Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Draymond Klutch and Rich Paul are not coming anywhere near here

i have a feeling hes going to the lakers

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Why are so many people writing off Dame already? This was Patrick James Riley’s master plan all along; you miss out on Beal because you didn’t want to offer anything that was needed for Dame and now the sky is falling. Patrick ALWAYS gets his whale; sit back and let it happen.

Portland is not getting **** to become legit contenders with #3 and 23

We are in a disadvantage with the Nets

Let The Godfather work his magic

[gom]

is it time to keep Bam and get rid of everybody else, start fresh with a bunch of picks? On the other hand who would want Duncan's bloated contract? Finally bad financial desicions are catching up to us and will keep us in mediocrity for a long time. Things look hopeless.

The entitlement here is grotesque. Two weeks ago we were playing in the Finals. Also, Duncan (he of bloated contract) was one of the players who made a difference in the postseason. I know this doesn't jibe with your version of reality, but you shouldn't have burned through all those brain cells.

Thank you for your very insightful post.

rats... I was going for inciteful, not insightful. (ducking)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Not a bad gamble to jumpstart the rebuilding process.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Why are so many people writing off Dame already? This was Patrick James Riley’s master plan all along; you miss out on Beal because you didn’t want to offer anything that was needed for Dame and now the sky is falling. Patrick ALWAYS gets his whale; sit back and let it happen.

Portland is not getting **** to become legit contenders with #3 and 23

We are in a disadvantage with the Nets

Let The Godfather work his magic

Agreed, there are countless more trades where Pat can lowball

[MettaWorldPanda]

Why are so many people writing off Dame already? This was Patrick James Riley’s master plan all along; you miss out on Beal because you didn’t want to offer anything that was needed for Dame and now the sky is falling. Patrick ALWAYS gets his whale; sit back and let it happen.

Portland is not getting **** to become legit contenders with #3 and 23

We are in a disadvantage with the Nets

Let The Godfather work his magic

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[RexBoyWonder]

I really wonder - Is anyone here, really, seriously, in all honesty -

Thinks we'll get Dame this offseason?

Really?

[miamiballer]

I could totally see Portland trading 3 for Williamson just to keep Dame, it is very short sighted for sure and won’t work, Zion is injury prone beyond belief and prob will never be the same player but I could see this getting dame excited enough to stay

[MHeat0279]

is it time to keep Bam and get rid of everybody else, start fresh with a bunch of picks? On the other hand who would want Duncan's bloated contract? Finally bad financial desicions are catching up to us and will keep us in mediocrity for a long time. Things look hopeless.

Ya'll c'mon. Dudes were just in finals. 2nd straight ECF final appearance. 2 finals appearance in 4 seasons, 3 ECF in 4 seasons. If hopeless is a finals appearance every 2 seasons I'd take that.
The big 3 era spoilt Heat fans. Now we expect championship or bust when that just isn't realistic.

Dont you think stars had to align for this team to make the finals? We had no business playing in the eastern finals much less in the NBA finals. And for all the perpetual conformists and optimists Jimmy's contract will get real ugly and he is not exactly a young player, IF the front office can not get another good scorer for whatever reason ( handing out ugly contracts, etc etc ) then we will not win crap, we are not here to make the playoffs, we are here to win it all. As of right now, barely any picks, ugly contracts and no chance to land somebody to get us over the hump. Just dont see a realistic way out of this self inflicted mess short of a miracle.

[MHeat0279]

The entitlement here is grotesque. Two weeks ago we were playing in the Finals. Also, Duncan (he of bloated contract) was one of the players who made a difference in the postseason. I know this doesn't jibe with your version of reality, but you shouldn't have burned through all those brain cells.

Thank you for your very insightful post.

rats... I was going for inciteful, not insightful. (ducking)

We got a sarcastic one? Good for you ding ding ding...

[wade44]

Feels like the fan base should be pivoting away from hoping for something that’s not there. Instead should be focusing on lesser complimentary pieces that are available. This pipe dream stuff of getting all these big fish guys for garbage and likely late first round future picks is tiring

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

We are in a disadvantage with the Nets

Let The Godfather work his magic

[tweet]167082669767804518et]

I haven't entered a supermarket in like 3 years.

Amazon Fresh and Walmart+ (like $12/month membership + tips). Order groceries, delivered at home 2-4 hours later


Can't imagine multi millionaire Pat wasting time to drive to the store and walk with a cart lol

[SoFlaKingReal]

Draymond Klutch and Rich Paul are not coming anywhere near here

Thank the lord

[oreon]

is it time to keep Bam and get rid of everybody else, start fresh with a bunch of picks? On the other hand who would want Duncan's bloated contract? Finally bad financial desicions are catching up to us and will keep us in mediocrity for a long time. Things look hopeless.

