2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0

[VaDe255]

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“Can’t shoot”

Look how is ignoring context now and only looking at a number

Shooting 35% when you're left open by the defense half the time is completely different than hitting 35% on off the dribble pull-ups or contested looks.

That percentage on the quality of shots Bam is getting is below league average. Defenses will happily let the 6'9 freak athlete take practice jumpers all day if it means he isn't rolling to the rim

Yes, he "can shoot" them, but no defense really cares if he does, because it's a good defensive possession for them if he does

Haha you all have been bitching for years for Bam to start shooting 3s, now that he is it’s just not good enough for Mr. Spreadsheet. He’s shooting almost 38% from 3 on wide open looks, what’s the acceptable percentage for someone of your stature? He’s shooting the same percentage as towns on wide open looks and Towns is only taking open/Wide open looks.

Roll to the rim and receive the ball from who lol? Not a damn soul on this roster can throw a Simone lob/dump off outside of occasionally Pelle and Davion (hopefully Kas can help here). Bams been doing a good job of mixing it up here recently and the elite performances are piling up. He’s getting to the rim mainly off self creation and taking open 3s and knocking them down. Hes also doing a good job recently of attacking the hard close outs on his 3s. Teams are adjusting and stepping out, they’re not just leaving him at the 3 point line and ignoring them like you all are trying to make it seem.

Also are we sure he’s still a freak athlete? He clearly doesn’t get up like he used to but maybe it just seems that way from the lack of playmaking and the fact that everyone is too worried about their own PPG to throw a simple lob pass

Saying KAT "only takes open looks" is a bit wild. KAT takes deep pull-ups and movement 3s. He creates gravity because he can actually shoot them at a percentage where it starts to matter. Bam shoots because the defense creates the opening by sagging off him, there is a massive difference in how teams and players defend and react to them

I haven't been "bitching for years" for him to just chuck more 3s. I've been saying he can't attack the rim or punish mismatches, his rim frequency drops every single year and this season is just more of the same

You ask who is going to pass to him? He is supposed to be a max player offensive hub. If he can't generate rim pressure without a perfect lob, he is part of that "not enough creation problem"

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Look how is ignoring context now and only looking at a number

Shooting 35% when you're left open by the defense half the time is completely different than hitting 35% on off the dribble pull-ups or contested looks.

That percentage on the quality of shots Bam is getting is below league average. Defenses will happily let the 6'9 freak athlete take practice jumpers all day if it means he isn't rolling to the rim

Yes, he "can shoot" them, but no defense really cares if he does, because it's a good defensive possession for them if he does

Haha you all have been bitching for years for Bam to start shooting 3s, now that he is it’s just not good enough for Mr. Spreadsheet. He’s shooting almost 38% from 3 on wide open looks, what’s the acceptable percentage for someone of your stature? He’s shooting the same percentage as towns on wide open looks and Towns is only taking open/Wide open looks.

Roll to the rim and receive the ball from who lol? Not a damn soul on this roster can throw a Simone lob/dump off outside of occasionally Pelle and Davion (hopefully Kas can help here). Bams been doing a good job of mixing it up here recently and the elite performances are piling up. He’s getting to the rim mainly off self creation and taking open 3s and knocking them down. Hes also doing a good job recently of attacking the hard close outs on his 3s. Teams are adjusting and stepping out, they’re not just leaving him at the 3 point line and ignoring them like you all are trying to make it seem.

Also are we sure he’s still a freak athlete? He clearly doesn’t get up like he used to but maybe it just seems that way from the lack of playmaking and the fact that everyone is too worried about their own PPG to throw a simple lob pass

Saying KAT "only takes open looks" is a bit wild. KAT takes deep pull-ups and movement 3s. He creates gravity because he can actually shoot them at a percentage where it starts to matter. Bam shoots because the defense creates the opening by sagging off him, there is a massive difference in how teams and players defend and react to them

I haven't been "bitching for years" for him to just chuck more 3s. I've been saying he can't attack the rim or punish mismatches, his rim frequency drops every single year and this season is just more of the same

You ask who is going to pass to him? He is supposed to be a max player offensive hub. If he can't generate rim pressure without a perfect lob, he is part of that "not enough creation problem"

Towns takes 4.6 3s a game, 4.3 of them are categorized as open/wide open.

