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DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:Sixers look cooked
How the mighty have fallen. They were a very strong team last year. If they would've won the Finals, I wouldn't have been surprised. The Process is done. All hail Colangelos and Brand!
Wiltside wrote:DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:Sixers look cooked
How the mighty have fallen. They were a very strong team last year. If they would've won the Finals, I wouldn't have been surprised. The Process is done. All hail Colangelos and Brand!
Legit question - do you think Embiid will ask for a trade?
DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:DayofMourning wrote:
How the mighty have fallen. They were a very strong team last year. If they would've won the Finals, I wouldn't have been surprised. The Process is done. All hail Colangelos and Brand!
Legit question - do you think Embiid will ask for a trade?
Probably. When? Not sure.
From what I remember, he dubbed himself "The Process" and was a fan of Hinkie.
The way that team peaked, and now has bottomed out, is something else. Philly fans are pissed at how the team building process has turned to complete **** since the Colangelos and Brand have taken over. They've ruined what the fans were so patient for. It's wild.
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Wiltside wrote:I mean, they're missing a huge piece to their puzzle in Simmons, but that team is in cap hell for the forseeable future and their Eastern rivals have overtaken them. Finishing as a 6th seed with that talent on the roster is pretty inexcusable - but the issues are that none of them fit together all that well.
Still don't know why they let Reddick go, maybe they thought Korkmaz was going to be that guy? JJ was the one guy who made Simmons and Embiid work, and even if he's ancient, still can shoot incredibly well and provide movement and spacing.
This team has paid Tobias Harris and Al Horford HUGE contracts over the next 3-4 seasons, has Simmons on a 5/170 max extension and Embiid too. There is no room to move, and these 4 players don't work together.
Something has to give. If this team gets swept, fully expect Embiid to start pouting to ask out.
There aren't a lot of obvious fits - we would be one, if we were willing to part with Bam. Phoenix with Ayton would be another.
DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:I mean, they're missing a huge piece to their puzzle in Simmons, but that team is in cap hell for the forseeable future and their Eastern rivals have overtaken them. Finishing as a 6th seed with that talent on the roster is pretty inexcusable - but the issues are that none of them fit together all that well.
Still don't know why they let Reddick go, maybe they thought Korkmaz was going to be that guy? JJ was the one guy who made Simmons and Embiid work, and even if he's ancient, still can shoot incredibly well and provide movement and spacing.
This team has paid Tobias Harris and Al Horford HUGE contracts over the next 3-4 seasons, has Simmons on a 5/170 max extension and Embiid too. There is no room to move, and these 4 players don't work together.
Something has to give. If this team gets swept, fully expect Embiid to start pouting to ask out.
There aren't a lot of obvious fits - we would be one, if we were willing to part with Bam. Phoenix with Ayton would be another.
Simmons doesn't take you to the next level, though he is a very quality player. Doubt they'd beat Boston with him.
From what I can remember reading, Philly fans are pissed about Okafor over Porzingis, Fultz over Tatum, losing Redick, losing Butler, signing Tobias, losing RoCo, signing Horford, and I'm sure there are more I can't recall. That's all in the course of a couple seasons. Fans are about to riot. I consider Embiid a Philly fan too. Outlook is bleak.
Wiltside wrote:I mean, I get being pissed about Okafor over Porzingis but that's also revisionist history. Okafor had question marks but he was still almost universally a consensus Top 3-5 pick. Porzingis made a late run into the Top 5 after individual workouts and the Knicks were universally mocked for that pick - unfairly so.
Fultz over Tatum is fair, as this deal really turned into a nightmare for them. I can't talk, I was very high on Fultz and thought he was going to be a star. Clearly Philly did too as they traded #3 + future picks from memory. Tatum looked good too, but I wasn't sure he was going to be THIS good. That deal really killed them - imagine having Tatum instead of Harris right now? They could've invested that money into shooters, a PG, anything...
DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:I mean, I get being pissed about Okafor over Porzingis but that's also revisionist history. Okafor had question marks but he was still almost universally a consensus Top 3-5 pick. Porzingis made a late run into the Top 5 after individual workouts and the Knicks were universally mocked for that pick - unfairly so.
Fultz over Tatum is fair, as this deal really turned into a nightmare for them. I can't talk, I was very high on Fultz and thought he was going to be a star. Clearly Philly did too as they traded #3 + future picks from memory. Tatum looked good too, but I wasn't sure he was going to be THIS good. That deal really killed them - imagine having Tatum instead of Harris right now? They could've invested that money into shooters, a PG, anything...
In reference to Kristaps, the story goes that Hinkie wanted him, but he was overruled by others in the org who were being influenced by public perception.
I have no idea how the Tatum/Fultz situation would have worked out if Hinkie would have stayed, but I feel as if he'd have made the right decision, lol.
Oh yeah, Ersan and Belli moved on too, and those boys were super solid for them.
Wiltside wrote:DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:I mean, I get being pissed about Okafor over Porzingis but that's also revisionist history. Okafor had question marks but he was still almost universally a consensus Top 3-5 pick. Porzingis made a late run into the Top 5 after individual workouts and the Knicks were universally mocked for that pick - unfairly so.
Fultz over Tatum is fair, as this deal really turned into a nightmare for them. I can't talk, I was very high on Fultz and thought he was going to be a star. Clearly Philly did too as they traded #3 + future picks from memory. Tatum looked good too, but I wasn't sure he was going to be THIS good. That deal really killed them - imagine having Tatum instead of Harris right now? They could've invested that money into shooters, a PG, anything...
In reference to Kristaps, the story goes that Hinkie wanted him, but he was overruled by others in the org who were being influenced by public perception.
I have no idea how the Tatum/Fultz situation would have worked out if Hinkie would have stayed, but I feel as if he'd have made the right decision, lol.
Oh yeah, Ersan and Belli moved on too, and those boys were super solid for them.
Porzi does scream like a hinkie style pick. Porzingis and Embiid with Simmons at the 1? OOOFT
DayofMourning wrote:Wiltside wrote:DayofMourning wrote:
In reference to Kristaps, the story goes that Hinkie wanted him, but he was overruled by others in the org who were being influenced by public perception.
I have no idea how the Tatum/Fultz situation would have worked out if Hinkie would have stayed, but I feel as if he'd have made the right decision, lol.
Oh yeah, Ersan and Belli moved on too, and those boys were super solid for them.
Porzi does scream like a hinkie style pick. Porzingis and Embiid with Simmons at the 1? OOOFT
And Tatum? At the 2?
PG-6'10"
SG-6'8"
PF-7'3"
C-7'2"
Tallest lineup ever.
carnageta wrote:Playoff Paul George coming through tonight
IggieCC wrote:carnageta wrote:Playoff Paul George coming through tonight
Yup. This is Playoff P I know. The guy is a tad overrated because his game looks nice, but plenty shambles in his game (mostly this erratic shooting). I get that Kawhi's very unselfish by nature, but he's gotta do his best MJ impression when this Playoff P shows up.
dean456 wrote:IggieCC wrote:carnageta wrote:Playoff Paul George coming through tonight
Yup. This is Playoff P I know. The guy is a tad overrated because his game looks nice, but plenty shambles in his game (mostly this erratic shooting). I get that Kawhi's very unselfish by nature, but he's gotta do his best MJ impression when this Playoff P shows up.
I feel like PG and Kawhi aren't very compatible. They really don't play off each other at all. If they don't play elite defense they are going to struggle.
