**NBA Draft Discussion 2025**

[MettaWorldPanda]

So whos the PGs available to the Heat in their range? Jeremiah Fear, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, Ben Saraf, Boogie Fland, & Sergio de Larrea? From the little bit of film I've seen, I like them all lol. I particularly like Fear and Fland, they seem to really have that self creation and burst nobody else on the team has, along without being totally lost on defense.

Boogie is scary.

Shoots 39%. Does he defend at an NBA level?

Havent watched a lot, but heard he cant finish at the rim.

Some of these PG’s are absolute tooth picks and raw lotto ticket Euro’s. I like Fears but after that the PG spot seems like a true crapshoot. Seems loaded with lots of players who don’t profile as good defenders.

[twix2500]

So whos the PGs available to the Heat in their range? Jeremiah Fear, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, Ben Saraf, Boogie Fland, & Sergio de Larrea? From the little bit of film I've seen, I like them all lol. I particularly like Fear and Fland, they seem to really have that self creation and burst nobody else on the team has, along without being totally lost on defense.

Boogie is scary.

Shoots 39%. Does he defend at an NBA level?

Havent watched a lot, but heard he cant finish at the rim.

Some of these PG’s are absolute tooth picks and raw lotto ticket Euro’s. I like Fears but after that the PG spot seems like a true crapshoot. Seems loaded with lots of players who don’t profile as good defenders.

Labaron Philon has show good defensive potential. The problem is so many one and done players in the NIL system. The prospect development is not the same process because the coaches and the players have different agendas now. Its was already impossible to develop a player that is one and done, then you add the money into it.

[lastb1ckman]

So whos the PGs available to the Heat in their range? Jeremiah Fear, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, Ben Saraf, Boogie Fland, & Sergio de Larrea? From the little bit of film I've seen, I like them all lol. I particularly like Fear and Fland, they seem to really have that self creation and burst nobody else on the team has, along without being totally lost on defense.

Boogie is scary.

Shoots 39%. Does he defend at an NBA level?

Havent watched a lot, but heard he cant finish at the rim.

He's out for the season after hand surgery, which I suspect affected his shooting this season. form wise he looks good pretty good.

[greg4012]

So whos the PGs available to the Heat in their range? Jeremiah Fear, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, Ben Saraf, Boogie Fland, & Sergio de Larrea? From the little bit of film I've seen, I like them all lol. I particularly like Fear and Fland, they seem to really have that self creation and burst nobody else on the team has, along without being totally lost on defense.

Boogie is scary.

Shoots 39%. Does he defend at an NBA level?

Havent watched a lot, but heard he cant finish at the rim.

Pretty concerning level of rim finishing at 36% (20% of his attempts at the rim). Seems to be a good jumpshooter tho.

[lastb1ckman]

So whos the PGs available to the Heat in their range? Jeremiah Fear, Egor Demin, Nolan Traore, Ben Saraf, Boogie Fland, & Sergio de Larrea? From the little bit of film I've seen, I like them all lol. I particularly like Fear and Fland, they seem to really have that self creation and burst nobody else on the team has, along without being totally lost on defense.

Boogie is scary.

Shoots 39%. Does he defend at an NBA level?

Havent watched a lot, but heard he cant finish at the rim.

Some of these PG’s are absolute tooth picks and raw lotto ticket Euro’s. I like Fears but after that the PG spot seems like a true crapshoot. Seems loaded with lots of players who don’t profile as good defenders.

That's the thing about the PGs at this level in the draft, they're all talented but they're gonna be projects. None of them will probably be ready to play their first season. However, they do bring offensive skills and physical tools nobody on this team has. I think that's worth developing at this point instead of trying to force a SG or forward into the PG role for the millionth year in a row.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Boogie is scary.

Shoots 39%. Does he defend at an NBA level?

Havent watched a lot, but heard he cant finish at the rim.

Some of these PG’s are absolute tooth picks and raw lotto ticket Euro’s. I like Fears but after that the PG spot seems like a true crapshoot. Seems loaded with lots of players who don’t profile as good defenders.