Our schematics change year after year too, this offense calls for him to space and that’s what he’s doing. Not to mention the playmaking dropping year after year.

He’s not being used as a max player offensive hub, you think we’re constantly running plays for him? Maybe more here recently I supposed and it’s actually paying off if so but this is an equal opportunity offense for the most part.

Playmaking is one of the most important things to keep a big consistently engaged and involved within the flow of the offense, that’s not even debatable.

I have some of the same complaints as you in terms of shot diet (idk why the staff and Bam hasn’t drilled this into him yet but it’s a pretty simple fix) but he’s doing a good job mixing it up right now on tons of self creation outside of catch and shoot 3s. I’d advise you to watch the 15 minute video I posted yesterday that gives you numbers but also goes into details on actual basketball to explain things.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Teams are leaving bam wide open...alot, but if he continues hitting then at a 37% clip, that's more than enough to play off of giannis. I mean he's shooting better than tyler on wide open 3s (small sample size). Hes a stationary spot up shooter, which is fine.

Get a couple (3 is better) of 40% volume shooters with those 2, then you are golden. Bam shoots, he can also swing, he can attack closeouts outs. If he misses, that leaves the big out of rebounding position. Then you have guys who can attack the glass for another possession..etc..etc..

Not worried about a bam/giannis pairing at all. The biggest issue is if you can find 3 40% volume shooters to play with them.

[VaDe255]

Haha you all have been bitching for years for Bam to start shooting 3s, now that he is it’s just not good enough for Mr. Spreadsheet. He’s shooting almost 38% from 3 on wide open looks, what’s the acceptable percentage for someone of your stature? He’s shooting the same percentage as towns on wide open looks and Towns is only taking open/Wide open looks.

Roll to the rim and receive the ball from who lol? Not a damn soul on this roster can throw a Simone lob/dump off outside of occasionally Pelle and Davion (hopefully Kas can help here). Bams been doing a good job of mixing it up here recently and the elite performances are piling up. He’s getting to the rim mainly off self creation and taking open 3s and knocking them down. Hes also doing a good job recently of attacking the hard close outs on his 3s. Teams are adjusting and stepping out, they’re not just leaving him at the 3 point line and ignoring them like you all are trying to make it seem.

Also are we sure he’s still a freak athlete? He clearly doesn’t get up like he used to but maybe it just seems that way from the lack of playmaking and the fact that everyone is too worried about their own PPG to throw a simple lob pass

Saying KAT "only takes open looks" is a bit wild. KAT takes deep pull-ups and movement 3s. He creates gravity because he can actually shoot them at a percentage where it starts to matter. Bam shoots because the defense creates the opening by sagging off him, there is a massive difference in how teams and players defend and react to them

I haven't been "bitching for years" for him to just chuck more 3s. I've been saying he can't attack the rim or punish mismatches, his rim frequency drops every single year and this season is just more of the same

You ask who is going to pass to him? He is supposed to be a max player offensive hub. If he can't generate rim pressure without a perfect lob, he is part of that "not enough creation problem"

Towns takes 4.6 3s a game, 4.3 of them are categorized as open/wide open.

Our schematics change year after year too, this offense calls for him to space and that’s what he’s doing. Not to mention the playmaking dropping year after year.

He’s not being used as a max player offensive hub, you think we’re constantly running plays for him? Maybe more here recently I supposed and it’s actually paying off if so but this is an equal opportunity offense for the most part.

Playmaking is one of the most important things to keep a big consistently engaged and involved within the flow of the offense, that’s not even debatable.

I have some of the same complaints as you in terms of shot diet (idk why the staff and Bam hasn’t drilled this into him yet but it’s a pretty simple fix) but he’s doing a good job mixing it up right now on tons of self creation outside of catch and shoot 3s. I’d advise you to watch the 15 minute video I posted yesterday that gives you numbers but also goes into details on actual basketball to explain things.

