Andrew Bynum

Dmcdani6 · Post #1281 » by **Dmcdani6** » Sun Feb 2, 2014 5:52 am

Well, sounds like Cleveland is a pretty bad franchise. Out of curiousity, I wonder if his attitude was ALL him or him possibly just trying to leave a poorly ran franchise?

Probably all him huh?

BIRDMAN BIRDMAN · Post #1282 » by **BIRDMAN BIRDMAN** » Sun Feb 2, 2014 7:22 am

wAtChOut218 wrote:Done deal.

See ya soon

Watchout </3

RJM · Post #1283 » by **RJM** » Sun Feb 2, 2014 3:52 pm

BIRDMAN BIRDMAN wrote:
wAtChOut218 wrote:Done deal.

See ya soon

Watchout </3

Now THIS was a declaration that failed.

BIRDMAN BIRDMAN · Post #1284 » by **BIRDMAN BIRDMAN** » Sun Feb 2, 2014 4:07 pm

In his defense, that was about 2 weeks ago, who knows what happened in between. Besides, he's already known to have some moves right in the past before and missed on some. Can't get 'em all I guess? Nothing will still top moldy hobo among Heat fans back in '09. :lol:

(if you dont know who hobo is......)

Spoiler:

Altered_Beast · Post #1285 » by **Altered_Beast** » Sun Feb 2, 2014 4:19 pm

The heat not going hard after bynum means they have confidence in ODIN, which is a good sign. Anyways we just need wade to be fit vs the pacers and for bosh to play like he's playing now. I still think we beat the pacers. They are our sons for a reason

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El Alonzo scowl · Post #1286 » by **El Alonzo scowl** » Sun Feb 2, 2014 9:18 pm

bushybrah_ wrote:
Maroko wrote:No time wasted for the Pacers

Mix feelings for me to be honest...

lol wow

I know, I can't believe Rasual Butler is still in the league either.

daschysta · Post #1287 » by **daschysta** » Sun Feb 2, 2014 10:43 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:Wait, they got banners of their players up? LMAO

Thats the lobby of BLF.

heatlespeatles · Post #1288 » by **heatlespeatles** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 5:03 am

Altered_Beast wrote:The heat not going hard after bynum means they have confidence in ODIN, which is a good sign. Anyways we just need wade to be fit vs the pacers and for bosh to play like he's playing now. I still think we beat the pacers. They are our sons for a reason

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they can have all the confidence they want but the past doesn't speak much for anything. History tells us he won't last.

We need to go after another center and it doesn't matter what Oden's current health status is or how encouraging his play has been, we still don't rebound the ball and give up easy putbacks and offensive rebounds on the regular

I hope I'm wrong about everything I think about Bynum being a good signing for Pacers, more so because it kept him away from us. We needed him, In the playoff's when the pace slows down, we needed that option to drop the ball in for easy points, to have a guy who can lumber over everyone and get easy put backs off our misses. A guy with experience with good instincts around the basket. Theres not many 7fters with Bynum's talent, even when he's slow as hell and can barely move he could've provided something we are missing.

The Pacers haven't impressed me as of late, PG doesn't look good and their defense has been slipping, I hope that keeps up and we pass them for HCA in the playoffs.

Another center and defensive wing is top priority right now for us. Cant keep crying over spilled milk with Bynum.

Heat3 · Post #1289 » by **Heat3** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 5:06 am

I'm sure we still have Joel Anthony's face somewhere in our Arena :lol:

nbhadja · Post #1290 » by **nbhadja** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 5:33 am

I don't think some of you guys understand just how average Hibbert looks against even scrub centers with decent size let alone average centers. Okafor and Dalembert outplay Hibbert in head to head matchups. Okafor kills him actually.

heatlespeatles · Post #1291 » by **heatlespeatles** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 7:57 am

nbhadja wrote:I don't think some of you guys understand just how average Hibbert looks against even scrub centers with decent size let alone average centers. Okafor and Dalembert outplay Hibbert in head to head matchups. Okafor kills him actually.

And we make every scrub center look like Wilt.

