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Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread 3.0: Dame Time 

Post#1361 » by Kobewade11 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:19 pm

HeatIn5 wrote:If Houston wants the #18 pick - they also want a veteran PG

Lowry and 18 for Porter Jr, Eason and a future 2nd


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Post#1362 » by powerball1373 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:23 pm

Wiltside wrote:That CP trade sets the market for Lowry IMO.

Should mean we could obtain a quality player and a pick if we play our cards right.


I think CP is better than Lowry, but yeah, close enough I guess. Just need to find a taker that could actually use Lowry other than strictly for cap relief.
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Post#1363 » by Lennyzinho » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:23 pm

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
Wiltside wrote:That CP trade sets the market for Lowry IMO.

Should mean we could obtain a quality player and a pick if we play our cards right.

also, this gives me an idea

If expirings are so valuable now this year with teams adapting to new CBA

what's to stop us from signing one of our guys to a highly paid 1 year deal, to then use as an expiring come february?


Because it's only valuable if you trade it for another contract with more years. If you wanna start taking other teams long term contracts and hamstring our future even more, this is the way.
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Post#1365 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:28 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:
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Wiltside wrote:That CP trade sets the market for Lowry IMO.

Should mean we could obtain a quality player and a pick if we play our cards right.

also, this gives me an idea

If expirings are so valuable now this year with teams adapting to new CBA

what's to stop us from signing one of our guys to a highly paid 1 year deal, to then use as an expiring come february?


Because it's only valuable if you trade it for another contract with more years. If you wanna start taking other teams long term contracts and hamstring our future even more, this is the way.


Also the tax bill. So we would be going over the 2nd apron to get a future first. Does anyone think Mickey would pay that?
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Post#1366 » by DayofMourning » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:29 pm

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Id do that trade and i love Mikal. Its just good value for an elite role player.
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Post#1367 » by VaDe255 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:30 pm

There is also no point in keeping Jimmy around if you are just running it back.

They either go all in, which means sarificing the future and take on some contracts or they rebuild.

This middling thing where you draft some players around bam/jimmy and run it back, basically gets you nowhere but a first/second round exit. What's the point of being a middling team and pay the tax?
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Post#1368 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:32 pm

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Id do that trade and i love Mikal. Its just good value for an elite role player.


Honestly the value is not bad, if they can get another first from Portland it gets interesting. The main issue I see is that since the Nets dont own there picks, they cant really tank so they have to be in win now mentality, and maybe they think he is more than an elite role player. It looks like he is starting to break out and be a real star. Maybe not top 5 star but very good and one needs that to be a win now make the playoffs type team
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Post#1369 » by heatlejuice » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:32 pm

VaDe255 wrote:There is also no point in keeping Jimmy around if you are just running it back.

They either go all in, which means sarificing the future and take on some contracts or they rebuild.

This middling thing where you draft some players around bam/jimmy and run it back, basically gets you nowhere but a first/second round exit. What's the point of being a middling team and pay the tax?


Making it to the finals twice in 4 years is middling? :banghead:
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Post#1370 » by SoFlaKingReal » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:34 pm

VaDe255 wrote:There is also no point in keeping Jimmy around if you are just running it back.

They either go all in, which means sarificing the future and take on some contracts or they rebuild.

This middling thing where you draft some players around bam/jimmy and run it back, basically gets you nowhere but a first/second round exit. What's the point of being a middling team and pay the tax?


ECF and Finals the last two years doing just what you said “gets you nowhere but a first/second round exit”

To be clear, I don’t necessarily disagree with your point, but the Heat have overachieved every step of the way.
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Post#1371 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:38 pm

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VaDe255 wrote:There is also no point in keeping Jimmy around if you are just running it back.

They either go all in, which means sarificing the future and take on some contracts or they rebuild.

This middling thing where you draft some players around bam/jimmy and run it back, basically gets you nowhere but a first/second round exit. What's the point of being a middling team and pay the tax?


Making it to the finals twice in 4 years is middling? :banghead:


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Post#1372 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:46 pm

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VaDe255 wrote:There is also no point in keeping Jimmy around if you are just running it back.

They either go all in, which means sarificing the future and take on some contracts or they rebuild.

This middling thing where you draft some players around bam/jimmy and run it back, basically gets you nowhere but a first/second round exit. What's the point of being a middling team and pay the tax?


Making it to the finals twice in 4 years is middling? :banghead:


tell me, what's the difference between being a treadmill team in the 1st round, and being a treadmill team in the ECF/Finals that can never get over the hump?

are we trying to win a championship or not, thats why people are not happy with more run it back. We lost in 5 to denver because of the same exact problem we had after losing in 7 to Boston last year.
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Post#1375 » by Vertical Limit » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:57 pm

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Wiltside wrote:That CP trade sets the market for Lowry IMO.

Should mean we could obtain a quality player and a pick if we play our cards right.


I think CP is better than Lowry, but yeah, close enough I guess. Just need to find a taker that could actually use Lowry other than strictly for cap relief.

CP3 has been moved twice so far for salary cap reasons, nothing to do with ability.
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Post#1377 » by HeatIn5 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:00 pm

I think it will be one of (if it's at 18 for us)

Cason Wallace
Keyonte George
Nick Smith
Olivier Maxence-Prosper
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Post#1378 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:03 pm

HeatIn5 wrote:I think it will be one of (if it's at 18 for us)

Cason Wallace
Keyonte George
Nick Smith
Olivier Maxence-Prosper
Brice Sensabaugh


Breaking news... I saw Wemby doing hard drugs. All 17 teams ahead of Miami should be wary of picking him
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Post#1379 » by HeatIn5 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:07 pm

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HeatIn5 wrote:I think it will be one of (if it's at 18 for us)

Cason Wallace
Keyonte George
Nick Smith
Olivier Maxence-Prosper
Brice Sensabaugh


Breaking news... I saw Wemby doing hard drugs. All 17 teams ahead of Miami should be wary of picking him



I think he could walk in with a Gas Mask and he'd still go 1
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