Most of 3s in the NBA are categorized as open, because "open" just means 4-6ft space, so could literally mean nothing, could just be KAT taking a deep 3 where the defender is far enough away or KAT taking a step back 3 where he created space, although I would not say either of them are great 3p shot creators for themselves KAT is the far better 3p shooter (and offensive player) it ain't close

Just looking at some stats from this year to give a better picture of why:

< 5 ft 300 FGA KAT, 141 FGA Bam
> 24 ft 166 FGA KAT, 76 FGA Bam

KAT is taking way more shots at the rim and he is taking way more shots which are deep 3s

I'm not trying to trash Bam, just trying to be realistic about him and part of what is happening this year is the offensive system, the other part is clearly Bam himself, his 3p shooting is alright but it doesn't really change all that much and it's no surprise he's still rated barely above neutral on the offensive end

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Saying KAT "only takes open looks" is a bit wild. KAT takes deep pull-ups and movement 3s. He creates gravity because he can actually shoot them at a percentage where it starts to matter. Bam shoots because the defense creates the opening by sagging off him, there is a massive difference in how teams and players defend and react to them

I haven't been "bitching for years" for him to just chuck more 3s. I've been saying he can't attack the rim or punish mismatches, his rim frequency drops every single year and this season is just more of the same

You ask who is going to pass to him? He is supposed to be a max player offensive hub. If he can't generate rim pressure without a perfect lob, he is part of that "not enough creation problem"

Towns takes 4.6 3s a game, 4.3 of them are categorized as open/wide open.

Our schematics change year after year too, this offense calls for him to space and that’s what he’s doing. Not to mention the playmaking dropping year after year.

He’s not being used as a max player offensive hub, you think we’re constantly running plays for him? Maybe more here recently I supposed and it’s actually paying off if so but this is an equal opportunity offense for the most part.

Playmaking is one of the most important things to keep a big consistently engaged and involved within the flow of the offense, that’s not even debatable.

I have some of the same complaints as you in terms of shot diet (idk why the staff and Bam hasn’t drilled this into him yet but it’s a pretty simple fix) but he’s doing a good job mixing it up right now on tons of self creation outside of catch and shoot 3s. I’d advise you to watch the 15 minute video I posted yesterday that gives you numbers but also goes into details on actual basketball to explain things.

Most of 3s in the NBA are categorized as open, because "open" just means 4-6ft space, so literally means nothing, could just be KAT taking a deep 3 where the defender is far enough away or KAT taking a step back 3 where he created space, although I would not say either of them are great 3p shot creators for themselves KAT is the far better 3p shooter (and offensive player) it ain't close

Just looking at some stats from this year to give a better picture of why:

< 5 ft 300 FGA KAT, 141 FGA Bam
> 24 ft 166 FGA KAT, 76 FGA Bam

KAT is taking way more shots at the rim and he is taking way more shots which are deep 3s

I'm not trying to trash Bam, just trying to be realistic about him and part of what is happening this year is the offensive system, the other part is clearly Bam himself, his 3p shooting is alright but it doesn't really change all that much and it's no surprise he's still rated barely above neutral on the offensive end

Towns is a better offensive player and he’s arguably the best shooting big ever or up there but he also has a Brunson to take majority of the defensive pressure and playmake for him. I’m not arguing Bams a better shooter but their wide open rate is nearly identical and I can promise you towns isn’t breaking people for the dribble to get open from 3 lol. 85% of towns 3s are coming from 25-29 feet while only 45% of Bams are (he’s actually shooting better from this distance than he is 20-24).

It’s a work in progress, the first step was taking them, the next was making them at a respectable clip, then it was to increase volume (the stage were in now) the next will be to maintain volume and increase efficiency. If you’re open shoot and knock it down 3 > 2 especially the way the nba is today. It was crucial that he added a 3 to decrease holes on the offense and probably prolong his career.

Playing through injury was the worst thing he could’ve done for his numbers but it is what it is.

I want 9-10 shots at the rim, 3-4 mid range, and 5 3s a night. That seems like a good balance to me but the rim shots aren’t happening until we get some playmaking to help free him up and find him in better spots. Thats not an excuse that’s just basketball.

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Id definitely take gafford.

