as good as lebron still might be.

Ware to me is untouchable. 7ft walmart wemby, shooting 3's, incredibly important on the boards (going to make another post where I touch more on this), on the 2nd year of his rookie contract in current cba. players like that are worth gold. I'd only even consider sending out Ware if it meant getting giannis or ant.

If there was ever a trade suggestion that showed a person was not an actual fan of the Miami Heat. I mean wtf lmao

I wouldn't give up a single thing of value in a LeBron trade. Not even Wiggins, and I've been incredibly loud about thinking he needs to go.

My main concern is this:
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/cap/_/year/2026

Jovic money kicks in at 16M per annum. Herro's last year. Wigginss last year. Davion's last year. JJJ last year.
Norman Powell, Keshad, Simone Fontecchio free agents. Obviously only one of serious concern is Norman.

We COULD keep this team together, Jovic money (16M), along with raises for Herro (2M) and Bam (10M) would eat up all the money vacated by Rozier and Simone expiring. Cap will probably go up so could offer Powell 25-30M. But that's it. Jakunis and whoever we draft would be our 'reinforcements'.

I love this teams growth, but I don't see us winning anything. If Wiggins is the cost of getting us LeBron to increase our odds of making Finals and competing, so be it. It'd also clear out money. Wiggins is not a 30M player.

We are wasting the cheap years of Ware, JJJ, Pelle, Dru and wasting Bam's prime.

If Spo doesn't wanna play Jovic, trade him. I love depth, but not if it means playing JJJ 17 minutes and Ware 26 like we did against the Bucks, depth is just hurting us.

I'm gonna be the only person on this board to want to chase Sabonis, but that's what I'd like to see. We need size. He's a playmaker. He doesn't miss games (70/82/79 last 3). He gives a fck and plays hard. Sure his defense isn't great, but when you're surrounded by bad defensive players like derozan huerter monk, is that really fair? I think he'd fit in really well with our scheme and give us the depth we need at the 4-5 and I'd send Jovic and picks to the Kings, Wiggins to the Lakers and Lakers could send whatever assets we'd get for Wiggins, to the Kings.

We keep waiting and waiting for Luka or Lebron or Ant or Giannis. And it just never happens. We lucked out with Jimmy being a diva and starting trouble to come here (and then leaving). Sabonis is 29 (same timeline as Bam), has a heck of a bag, is mobile, shot 37,38,41% from 3 last three years, really good passer. Career 16/11/5 dude but his most recent 3 seasons hes much closer to a 18-19 pts, 12-13 boards, 7 assist type guy. I think he'd be great with Bam and Ware. We'd have the best front court depth in the league with great size between the 3 of them.

Idk if it would cost us Herro (replace him with Powell), but if we can somehow get him for what I mentioned above...
Wiggins, Jovic, 2 frps, 1 srp... i'd do it... but considering what Bane went for, Kings would probably demand Ware or Herro and it wouldn't happen. But that's what I'd go for. I'm ok being in the minority. A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush (those two birds being Ant and Giannis lmao).

That’s just a tough situation though. Imagine you trade that for Sabonis and then this summer Giannis asks out, love Miami, and we just don’t have the assets to get him any more.

I think if you’re going to load assets like that it needs to be a sure fire thing and Sabonis has a lot of question marks imo. If Ware was still doing his nonchalant early season stuff then maybe you entertain it a little more

[Shewasfly]

If you think about it from the perspective that you are a Wiggins fan, and your goal is to get him to the team with Luka and take Ware with you, that trade makes PERFECT sense.

Not just Ware but Powell too

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If you think about it from the perspective that you are a Wiggins fan, and your goal is to get him to the team with Luka and take Ware with you, that trade makes PERFECT sense.

I was thinking the same lol, tried to leave and take Powell/Ware and picks with him to stack his new team

It is kind of comical if you think about it, being a player fan of a guy who is effectively at this stage of his career a role player, you have to be really sneaky about it because you know no team is going to build around your guy (unless its Derrick White or something).

I actually like Wiggins a lot more this year than I did last. It feels like he hasn’t been ball dominant and forcing things all game like he was last year so I’ve warmed up to him.

A LeBron trade at this stage if you’re moving Wiggins is probably Wiggins; expiring money or Jovic, and MAYBE KJ or a 1st and I say maybe because LeBron has a NTC and if he were to leave it’d be exactly where he wanted to go

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I was thinking the same lol, tried to leave and take Powell/Ware and picks with him to stack his new team

It is kind of comical if you think about it, being a player fan of a guy who is effectively at this stage of his career a role player, you have to be really sneaky about it because you know no team is going to build around your guy (unless its Derrick White or something).

I actually like Wiggins a lot more this year than I did last. It feels like he hasn’t been ball dominant and forcing things all game like he was last year so I’ve warmed up to him.

A LeBron trade at this stage if you’re moving Wiggins is probably Wiggins; expiring money or Jovic, and MAYBE KJ or a 1st and I say maybe because LeBron has a NTC and if he were to leave it’d be exactly where he wanted to go

I do too, I never really disliked Wiggins so much as how he was used, because I never got the idea he was forcing things, it was clear Spo just didn't know how to use those pieces last season. With the Jimmy stuff its honestly a miracle that squad even made the playoffs.

