**NBA Draft Discussion 2024 2.0**

[RexBoyWonder]

All this Edey talk has me recalling Michael Beasley's insane college production. Can you believe Beasley--as a freshman--actually averaged more ppg and rpg than Edey's dominant senior season?

Beasley being such a bust still hurts despite the big 3 and all that followed lol

College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.

Spo HAD a winning formula. It worked while he had an ELITE wing, top 3 playoffs performer in Jimmy.

No one on this roster is currently sniffing Jimmy's peak level.

We need to change the formula.
(And personal).

[MettaWorldPanda]

All this Edey talk has me recalling Michael Beasley's insane college production. Can you believe Beasley--as a freshman--actually averaged more ppg and rpg than Edey's dominant senior season?

Beasley being such a bust still hurts despite the big 3 and all that followed lol

College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.

Spo HAD a winning formula. It worked while he had an ELITE wing, top 3 playoffs performer in Jimmy.

No one on this roster is currently sniffing Jimmy's peak level.

We need to change the formula.
(And personal).

The formula still works. It doesn't include adding a 300 pound lumbering Center. The problem is trying to make it work with players like Martin and Highsmith. Let's get bigger and athletic in the front court but let's not get carried away either.

[twix2500]

College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.

Spo HAD a winning formula. It worked while he had an ELITE wing, top 3 playoffs performer in Jimmy.

No one on this roster is currently sniffing Jimmy's peak level.

We need to change the formula.
(And personal).

The formula still works. It doesn't include adding a 300 pound lumbering Center. The problem is trying to make it work with players like Martin and Highsmith. Let's get bigger and athletic in the front court but let's not get carried away either.

Cmon you telling me Highsmith and Martin is the reason the Heat has the bottom of the league offense? Are you serious?

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[AirP.]

The youtube version is being put up at 11 Eastern. There may be whispers of Miami may be looking at moving up into the top 5. FYI, the 5th pick will be paid 8 mil a year. On other podcasts it's been said that some teams don't think the players are worth the rookie contracts since they see the top of the draft as your normal 7-12 picks vs 1-5 in this weaker at the top draft.

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How the hell are we going to get into the top 5 without trading Bam?

Say you're Detroit at #5, you have possibly 61 million cap space and probably can't get good free agents without overpaying, toss in they've had some bad luck in the draft, now calculate that in a projected bad draft, toss in you need shooting and you come tothe conclusion that maybe Detroit is willing to trade your pick for someone like Herro and something else.

Miami's side, they could trade a 29 million dollar contracted player for an 8-million-dollar rookie shooter or PG saving Miami 21 million instantly this year and moving forward. It's an interesting situation and would save Miami a ton of money.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Spo HAD a winning formula. It worked while he had an ELITE wing, top 3 playoffs performer in Jimmy.

No one on this roster is currently sniffing Jimmy's peak level.

We need to change the formula.
(And personal).

The formula still works. It doesn't include adding a 300 pound lumbering Center. The problem is trying to make it work with players like Martin and Highsmith. Let's get bigger and athletic in the front court but let's not get carried away either.

Cmon you telling me Highsmith and Martin is the reason the Heat has the bottom of the league offense? Are you serious?

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We were the number 1 seed when we had Tucker and Lowry in the starting lineup.

[DayofMourning]

So we getting the 3rd pick for Butler and the 5th pick for Herro???

Hellz yeah dudes!

[AirP.]

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[twix2500]

The formula still works. It doesn't include adding a 300 pound lumbering Center. The problem is trying to make it work with players like Martin and Highsmith. Let's get bigger and athletic in the front court but let's not get carried away either.

Cmon you telling me Highsmith and Martin is the reason the Heat has the bottom of the league offense? Are you serious?

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We were the number 1 seed when we had Tucker and Lowry in the starting lineup.

Because defensively the Heat was top five. The Heat offense was middle of the league like 14th. Jimmy Butler was 3 years younger. Jimmy now is old, and injury prone thus now you got one of the worse offenses in the league. Running the same scheme is not gonna fixed the offense

[lastb1ckman]

All this Edey talk has me recalling Michael Beasley's insane college production. Can you believe Beasley--as a freshman--actually averaged more ppg and rpg than Edey's dominant senior season?