Tony15 · Post #1292 » by **Tony15** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 11:15 am

Ira said it best on blog, if Shannon Brown and Andrew Bynum were the last hopes we're Miami title chances, then we weren't winning one to begin with. Some guys need to stop obsessing over a guy that hasn't played well all year and has already cited passion issues, not to mention very injury-prone....pretty sure we aren't necessarily done making moves anyhow. Mason/Douglas could be cut at any time, and who knows what that could entail.

frizzledizzle · Post #1293 » by **frizzledizzle** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 12:16 pm

Tony15 wrote:Some guys need to stop obsessing over a guy that hasn't played well all year

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zL_meBbHtw[/youtube]

You don't think 20 points, 10 rebounds, 5 blocks and 3 assists against Noah isn't playing well?

He's had some other good games too. Problem is, Cavs are a bunch of losers with loser mentality. Kyrie Irving and Dion Waiters may be two of the biggest crybabies in the league. Irving has been given for reign of the franchise and he cries about losing even though he's supposed to be the leader. Dion Waiters cries that he has to take a back seat to Irving and wants out. Hell, even Irving wants out. The team has a loser mentality. It's not surprising that Bynum would have a loser mentality also. Dude played with Kobe and won championships. Why would he fall in line to a crybaby Irving when the team sucks? Not to mention, Bynum was looked at as a center piece when he joined the Cavs. He was supposed to be the starting center and quite possibly the 1st or 2nd best player on the team. On the Pacers, he's going to come off the bench and can beat up on back up trash for other teams. If he can destroy Noah, I think he can destroy Nazr Mohammad or any other back up trash that he faces. Most back up centers are terrible. Heck, half of the starting centers aren't all that impressive. Bynum being option #6-#9 on the Pacers should make his job a lot easier than being the 2nd or 3rd best player on the Cavs. Luis Scola, Danny Granger, CJ Watson and Andrew Bynum will be players 6 through 9. He's not one of the starting 5 and he's definitely not supposed to be a savior that makes a team legit like he was supposed to with Cleveland. Everyone thought his size and skillset would make the Cavs one of the better Eastern Conference teams. Not the case and now all he has to do is be a back up behind one of the better centers in league. Clog the paint and beat up on back up centers while playing for a new contract. If he doesn't play well, he'll be playing for the league minimum next year if he wants to keep playing basketball.

Altered_Beast · Post #1294 » by **Altered_Beast** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 2:42 pm

heatlespeatles wrote:
Altered_Beast wrote:The heat not going hard after bynum means they have confidence in ODIN, which is a good sign. Anyways we just need wade to be fit vs the pacers and for bosh to play like he's playing now. I still think we beat the pacers. They are our sons for a reason

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they can have all the confidence they want but the past doesn't speak much for anything. History tells us he won't last.

We need to go after another center and it doesn't matter what Oden's current health status is or how encouraging his play has been, we still don't rebound the ball and give up easy putbacks and offensive rebounds on the regular

I hope I'm wrong about everything I think about Bynum being a good signing for Pacers, more so because it kept him away from us. We needed him, In the playoff's when the pace slows down, we needed that option to drop the ball in for easy points, to have a guy who can lumber over everyone and get easy put backs off our misses. A guy with experience with good instincts around the basket. Theres not many 7fters with Bynum's talent, even when he's slow as hell and can barely move he could've provided something we are missing.

The Pacers haven't impressed me as of late, PG doesn't look good and their defense has been slipping, I hope that keeps up and we pass them for HCA in the playoffs.

Another center and defensive wing is top priority right now for us. Cant keep crying over spilled milk with Bynum.

And history tells us bynum won't last either so your point is moot. We don't need a big man down low that can score we need a big man that won't get destroyed down low on every possession and grab some boards. Anyways come playoff time the rotations shrink to about 9 players. Our starting five plus Cole/Allen/Beasley/oden I'm not sure there will be minutes for bynim or even rashard/haslem for that mattet

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Nitro1118 · Post #1295 » by **Nitro1118** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 3:48 pm

This was possibly the worst mistake Riley has made since the Big 3 have formed. They let a really good matchup for Hibbert go to Indiana, who now has a 2nd big center with more post talent than Hibbert has.