He's a glue guy, and definitely a Heat style player.

If you think about it from the perspective that you are a Wiggins fan, and your goal is to get him to the team with Luka and take Ware with you, that trade makes PERFECT sense.

Not just Ware but Powell too

I totally missed the Powell too part, that's insane

[Lennyzinho]

If there was ever a trade suggestion that showed a person was not an actual fan of the Miami Heat. I mean wtf lmao

I wouldn't give up a single thing of value in a LeBron trade. Not even Wiggins, and I've been incredibly loud about thinking he needs to go.

My main concern is this:
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/cap/_/year/2026

Jovic money kicks in at 16M per annum. Herro's last year. Wigginss last year. Davion's last year. JJJ last year.
Norman Powell, Keshad, Simone Fontecchio free agents. Obviously only one of serious concern is Norman.

We COULD keep this team together, Jovic money (16M), along with raises for Herro (2M) and Bam (10M) would eat up all the money vacated by Rozier and Simone expiring. Cap will probably go up so could offer Powell 25-30M. But that's it. Jakunis and whoever we draft would be our 'reinforcements'.

I love this teams growth, but I don't see us winning anything. If Wiggins is the cost of getting us LeBron to increase our odds of making Finals and competing, so be it. It'd also clear out money. Wiggins is not a 30M player.

We are wasting the cheap years of Ware, JJJ, Pelle, Dru and wasting Bam's prime.

If Spo doesn't wanna play Jovic, trade him. I love depth, but not if it means playing JJJ 17 minutes and Ware 26 like we did against the Bucks, depth is just hurting us.

I'm gonna be the only person on this board to want to chase Sabonis, but that's what I'd like to see. We need size. He's a playmaker. He doesn't miss games (70/82/79 last 3). He gives a fck and plays hard. Sure his defense isn't great, but when you're surrounded by bad defensive players like derozan huerter monk, is that really fair? I think he'd fit in really well with our scheme and give us the depth we need at the 4-5 and I'd send Jovic and picks to the Kings, Wiggins to the Lakers and Lakers could send whatever assets we'd get for Wiggins, to the Kings.

We keep waiting and waiting for Luka or Lebron or Ant or Giannis. And it just never happens. We lucked out with Jimmy being a diva and starting trouble to come here (and then leaving). Sabonis is 29 (same timeline as Bam), has a heck of a bag, is mobile, shot 37,38,41% from 3 last three years, really good passer. Career 16/11/5 dude but his most recent 3 seasons hes much closer to a 18-19 pts, 12-13 boards, 7 assist type guy. I think he'd be great with Bam and Ware. We'd have the best front court depth in the league with great size between the 3 of them.

Idk if it would cost us Herro (replace him with Powell), but if we can somehow get him for what I mentioned above...
Wiggins, Jovic, 2 frps, 1 srp... i'd do it... but considering what Bane went for, Kings would probably demand Ware or Herro and it wouldn't happen. But that's what I'd go for. I'm ok being in the minority. A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush (those two birds being Ant and Giannis lmao).

That’s just a tough situation though. Imagine you trade that for Sabonis and then this summer Giannis asks out, love Miami, and we just don’t have the assets to get him any more.

I think if you’re going to load assets like that it needs to be a sure fire thing and Sabonis has a lot of question marks imo. If Ware was still doing his nonchalant early season stuff then maybe you entertain it a little more

Im fine playing out the entire season. Seeing what happens. And then go after giannis and sabonis as a backup option. Part of me prefers sabonis over AD unless kings want a gobert or bane type haul then forget it. If its a durant or Jimmy butler type trade, I do it and worry about giannis when the time comes and use sabonis as the main piece of the deal to another team if need be. I dont see giannis leaving. But who knows.

[MadD23]

3) both said the hawks are better without trae. (shocking for some here, i know...)

lol I could have told you this. The thing that infuriates me about the Herro hate here isn't that people think we can do better, we absolutely can, or that he has flaws, he totally does. Its the way people want to make lateral moves or even arguably downgrades for players with similar flaws, all because their games are flashier (Ja/Trae/Lamelo). There might be one other factor to it as well but I won't go there.

the rest was MVP talk for the most part. van gundy also attributed his wealth and nice house to wade lmao. and then said taking stanley johnson over devin booker and donovan mitchell is why he's on podcasts and not coaching.

That's pretty funny. Stan's a good guy, to be perfectly honest I think he deserved more of a chance to keep coaching Wade, but the Shaq/Zo lineups were not it, even with the NBA shifting back to 2 bigs more recently I still wouldn't play those two together.

The good thing is that we only have a few Herro haters in here and we can count them with one hand and some more on twitter. They continue to push their agenda but reality is, that on that Arena, the fans in Miami don't share that negative sentiment.