That's the thing about the PGs at this level in the draft, they're all talented but they're gonna be projects. None of them will probably be ready to play their first season. However, they do bring offensive skills and physical tools nobody on this team has. I think that's worth developing at this point instead of trying to force a SG or forward into the PG role for the millionth year in a row.

If Fears is off the board we should just go BPA and look to trade for a more established PG. The more i look at this draft i would not be opposed going to a lengthy 3 point shooting athletic wing who can play some D. Preferably would like a more physical and athletic PF and defensive upgrade over Jovic and a bigger more lengthy athletic wing over Jaquez
.This team needs more athletes who can power to the rim. For all the good Jovic brings he still remains wildly inconsistent and his softness taking it to the rim is beyond annoying for a 6’10 player. Jaquez for his size needs to be a dead eye 3 point shooter but he hasn’t been able to find that type of touch on his shot and don’t think he’ll ever get there at this point. Jovic and JJJ are prime trade pieces next year for a PG. Especially with Jovic contract coming up.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[lastb1ckman]

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Collin Murray-Boyles is definitely an interesting prospect, who I think will have a good career in the NBA. But I do wonder how he would even fit on the Heat. He's a great and super versatile defender, but plays like a center on offense at 6'7". Very limited perimeter skills and doesn't shoot the 3 well at all. One comp I see is Draymond Green. Where would a draymond green type fit on a team with Bam and Ware out there?

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Super high upside with this one. Just not sure if Riley is going to have the patience

[MettaWorldPanda]

The more i study this draft the more likely hood i see us making a major trade for an established player with these picks unless we find ourselves in the top 10 in this draft. I don’t see us taking swings on 4 year project 18 year old Euro players. Riley wants to win before he retires. Chips will be cashed in next year to give Bam, Herro, and Wiggins core a shot.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Watch Spurs get Flagg now with Wemby out

[DayofMourning]

Is Jace Richardson a point?

[DayofMourning]

Khaman at 11. SDL at 14?

[greg4012]

Some of these PG’s are absolute tooth picks and raw lotto ticket Euro’s. I like Fears but after that the PG spot seems like a true crapshoot. Seems loaded with lots of players who don’t profile as good defenders.

That's the thing about the PGs at this level in the draft, they're all talented but they're gonna be projects. None of them will probably be ready to play their first season. However, they do bring offensive skills and physical tools nobody on this team has. I think that's worth developing at this point instead of trying to force a SG or forward into the PG role for the millionth year in a row.

If Fears is off the board we should just go BPA and look to trade for a more established PG. The more i look at this draft i would not be opposed going to a lengthy 3 point shooting athletic wing who can play some D. Preferably would like a more physical and athletic PF and defensive upgrade over Jovic and a bigger more lengthy athletic wing over Jaquez
.This team needs more athletes who can power to the rim. For all the good Jovic brings he still remains wildly inconsistent and his softness taking it to the rim is beyond annoying for a 6’10 player. Jaquez for his size needs to be a dead eye 3 point shooter but he hasn’t been able to find that type of touch on his shot and don’t think he’ll ever get there at this point. Jovic and JJJ are prime trade pieces next year for a PG. Especially with Jovic contract coming up.

You may just be talkin Carter Bryant

[greg4012]

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Super high upside with this one. Just not sure if Riley is going to have the patience

He's barely even talked about as a 1st round pick, but this dude just might be the sleeper value that proves to be one of the better players from this draft.

Some mystery involved with him getting limited minutes for a very talented and competitive Valencia squad. But if his 3 ball is what it has been for the past season and he's legitimately 6'6 then wow there is a lot to work with given his floor vision and playmaking.

Snippet I previously shared:

A little more on a Euro guard prospect that I have a hunch might just have lotto talent:

Sergio de Larrea is 19 year old Spanish 6'6 PG playing for a strong/deep Valencia squad against high level competition in the top Spanish league (ACB) and Eurocup.

