2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition

[insfo]

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i dunno it's just a diff time & era. One cat cut from the same cloth as past greats is Jimmy. I'd love for Bam to come out & say the stuff Butler says & then deliver on it. Could you imagine Bam telling the media he's sick of losing or that we're going to win a championship. That's the sort of toughness he needs to show. That toughness will spread to the entire team. Instead we get "We're human". F*ck outta here man. No wonder we're shooting like a bunch of soft pansies. We gotta hold each other accountable. I come from the 90s era man. I don't play this bullsh*t.

Agreed. “We’re human, it’s tough” is very tone deaf when during contract negotiations come up they wanna be treated like they’re supernatural. Can’t have it both ways.

Herro using the media to say he would be better and it would be better for the team if he started. That joker has only been in 9 games we’ve won where he scored more than 22 points. We will get rid of Lowry this off-season but will be stuck with Uncan for 3 more years and Herro for 5!

And then you have old dude UD, who continues to play this useless, ineffective role. That toughness/guidance/presence or what ever the hell it is he's supposed to be doing ain't doing sh*t....especially this season. He's not influencing our players to be tough, gritty competitors. This ain't the Riles grind it out team i'm accustomed to.

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"... my last year ..."

[MiamiLoyal926]

"... my last year ..."

He is setting up the stage for a return! This year was not what he imagined it, so do over!

[3ballbomber]

It took us so long to find a Jimmy Butler - and the fact that he's unearthed this other level of competing when the stage gets bigger makes me feel like we're making lateral moves and kicking the can down the road for something that may or not be greater pastures.

Jimmy should be a Heat lifer as should Bam. Those are 2 elite two way players whom have had to adapt to a poor roster moreso than rosters fitting their strengths for 2 out of the 4 years we've had in this Butler window. Jimmy playing the 4 this year is such a sign that this year was not it.

All this to say, i'm excited to see a true rebuild around Jimmy and Bam.

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We contend w/ Jimmy & give it a final push once we solidify our roster, absolutely.

[insfo]

2 top 15 players? Sign me up!!

[3ballbomber]

"... my last year ..."

He is setting up the stage for a return! This year was not what he imagined it, so do over!

[El Alonzo scowl]

Yeah it's time to get ruthless with this roster. No more free rides except Uncan cause he's so radioactive a dosimeter would melt in his vicinity. Let ALL the free agents walk. Trade Herro cause giving him that contract before he actually earned it was a huge mistake. Do not give Dipo another contract if he opts out, he is finished. Every single player and draft pick except Jimmy and Bam should be available to be traded. Go all-in on building around those two. No whale hunting, build a balanced complementary roster of roleplayers to our stars like in 2006. Which is what we should've done last offseason instead of delude ourselves into thinking we could get KD or Spida.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Good fit for Gogi no doubt. Want no part of the Bucks in playoffs. Major sweep feels like in 2021.

[3ballbomber]

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I ride w/ Riles & Heat Org. Casual & fickle fans wld sooner get rid of everybody each time we're deemed unsuccessful. We've been one of the most successful franchises in the NBA & sports period. Since 98/99 we're top of just 4 winningest teams in the East. I'd much rather make the mistakes we've had than listen to arm chair GM's think they can run this organization.

[eddieheatfan]

"... my last year ..."

He is setting up the stage for a return! This year was not what he imagined it, so do over!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Keep Bam and Jimmy,

trade EVERYONE else with all the picks needed for the best 3&D PF, SG and PG we can get.

This would be great. One of the spots we need a high level scorer though, preferably at one of the guard spots. Like imagine we come up with 6 1sts and bring in Dame and Jerami grant and sign someone like JRich to play the 2. This team would be insane.

[ShulaDon92]

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I ride w/ Riles & Heat Org. Casual & fickle fans wld sooner get rid of everybody each time we're deemed unsuccessful. We've been one of the most successful franchises in the NBA & sports period. Since 98/99 we're top of just 4 winningest teams in the East. I'd much rather make the mistakes we've had than listen to arm chair GM's think they can run this organization.

I trust the front office to do their thing. Anyone and everyone is on the chopping block should this be a failure and why not? Just get better.

[eddieheatfan]

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I ride w/ Riles & Heat Org. Casual & fickle fans wld sooner get rid of everybody each time we're deemed unsuccessful. We've been one of the most successful franchises in the NBA & sports period. Since 98/99 we're top of just 4 winningest teams in the East. I'd much rather make the mistakes we've had than listen to arm chair GM's think they can run this organization.

persperctive perspective

mot of these titles and finals were under the banner of wade,shaq,lebron,bosh etc etc etc with the excerption of the bubble year and last year.

we dont have a true star/superstar and complimentary pairings right now. jimmy and bam are on the fringe while the other role players are either g leaguers or washed up vets.


its going to take a while for the heat to resemble the shaq and big 3 eras, hell they dont even resemble the alonzo mouring and briant grant.eddie jones timmy hardway eras either

[ShulaDon92]

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I ride w/ Riles & Heat Org. Casual & fickle fans wld sooner get rid of everybody each time we're deemed unsuccessful. We've been one of the most successful franchises in the NBA & sports period. Since 98/99 we're top of just 4 winningest teams in the East. I'd much rather make the mistakes we've had than listen to arm chair GM's think they can run this organization.

persperctive perspective

mot of these titles and finals were under the banner of wade,shaq,lebron,bosh etc etc etc with the excerption of the bubble year and last year.

we dont have a true star/superstar and complimentary pairings right now. jimmy and bam are on the fringe while the other role players are either g leaguers or washed up vets.


its going to take a while for the heat to resemble the shaq and big 3 eras, hell they dont even resemble the alonzo mouring and briant grant.eddie jones timmy hardway eras either

Last night was a bad sign. Playing inefficient, playing with no passion. Letting Beard and Maxi cook em to hell with no response. It's just not winning bball. Don't know why it happens.