The pace crap they are pushing now have nothing to do with any specific player, it had more to do with the fact most of our players were missing shots and couldn't get on any type of rhythm offensively. Also the Bucks were packing the paint and we couldn't hit our 3's, the games tend to slow down depending on many type of circumstances. But no, let's just blame the player that carried us during those struggles to help us win both of those games. Dumb ass narrative if you ask me. Instead of enjoying our 6 games winning streak, we have to waste time and energy debunking the nonsense.

[SA37]

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Insanely elite scoring we’ve gotten from Norman this year, we need to keep that going

More Norman and less of these sissy floaters from Herro.

[SA37]

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At this point for me, probably a no even for Terrys salary and a 2nd or something. Not sure he can keep up in this pace and I know for sure the ball is going to stick with him. If it were to happen I’d trust Spo to make it work but I don’t like it

DeRozan is such a skilled offensive player. I'd love to see him land in Miami because as the season wears on, I think Miami's lack of bench scoring could potentially become an issue and DeRozan is as good as it gets from a scoring standpoint. Would he be willing to come off the bench?

[SA37]

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Send him to Sacramento with Rozier and bring in DeRozan and Keegan Murray.

Something like:

Miami gets DeRozan and Murray

Sacramento gets Rozier, Jovic, and Kuminga

Warriors get Wiggins

[inhabitMiami]

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Insanely elite scoring we’ve gotten from Norman this year, we need to keep that going

More Norman and less of these sissy floaters from Herro.

Those "sissy floaters" have him at a 72.6%TS lmao

[twix2500]

It’s been interesting watching JJJ grow as a go too player. It’s gonna be kind of sad to see that’s gonna to be taken away from him.

[Voltron914]

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if spo is hellbent on bringing Ware off the bench then Jovic needs to start with bam if we sitting davion for his playmaking and size. something will click with the pace for him at least plus he can rack up assists posting up and kicking out to everybody

[DayofMourning]

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Translation-I play like a dummy every year and get taken out of the lineup. I will have a good couple games again at some point.

[Bishop45]

Competent Jovic helped us to be both positionless and fast off the bench, hopefully he gets it together here or somewhere else

[Crazy-Canuck]

Wiggins+powell+ware +maybe picks works salary wise first bron. I think the lakers consider it, much better fit for Luka/reeves.

Mitchell +herro+jaime+bron+bam

I'm not sure they'd win many games, but it would be fun.

MAYBE i send that package for Giannis. But there's absolutely no way I offer more than wiggins + rozier expiring if/when league gets their shtt together and some future 2nd round picks for Lebron. Dude is retiring or maybe has one more left in the tank if he comes here and loves it and wants to give it another shot. I'm not giving up future assets for a half season rental, as good as lebron still might be.

Ware to me is untouchable. 7ft walmart wemby, shooting 3's, incredibly important on the boards (going to make another post where I touch more on this), on the 2nd year of his rookie contract in current cba. players like that are worth gold. I'd only even consider sending out Ware if it meant getting giannis or ant.

Yeah that’s a massive overpay for LeBron who might have 1 season left after this one lol. That’s a giannis package, Herro/Ware salary filler any of the other young guys and picks

You wanted LeBron. No other way to make the salaries work.

The guy makes over 50M and no one wants to trade herro or bam.

Same with giannis.

Can't trade jovic.
Cant trade rozier.

How else do you build up 55M in filler with wiggins without powell? People love to jump to conclusions.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

MAYBE i send that package for Giannis. But there's absolutely no way I offer more than wiggins + rozier expiring if/when league gets their shtt together and some future 2nd round picks for Lebron. Dude is retiring or maybe has one more left in the tank if he comes here and loves it and wants to give it another shot. I'm not giving up future assets for a half season rental, as good as lebron still might be.

Ware to me is untouchable. 7ft walmart wemby, shooting 3's, incredibly important on the boards (going to make another post where I touch more on this), on the 2nd year of his rookie contract in current cba. players like that are worth gold. I'd only even consider sending out Ware if it meant getting giannis or ant.

Yeah that’s a massive overpay for LeBron who might have 1 season left after this one lol. That’s a giannis package, Herro/Ware salary filler any of the other young guys and picks

You wanted LeBron. No other way to make the salaries work.

The guy makes over 50M and no one wants to trade herro or bam.

Same with giannis.

Can't trade jovic.
Cant trade rozier.

How else do you build up 55M in filler with wiggins without powell? People love to jump to conclusions.

We’re getting it done when that terry money gets freed up

[Crazy-Canuck]

Yeah that’s a massive overpay for LeBron who might have 1 season left after this one lol. That’s a giannis package, Herro/Ware salary filler any of the other young guys and picks

You wanted LeBron. No other way to make the salaries work.

The guy makes over 50M and no one wants to trade herro or bam.

Same with giannis.

Can't trade jovic.
Cant trade rozier.

How else do you build up 55M in filler with wiggins without powell? People love to jump to conclusions.

We’re getting it done when that terry money gets freed up

Which might not happen before the trade deadline. And lebron is still lebron, so he's not going to go out in a salary dump. There's going to be some assets involved.

Again, why jump down my throat and make assumptions. The math is clear, the proposed package is one of the only ways to make the numbers work with the lakers as an apron team. Dollar for dollar.