If Miami is to have a chance, they need Oden contributing 15MPG and need to add one more big body who won can rebound and at least finish off routine opportunities at the rim.

I am very nervous about this ECF matchup even if they add an Okafor. Indiana is now really deep and can kill you in a few ways.

Slot Machine · Post #1296 » by **Slot Machine** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 5:57 pm

Tony15 wrote:Ira said it best on blog, if Shannon Brown and Andrew Bynum were the last hopes we're Miami title chances, then we weren't winning one to begin with. Some guys need to stop obsessing over a guy that hasn't played well all year and has already cited passion issues, not to mention very injury-prone....pretty sure we aren't necessarily done making moves anyhow. Mason/Douglas could be cut at any time, and who knows what that could entail.

Ira's an idiot. No one here is saying he was the "last hope", we're saying he could've given us a better chance to win. As usual, Ira provides a strawman argument that hardly relates to the question.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1297 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 6:12 pm

Slot Machine wrote:
Tony15 wrote:Ira said it best on blog, if Shannon Brown and Andrew Bynum were the last hopes we're Miami title chances, then we weren't winning one to begin with. Some guys need to stop obsessing over a guy that hasn't played well all year and has already cited passion issues, not to mention very injury-prone....pretty sure we aren't necessarily done making moves anyhow. Mason/Douglas could be cut at any time, and who knows what that could entail.

Ira's an idiot. No one here is saying he was the "last hope", we're saying he could've given us a better chance to win. As usual, Ira provides a strawman argument that hardly relates to the question.

Even if Bynum did present a small upgrade to our chances (and none of us know that to be true, with how badly he looked this year), who's to say we won't make another move, a better one, before the playoffs?

The only way Bynum will be considered a missed opportunity is he plays well for Indy AND we don't make any other moves this year.

Let's wait for those 2 things to come to fruition BEFORE we start bitching about how badly we messed up the Bynum situation.

Post #1298 » by **heat4life** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 6:29 pm

Heat3 wrote:I'm sure we still have Joel Anthony's face somewhere in our Arena

Yeah, in championship alley somewhere!

Post #1299 » by **GameTime_3** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 6:52 pm

Like I said when reports(Watchout & others) came out of him coming... "LOL".

Bynum wasn't coming here! He wants to be used and part of the team. Here he would of had to "Prove" himself and play within our defensive "system". Bynum was never going to play in our system and Bynum knew this. Bynum loves himself some money! He fits perfectly over there and this is another signing of a team going right at our "system".

Hopefully Oden holds up & Bosh is ready to bang. This is the first year where on paper, Indy should beat us if it isn't for a LeBron being on our team.

KingHomer · Post #1300 » by **KingHomer** » Mon Feb 3, 2014 7:20 pm

GameTime_3 wrote:Like I said when reports(Watchout & others) came out of him coming... "LOL".

Bynum wasn't coming here! He wants to be used and part of the team. Here he would of had to "Prove" himself and play within our defensive "system". Bynum was never going to play in our system and Bynum knew this. Bynum loves himself some money! He fits perfectly over there and this is another signing of a team going right at our "system".

Hopefully Oden holds up & Bosh is ready to bang. This is the first year where on paper, Indy should beat us if it isn't for a LeBron being on our team.

I too just wasn't convinced Bynum would join here. Ethan Skolnick had a great article about him being a bad fit within the culture in the Heat locker room. Basically ours is filled w/ guys who love the game of basketball (coupled w/ the fact that there are guys on this team who have gotten paid or have something to prove). In any case, I don't see Bynum addition for either Pacers or Heat to make the real difference in a series between them. Indiana acquiring Bynum is more about us not having an added tool in combating their size advantage more than it is about Bynum helping them. I expect us to showcase our small-ball but w/ a bit of fine tuning and Birdman/Bosh playing more in tandem. The teams that beat the Pacers this year not including us were the Suns twice, Warriors, and Blazers -- basically teams that score the ball a lot and run a fast paced offense. Wade being the true X-factor in the series, he needs to win his match-up against Stevenson convincingly on both ends.

Where's Mopper? He was a great poster. One needed w/ all the chicken littles reigning about this forum.