First time ive seen herros name. 0 to 50% seems like quite a jump?

[greg4012]

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“Can’t shoot”

Look how is ignoring context now and only looking at a number

Shooting 35% when you're left open by the defense half the time is completely different than hitting 35% on off the dribble pull-ups or contested looks.

That percentage on the quality of shots Bam is getting is below league average. Defenses will happily let the 6'9 freak athlete take practice jumpers all day if it means he isn't rolling to the rim

Yes, he "can shoot" them, but no defense really cares if he does, because it's a good defensive possession for them if he does

The jury’s still out until Bam proves he can be a reliable shooter once the playoffs start and teams actually game-plan for it. I think he can get to around 35% on solid volume this year, but it’s hard to forget how Mobley and Allen completely ignored and disrespected him defensively in that series.

This was just game 1, I'm sure he can shoot better this year with these wide open looks.

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If teams gameplan for Bam shooting the 3 then the war is won. Spacing unlocked.

[greg4012]

Haha you all have been bitching for years for Bam to start shooting 3s, now that he is it’s just not good enough for Mr. Spreadsheet. He’s shooting almost 38% from 3 on wide open looks, what’s the acceptable percentage for someone of your stature? He’s shooting the same percentage as towns on wide open looks and Towns is only taking open/Wide open looks.

Roll to the rim and receive the ball from who lol? Not a damn soul on this roster can throw a Simone lob/dump off outside of occasionally Pelle and Davion (hopefully Kas can help here). Bams been doing a good job of mixing it up here recently and the elite performances are piling up. He’s getting to the rim mainly off self creation and taking open 3s and knocking them down. Hes also doing a good job recently of attacking the hard close outs on his 3s. Teams are adjusting and stepping out, they’re not just leaving him at the 3 point line and ignoring them like you all are trying to make it seem.

Also are we sure he’s still a freak athlete? He clearly doesn’t get up like he used to but maybe it just seems that way from the lack of playmaking and the fact that everyone is too worried about their own PPG to throw a simple lob pass

Saying KAT "only takes open looks" is a bit wild. KAT takes deep pull-ups and movement 3s. He creates gravity because he can actually shoot them at a percentage where it starts to matter. Bam shoots because the defense creates the opening by sagging off him, there is a massive difference in how teams and players defend and react to them

I haven't been "bitching for years" for him to just chuck more 3s. I've been saying he can't attack the rim or punish mismatches, his rim frequency drops every single year and this season is just more of the same

You ask who is going to pass to him? He is supposed to be a max player offensive hub. If he can't generate rim pressure without a perfect lob, he is part of that "not enough creation problem"

Towns takes 4.6 3s a game, 4.3 of them are categorized as open/wide open.

Our schematics change year after year too, this offense calls for him to space and that’s what he’s doing. Not to mention the playmaking dropping year after year.

He’s not being used as a max player offensive hub, you think we’re constantly running plays for him? Maybe more here recently I supposed and it’s actually paying off if so but this is an equal opportunity offense for the most part.

Playmaking is one of the most important things to keep a big consistently engaged and involved within the flow of the offense, that’s not even debatable.

I have some of the same complaints as you in terms of shot diet (idk why the staff and Bam hasn’t drilled this into him yet but it’s a pretty simple fix) but he’s doing a good job mixing it up right now on tons of self creation outside of catch and shoot 3s. I’d advise you to watch the 15 minute video I posted yesterday that gives you numbers but also goes into details on actual basketball to explain things.

Stats back your assertion this season. Maybe Vane is using eye test to decipher the impact of context rather than just deferring blindly to the stats. Wouldn't that be something?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Saying KAT "only takes open looks" is a bit wild. KAT takes deep pull-ups and movement 3s. He creates gravity because he can actually shoot them at a percentage where it starts to matter. Bam shoots because the defense creates the opening by sagging off him, there is a massive difference in how teams and players defend and react to them

I haven't been "bitching for years" for him to just chuck more 3s. I've been saying he can't attack the rim or punish mismatches, his rim frequency drops every single year and this season is just more of the same

You ask who is going to pass to him? He is supposed to be a max player offensive hub. If he can't generate rim pressure without a perfect lob, he is part of that "not enough creation problem"

Towns takes 4.6 3s a game, 4.3 of them are categorized as open/wide open.