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Playing limited minutes (12 mpg) but making the most of them with per 36 numbers of 16.2 pts, 7.8 ast, 6.7 reb, 2.2 stocks on excellent efficiency -- 50.5% FG, 45% 3pt, 76% ft [63% ts; 60% efg]

A little more context on how well Sergio is playing on a very good and deep Valencia team:

- Sergio is 3rd on the team in points per minute (and also 3rd on the team in Usg%) in ACB games
- Sergio is tied for first on the team in points per play (1.4) in ACB games
- Sergio has the 4th best DRTG in ACB games on the Valencia team among the regular rotation players as the youngest player on the squad

On tape, I see a jumbo PG with real playmaking chops and full court vision that has a pure stroke (a little slow), solid athleticism, some defensive versatility and a lack of glaring weaknesses. He doesn't seem to have a very explosive first step, but he gets to his spots on the court and makes some great plays.

If his size and 3 ball are as legit as they seem this season, then I'm not sure what's holding Sergio back from being a lotto talent.

Here's a statistical profile comparison to some other recent young prospects that played in high level European leagues and Giddey (I believe Sergio has faced better competition than the rest this season):

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=sergio-de-larrea--ben-saraf--zaccharie-risacher--nikola-topic--josh-giddey

The sample is low with his mpg so hard to know how real the 3 ball is. IMO it's pretty critical for his 3 ball to be real in order for him to distinguish his trajectory from past young Euro guards like Maledon, Balmero, etc. Unfortunately, Sergio is now out for a few weeks with a dislocated left shoulder.

[greg4012]

My other favorite sleeper guard seems to keep getting stronger as the season goes on
 

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[lastb1ckman]

Is Jace Richardson a point?

Ehhhhhhhhhh, maybe the same way Gabe Vincent and Dru Smith are points. Two way guard that doesn't need the ball alot.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Becoming an early favorite for me. Most logical to be had in the late lotto and mid teens.

[greg4012]

My other favorite sleeper guard seems to keep getting stronger as the season goes on
 

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I'm a sucker for any prospect that has the combination of inside and outside efficient scoring that Wooley displays. Dude takes 48% of his FGA at the rim (80% self-created) and finishes relatively efficiently (61%). Those numbers are outstanding for a freshman guard.

The only starting NBA guards that produced an equal or higher % of their FGA at the rim in their freshmen college seasons were SGA (48%) and Ja (54%). Both shot around 60% at the rim as freshman. Neither were volume efficient 3 pt shooters.

Pair that with the fact that Wooley is shooting 42% from 3 on the season on over 5 attempts per game and Wooley is in rare air. [Worth noting he's also shooting 40% on other 2s, which he takes very rarely]

The only freshmen in the nation that are shooting over 37% from 3 on over 7 3PA per 100 AND have over 100 rim attempts on the season (converting over 55%) are Cooper Flagg, Adrian Wooley, and Ian Jackson.

Only 46 freshmen have hit those thresholds since 2008. If you increase the rim attempt threshold to 120 FGA at the rim, then there are only 16 freshmen that have hit those numbers since 2008. 7 of them were first round picks. Cooper Flagg and Adrian Wooley are 2 of the other 9. Wooley has the 4th highest assist percentage, the 6th highest steal %, and 5th highest 3 pt % of this group of 16.

His competition is questionable and he needs to become better at using his right hand, but damn this dude is currently a super sleeper IMO.

[greg4012]

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Becoming an early favorite for me. Most logical to be had in the late lotto and mid teens.

I'm definitely a fan, as well. Love his shooting from all 3 levels--esp his finishing package around the rim. I do wonder about his size. Is he legit 6'3 or closer to 6'1? Maybe he just has a short neck. His arms look long.

Would love to see more onball work for Jase. Currently tracking for 60% of his FG being assisted this season.

I currently see each of Fears, Wooley, and Jase as similar tier guard prospects. Need to learn more about each and see how the seasons play out.