Beasley being such a bust still hurts despite the big 3 and all that followed lol

College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.

Spo HAD a winning formula. It worked while he had an ELITE wing, top 3 playoffs performer in Jimmy.

No one on this roster is currently sniffing Jimmy's peak level.

We need to change the formula.
(And personal).

Yeah unless the heat make a major trade, I don't know if it make sense to keep the exact same formula or roster going. I don't expect Jimmy to suddenly play MORE games, become MORE healthy, and give MORE regular season effort another year older. Which is the only way our current formula can work. The team just keep falling apart by the playoffs.

We need either a major trade, an influx of major offensive talent, or players that can bring size and health so our players don't keep hurt themselves playing up 24/7. It looks like they're exploring this based on who they're working out. I think Ware, Edey, or Missi can be good upgrades from Love, Bryant, or Robinson in the non Bam minutes.

I personally will be a bit disappointed if it ends up being a wing at 15, because unless that wing is a major offensive difference maker, its just a caleb martin replacement. Which is fine I guess, but does nothing to change our status quo from last year. Infact, there's a good chance we don't even make the play in.

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[twix2500]

Ethan revealed this morning that the Heat are extremely high on Jaylon Tyson 6'7 swing from Cal.

Miami Media is scrambling on where the rumor originated that Heat are looking to move up in the draft

[DayofMourning]

"Detroit has traded the 5th pick in the draft to the Miami Heat. With the 5th pick, the Heat select Jaylon Tyson, shooting guard, University of California".

[greg4012]

The youtube version is being put up at 11 Eastern. There may be whispers of Miami may be looking at moving up into the top 5. FYI, the 5th pick will be paid 8 mil a year. On other podcasts it's been said that some teams don't think the players are worth the rookie contracts since they see the top of the draft as your normal 7-12 picks vs 1-5 in this weaker at the top draft.

Spoiler:

 

Watch on YouTube

How the hell are we going to get into the top 5 without trading Bam?

Say you're Detroit at #5, you have possibly 61 million cap space and probably can't get good free agents without overpaying, toss in they've had some bad luck in the draft, now calculate that in a projected bad draft, toss in you need shooting and you come tothe conclusion that maybe Detroit is willing to trade your pick for someone like Herro and something else.

Miami's side, they could trade a 29 million dollar contracted player for an 8-million-dollar rookie shooter or PG saving Miami 21 million instantly this year and moving forward. It's an interesting situation and would save Miami a ton of money.

I don't hate this idea. If we want to entertain this rumor as having any validity, and we only go off of the confirmed workout list for Miami, Ron Holland would be the guy.

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But, I also don't believe that the published list of workouts represents the full list of workouts that are happening across the NBA.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

"Detroit has traded the 5th pick in the draft to the Miami Heat. With the 5th pick, the Heat select Jaylon Tyson, shooting guard, University of California".

Devin Carter

[DayofMourning]

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Ho

Lee

Chit

!

[lastb1ckman]

"Detroit has traded the 5th pick in the draft to the Miami Heat. With the 5th pick, the Heat select Jaylon Tyson, shooting guard, University of California".

Devin Carter

Yeah if they traded that far, they're taking Carter. Tyson will be there at 15

[DayofMourning]

"Detroit has traded the 5th pick in the draft to the Miami Heat. With the 5th pick, the Heat select Jaylon Tyson, shooting guard, University of California".

Devin Carter

Maybe Castle?

[RexBoyWonder]

Zero chance we move up to #5

it's the worst draft to do that, decent chance player from #15 will be considered better then player #5 after a year.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Zero chance we move up to #5

it's the worst draft to do that, decent chance player from #15 will be considered better then player #5 after a year.

It's not about just moving up to 5 it's about compensation for a player we might be trying to get off of like Herro. Herro and the 15th pick might get a team like the Pistons to bite on. We are trying to figure out how to relieve our cap deficiencies while also getting a suitable cheap replacement for Herro.