Our schematics change year after year too, this offense calls for him to space and that’s what he’s doing. Not to mention the playmaking dropping year after year.

He’s not being used as a max player offensive hub, you think we’re constantly running plays for him? Maybe more here recently I supposed and it’s actually paying off if so but this is an equal opportunity offense for the most part.

Playmaking is one of the most important things to keep a big consistently engaged and involved within the flow of the offense, that’s not even debatable.

I have some of the same complaints as you in terms of shot diet (idk why the staff and Bam hasn’t drilled this into him yet but it’s a pretty simple fix) but he’s doing a good job mixing it up right now on tons of self creation outside of catch and shoot 3s. I’d advise you to watch the 15 minute video I posted yesterday that gives you numbers but also goes into details on actual basketball to explain things.

Stats back your assertion this season. Maybe Vane is using eye test to decipher the impact of context rather than just deferring blindly to the stats. Wouldn't that be something?

I mean he will just never please some apparently, this one in particular because he didn’t become a top 5 player in the league I believe was the conclusion the other day.

Was he just supposed to come out the gate making 50% of his 3s on 6 attempts a night or what? He has clearly evolved as a player this year and I’ll maintain that playing through injury earlier was the worst thing he could’ve done for his public perception from the fanbase as that stretch will just outweigh everything else he’s done this season and will do this season. Kind of hard to be efficient when your back and foot are toast, Norm is going through the same thing right now, maybe people will agree with that since and acknowledge it since it’s not Bam.

Honestly it seems an even bigger breakthrough could be coming but I’m not so sure we’ll make it a priority as we’ve never really prioritized him offensively and I’m sure we’ll have guys returning from injury soon to eat up shots and usage (or hopefully a big trade) but when he starts putting together games where he’s both knocking down the 3 and also in a good rhythm near the rim we could see some monster games. OKC the 3 was on fire but struggled inside/couldn’t get a call, blazers game was killing inside but struggled from 3, last night struggled somewhat inside the arc although a few of his shot attempts were tip ins and those could go either way.

We’ll see how to all plays out but he’s definitely ready to compliment a star and has evolved his game into being able to do whatever is asked of him

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[greg4012]

Towns takes 4.6 3s a game, 4.3 of them are categorized as open/wide open.

Our schematics change year after year too, this offense calls for him to space and that’s what he’s doing. Not to mention the playmaking dropping year after year.

He’s not being used as a max player offensive hub, you think we’re constantly running plays for him? Maybe more here recently I supposed and it’s actually paying off if so but this is an equal opportunity offense for the most part.

Playmaking is one of the most important things to keep a big consistently engaged and involved within the flow of the offense, that’s not even debatable.

I have some of the same complaints as you in terms of shot diet (idk why the staff and Bam hasn’t drilled this into him yet but it’s a pretty simple fix) but he’s doing a good job mixing it up right now on tons of self creation outside of catch and shoot 3s. I’d advise you to watch the 15 minute video I posted yesterday that gives you numbers but also goes into details on actual basketball to explain things.

Stats back your assertion this season. Maybe Vane is using eye test to decipher the impact of context rather than just deferring blindly to the stats. Wouldn't that be something?

I mean he will just never please some apparently, this one in particular because he didn’t become a top 5 player in the league I believe was the conclusion the other day.

Was he just supposed to come out the gate making 50% of his 3s on 6 attempts a night or what? He has clearly evolved as a player this year and I’ll maintain that playing through injury earlier was the worst thing he could’ve done for his public perception from the fanbase as that stretch will just outweigh everything else he’s done this season and will do this season. Kind of hard to be efficient when your back and foot are toast, Norm is going through the same thing right now, maybe people will agree with that since and acknowledge it since it’s not Bam.