Ya'll c'mon. Dudes were just in finals. 2nd straight ECF final appearance. 2 finals appearance in 4 seasons, 3 ECF in 4 seasons. If hopeless is a finals appearance every 2 seasons I'd take that.
The big 3 era spoilt Heat fans. Now we expect championship or bust when that just isn't realistic.

Heat culture preaching championship or bust and Pat Riley talking about whale hunting every year has brainwashed the fan base. That’s why expectations are so high, plus we watched Wade for nearly 2 decades who was the epitome of greatness, it gives you high hopes and expectations

I don't think post Lebron Spo and Riley has coming out and said it's a chip or failure. They've probably said the goal is to win a chip but that's not championship or bust.
I maybe wrong but I don't remember something like that coming from Spo or Riles

And in terms of high expectations. They've met those. 2 finals appearance with this roster is success. Success isn't just winning everything all the time. Life doesn't work like that.

We don't have that 1st ballot hall of famer in his prime along side a 2nd top 15 player for this to be championship or bust team. The only teams which were championship or bust were Heatles, GSW with KD, big 3 Nets and now Suns

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I really wonder - Is anyone here, really, seriously, in all honesty -

Thinks we'll get Dame this offseason?

Really?

If it comes to the point that Dame and Portland decide it’s time to part ways by Thursday night yes I do and if not I’m ready for Pat to step down

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Feels like the fan base should be pivoting away from hoping for something that’s not there. Instead should be focusing on lesser complimentary pieces that are available. This pipe dream stuff of getting all these big fish guys for garbage and likely late first round future picks is tiring

serious post here.

Trade for Buddy Hield, SG. Maybe they would take a package around Herro and Jovic + future pick or something.

Trade for Patrick Williams, PF. Send expirings of Lowry and Oladipo to a third team, in exchange for an upgrade at Point Guard for Chicago.... will have to use the #18 pick here, along with maybe some more picks

Gabe
Hield
Jimmy
Williams
Bam


as our starting 5.

[Lennyzinho]

Let The Godfather work his magic

[tweet]167082669767804518et]

I haven't entered a supermarket in like 3 years.

Amazon Fresh and Walmart+ (like $12/month membership + tips). Order groceries, delivered at home 2-4 hours later


Can't imagine multi millionaire Pat wasting time to drive to the store and walk with a cart lol

I live right next to a whole foods. I actually find it relaxing and I enjoy getting chores done. And don't get me started on the babes in yoga pants as an added bonus.

[contract]

I'd be interested in knowing the extent to which Herro was ever even mentioned or considered in any trade discussions with the Wizards.

I know the report is that Miami wasn't willing to include him, but I wonder how Washington valued him.

Miami seemed dead set on only doing a deal for Beal if it was the optimal salary dump on our end.

I'm just getting over the fact that there seemed like a reasonable path to upgrade our starting SG (from Herro to Beal) AND backup PG (from Lowry to Wright) without giving up any future assets, and that path is now gone.

Herro has more value than what Washington got for Beal, which was essentially just cap relief. The fact that he's still here says it all.

Just because the Heat's FO values him a lot doesn't mean he is valued by other GMs.
If you are a contender his contract is ridiculous and you rather have 2 role players instead.
If you are rebuilding, you don't want to rebuild around Herro, he's a limited defender and not an elite scorer.

Only teams who think he can singnificantly improve his offensive skill set and efficiency would take a gamble on him, I think the market is very limited.

I'm no Herro stan, and in fact I'm usually first in line to criticize his game, his efficiency, his defense, his delusional self-perception, and his overvalued contract ... but that's all it is, overvalued. Herro should be earning ~ Duncan Robinson money. But Herro at $27 million is only ~ 1/2 the true max, and nowhere near the worst contract in the NBA.

I think his contract has negative value, but it's hardly the kid of deal that's impossible or nearly impossible to move. That would be Duncan. I'm not someone who thinks we can get a couple of first round picks for him, but I don't think we could get one from a near contender looking for an extra scorer. That team might end up regretting it, but that's their problem.

[Lennyzinho]

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Good. Do it. Then zion gets hurt yet again and blazers struggling to stay at .500. And we get Dame at the deadline. DISCOUNTED.

[wade44]

Feels like the fan base should be pivoting away from hoping for something that’s not there. Instead should be focusing on lesser complimentary pieces that are available. This pipe dream stuff of getting all these big fish guys for garbage and likely late first round future picks is tiring

serious post here.

Trade for Buddy Hield, SG. Maybe they would take a package around Herro and Jovic or something.

Trade for Patrick Williams, PF. Send expirings of Lowry and Oladipo to a third team, in exchange for an upgrade at Point Guard for Chicago.... will have to use the #18 pick here, along with maybe some more picks

Gabe
Hield
Jimmy
Williams
Bam


as our starting 5.

That’s a start. Hield would be a great get