[ShulaDon92]

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Good fit for Gogi no doubt. Want no part of the Bucks in playoffs. Major sweep feels like in 2021.

Giving Pat Jesus vinegar on the cross at this point.

[HeatFanLifer]

Trade everyone. Even BBallFreak.

[marson]

I agree with eddie remove the big 3 era and suddenly we are tied with the Raptors with only 1 NBA title.

We're just lucky Wade and Lebby are Bffs before coming here.

[HeatFanLifer]

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I ride w/ Riles & Heat Org. Casual & fickle fans wld sooner get rid of everybody each time we're deemed unsuccessful. We've been one of the most successful franchises in the NBA & sports period. Since 98/99 we're top of just 4 winningest teams in the East. I'd much rather make the mistakes we've had than listen to arm chair GM's think they can run this organization.

persperctive perspective

mot of these titles and finals were under the banner of wade,shaq,lebron,bosh etc etc etc with the excerption of the bubble year and last year.

we dont have a true star/superstar and complimentary pairings right now. jimmy and bam are on the fringe while the other role players are either g leaguers or washed up vets.


its going to take a while for the heat to resemble the shaq and big 3 eras, hell they dont even resemble the alonzo mouring and briant grant.eddie jones timmy hardway eras either

I think some experts (such as BBallFreak), may be forgetting that the Heat did a two year tank in the early 2000’s to set them up for those championship runs. That two year tank cleared cap space and delivered Odom/Butler/Wade. Odom and Butler were traded for Shaq and the rest is history.

As for the team before that 2 year tank, in hindsight they really did not accomplish much. A lot was driven due to Zo’s disease, but also the Knicks had the Heat’s number and knocked em out of the first round quite a bit.

[Kobewade11]

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I ride w/ Riles & Heat Org. Casual & fickle fans wld sooner get rid of everybody each time we're deemed unsuccessful. We've been one of the most successful franchises in the NBA & sports period. Since 98/99 we're top of just 4 winningest teams in the East. I'd much rather make the mistakes we've had than listen to arm chair GM's think they can run this organization.

Rebuilds sound sexy to couch GMs but nobody really wants to watch that for 2 years. 08 was misery, watching that high draft pick not pan out was even worse. I’d much rather be in the position of being in the playoffs and trying to figure it out. Track record says this organization typically does find their way, even if it comes at the cost of a few lean years without completely bottoming out.

[ShulaDon92]

I agree with eddie remove the big 3 era and suddenly we are tied with the Raptors with only 1 NBA title.

We're just lucky Wade and Lebby are Bffs before coming here.

This is extremely bad logic and I will tell you why.

We could have won titles without LeBron.

We could have rebuilt to win titles a few years later

We could have won 1 title with wade and Bosh, traded for Westbrook or harden and won even more titles...

You just never know.

[3ballbomber]

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I ride w/ Riles & Heat Org. Casual & fickle fans wld sooner get rid of everybody each time we're deemed unsuccessful. We've been one of the most successful franchises in the NBA & sports period. Since 98/99 we're top of just 4 winningest teams in the East. I'd much rather make the mistakes we've had than listen to arm chair GM's think they can run this organization.

persperctive perspective

mot of these titles and finals were under the banner of wade,shaq,lebron,bosh etc etc etc with the excerption of the bubble year and last year.

we dont have a true star/superstar and complimentary pairings right now. jimmy and bam are on the fringe while the other role players are either g leaguers or washed up vets.


its going to take a while for the heat to resemble the shaq and big 3 eras, hell they dont even resemble the alonzo mouring and briant grant.eddie jones timmy hardway eras either

Spoiler:

Well isn't that the point? we were able to maneuver, strategize & make moves to pair Shaq w/ Wade. Wade/Bron/Bosh had the choice of going to Chicago to play w/ Rose instead stayed w/ our organization, our culture to win rings. Had Wade played for Utah or Minny you think they stay?

Since signing Jimmy we've made 2 conference finals in 3 seasons & a shot away from reaching 2 NBA finals in 3 seasons. All while experiencing a tirade of injuries & playing w/ g-leaguers & undrafted cats. It's not just the front office that's successful it's across the board: our coaching staff, trainers, recruiters etc. recognising talent & developing these nobody's to help us clinch 1st seed & playoff berths.

Only our own fan base disrespects our very own. We're fickle, spoilt & entitled. I f*ck w/ us heavy. We'll figure this thing out sooner or later. Wether we blow it up or not (history tells you we don't) either way i support us one hundred percent.