Honestly it seems an even bigger breakthrough could be coming but I’m not so sure we’ll make it a priority as we’ve never really prioritized him offensively and I’m sure we’ll have guys returning from injury soon to eat up shots and usage (or hopefully a big trade) but when he starts putting together games where he’s both knocking down the 3 and also in a good rhythm near the rim we could see some monster games. OKC the 3 was on fire but struggled inside/couldn’t get a call, blazers game was killing inside but struggled from 3, last night struggled somewhat inside the arc although a few of his shot attempts were tip ins and those could go either way.

We’ll see how to all plays out but he’s definitely ready to compliment a star and has evolved his game into being able to do whatever is asked of him

2 seasons in a row where offensive changes have arguably resulted in Bam having to adjust and change his game on that end as much or more than anyone else on the team. Trending for 2 seasons in a row where that resulted in inconsistent start with adjustment period and him playing better offensively as the season progresses. Wild how many don't want to recognize that and just want to cling and point to confirmation bias of their prior assertions.

Playing through injury very obviously affected Bam this season. But, I know many will just see that as part of the big bad conspiracy to prop up Bam.

Despite the ugly stretch playing through injury this season, since January 2025 Bam is shooting 37.3% from 3 on 3.6 3PA per game. That's over an 86 game span.

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Id definitely take gafford.

First time ive seen herros name. 0 to 50% seems like quite a jump?

The odds mean nothing. It had us at 90% for Ja 1 night now he’s not even listed as a 50/50 to be traded in general lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Stats back your assertion this season. Maybe Vane is using eye test to decipher the impact of context rather than just deferring blindly to the stats. Wouldn't that be something?

I mean he will just never please some apparently, this one in particular because he didn’t become a top 5 player in the league I believe was the conclusion the other day.

Was he just supposed to come out the gate making 50% of his 3s on 6 attempts a night or what? He has clearly evolved as a player this year and I’ll maintain that playing through injury earlier was the worst thing he could’ve done for his public perception from the fanbase as that stretch will just outweigh everything else he’s done this season and will do this season. Kind of hard to be efficient when your back and foot are toast, Norm is going through the same thing right now, maybe people will agree with that since and acknowledge it since it’s not Bam.

Honestly it seems an even bigger breakthrough could be coming but I’m not so sure we’ll make it a priority as we’ve never really prioritized him offensively and I’m sure we’ll have guys returning from injury soon to eat up shots and usage (or hopefully a big trade) but when he starts putting together games where he’s both knocking down the 3 and also in a good rhythm near the rim we could see some monster games. OKC the 3 was on fire but struggled inside/couldn’t get a call, blazers game was killing inside but struggled from 3, last night struggled somewhat inside the arc although a few of his shot attempts were tip ins and those could go either way.

We’ll see how to all plays out but he’s definitely ready to compliment a star and has evolved his game into being able to do whatever is asked of him

2 seasons in a row where offensive changes have arguably resulted in Bam having to adjust and change his game on that end as much or more than anyone else on the team. Trending for 2 seasons in a row where that resulted in inconsistent start with adjustment period and him playing better offensively as the season progresses. Wild how many don't want to recognize that and just want to cling and point to confirmation bias of their prior assertions.

Playing through injury very obviously affected Bam this season. But, I know many will just see that as part of the big bad conspiracy to prop up Bam.

Despite the ugly stretch playing through injury this season, since January 2025 Bam is shooting 37.3% from 3 on 3.6 3PA per game. That's over an 86 game span.

Don’t possibly see how that could be viewed as a negative but here we are lol

[Dmcdani6]

Id like Kuminga in an AG type of role. Not really featured- rebound, defend, cut.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Lennyzinho]

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Id definitely take gafford.

First time ive seen herros name. 0 to 50% seems like quite a jump?

The odds mean nothing. It had us at 90% for Ja 1 night now he’s not even listed as a 50/50 to be traded in general lol

Lmao fr. Its click bait.
Do people think coaches and GMs start their day by filling out surveys about trades or something?
It's all complete non sense. Or maybe betting apps make this stuff up and have bots pushing stuff so people lose money. All in all it's completely bogus

[Crazy-Canuck]

Id like Kuminga in an AG type of role. Not really featured- rebound, defend, cut.

They've been wanting him to play that role for 4 years. And still waiting.

[twix2500]

I will say probably about Wednesday or Friday trade rumors will start heating up

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