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MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1281 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:36 pm

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twix2500 wrote:If Porzingis is available then the Heat should go after him first.

Its either Porzingis and Graham or Lowry and Adams

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No way you get Graham or Adams with either of those two. If Dragic and Iggy are to be used in trade that means we are working as a capped out team. Meaning they are needed to trade for Porzingis or a S&T Lowry.

The most we would have to spend from there is the MLE and Bi Annual. We would be able to match Nunn and Robinson if we want and offer over the cap deals with bird rights to Oladipo and Ariza. If we signed Lowry with cap space that means we have basically renounced everyone and have only the 4.7 room exception to sign an extra player.

If we sign Lowry to 23.7 million in cap space that means Nunn and Robinson get matched but little room for much else. It makes all the sense for us to operate as capped team. The very worst case scenario is everyone comes back with the additions of the MLE and bi annual player.

Going for Dinwiddie is pretty much the same scenario as going for Lowry. Going for Porzingis for me is better then Lowry or Dinwiddie. I’ll take my chances matching Nunn and signing Rose to the MLE or splitting that with someone like McConnell and another player.

Brooklyn could be interested in a S&T with Dinwiddie for Dragic and Iguodala. Might have to take on DeAndre Jordan in a deal like that.
Dragic and Iggy is 35 mill dollars so your getting back more than just Lowry. Add Precious to the deal and your talking about 37.5 mill. Salary wise you can swing a deal getting Adams and Lowry.

Let me state this, Dragis has trade value. If you are a team trying to make a run next yr Dragic has great value. So does Iggy. That is why its important to trade him so you can add a better fit player.

I'm sure the Raptors knows this and are willing to get a trade asset to use to fill up their roster as well.

Then Nunn is also a trade chip as well. The Heat have a lot of options moving Iggy, Dragic, Precious and Nunn as trade chips. Then use the full 10 mill MLE to fill up the bench.
I am confident Heat are not going make moves as an under the cap team.

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I don’t think the Raptors or most teams see Dragic and Iggy that way. They have value as an expiring contract. The Raps won’t make a trade unless it’s on there terms. The organization feels we desperately need Lowry so who knows what happens lol.
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1282 » by twix2500 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:16 pm

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Miami next stretch 4 when he gets bought out during Christmas. Giving the Heat 16 pts, 10 rbs, 4 ast and 40% 3pt%

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1283 » by Kobewade11 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:11 pm

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Miami next stretch 4 when he gets bought out during Christmas. Giving the Heat 16 pts, 10 rbs, 4 ast and 40% 3pt%

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Post#1284 » by AirP. » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:38 pm

Depending on the price, Marvin Bagley III would be an interesting talent to put next to Bam in the frontcourt. Miami has to take some risks on talent and a starting PF would be a solid place to take a risk at since they seem to always have the ability to acquire a vet PF through a trade.
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Post#1286 » by twix2500 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:06 pm

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1287 » by twix2500 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:11 pm

Making a statement here to warn you. I do not want Ben Simmons. However I can guarantee Pat Riley wants Ben Simmons, maybe not Spo, but Riley does. Riley has a long history for satisfying his point powerforwards fetish. Ervin Johnson, Anthony Mason, Antoine Walker, Lamar Odom, Lebron James and James Johnson. I bet he would unload all the young assets for him.

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1288 » by eddieheatfan » Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:23 pm

twix2500 wrote:Making a statement here to warn you. I do not want Ben Simmons. However I can guarantee Pat Riley wants Ben Simmons, maybe not Spo, but Riley does. Riley has a long history for satisfying his point powerforwards fetish. Ervin Johnson, Anthony Mason, Antoine Walker, Lamar Odom, Lebron James and James Johnson. I bet he would unload all the young assets for him.

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1289 » by oreon » Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:57 pm

twix2500 wrote:Making a statement here to warn you. I do not want Ben Simmons. However I can guarantee Pat Riley wants Ben Simmons, maybe not Spo, but Riley does. Riley has a long history for satisfying his point powerforwards fetish. Ervin Johnson, Anthony Mason, Antoine Walker, Lamar Odom, Lebron James and James Johnson. I bet he would unload all the young assets for him.

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Riley still an old school guy who values heart and toughness, no way he's going after a player he's too scared to shoot. Besides Butler hates Simmons, I don't think a guy with Simmon's personality would last much long in the Heat environment
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1290 » by AirP. » Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:29 pm

Another big to think about trying to acquire... Christian Wood. With Houston getting the #2 pick they may want to go with Mobley which could lead them to moving Wood who would be a nice offensive big next to Bam.
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1291 » by twix2500 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:10 pm

AirP. wrote:Another big to think about trying to acquire... Christian Wood. With Houston getting the #2 pick they may want to go with Mobley which could lead them to moving Wood who would be a nice offensive big next to Bam.
I think Houston looking for draft picks.

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1292 » by Beenie » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:41 pm

twix2500 wrote:Making a statement here to warn you. I do not want Ben Simmons. However I can guarantee Pat Riley wants Ben Simmons, maybe not Spo, but Riley does. Riley has a long history for satisfying his point powerforwards fetish. Ervin Johnson, Anthony Mason, Antoine Walker, Lamar Odom, Lebron James and James Johnson. I bet he would unload all the young assets for him.

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I’d guess Riley finds Ball more appealing than Simmons at this point.
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1293 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:37 am

Ethan is saying he has heard Riley interest in Adams. And Clutch says he has heard NO will go after Duncan hard.

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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1294 » by oreon » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:42 am

twix2500 wrote:Ethan is saying he has heard Riley interest in Adams. And Clutch says he has heard NO will go after Duncan hard.

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I'd rather get a pick or two back in a S&T for Duncan than Adams. I am certain one of Dame, Beal or Lavine will ask out sometime next season. The Heat need to stock on picks in case it happens
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1295 » by AirP. » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:42 am

AirP. wrote:Another big to think about trying to acquire... Christian Wood. With Houston getting the #2 pick they may want to go with Mobley which could lead them to moving Wood who would be a nice offensive big next to Bam.

Cool, Miami will have another first rounder soon.
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1296 » by Beenie » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:53 am

5 Reasons says they're hearing that there's a 75% chance Mia trades Herro.
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1297 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:54 am

New Orleans may be able to draft Kispert. If they do, then they may not be as eager for Duncan?
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1298 » by Beenie » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:00 am

I have little interest in Adams.

17m for a rebounder/screen setter seems excessive when Mia can bring back Dedmon at a fraction of the price.

Ingram or Ball (in a more complex deal) would be actual needle movers and it would take one of them to make New Orleans an attractive trade partner.
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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1299 » by heater4life » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:20 am

Beenie wrote:5 Reasons says...... (insert baseless garbage hear)


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Re: MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 

Post#1300 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:22 am

Beenie wrote:I have little interest in Adams.

17m for a rebounder/screen setter seems excessive when Mia can bring back Dedmon at a fraction of the price.

Ingram or Ball (in a more complex deal) would be actual needle movers and it would take one of them to make New Orleans an attractive trade partner.
Riley is planning on moving Bam to the 4. And making him a point powerforward

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