2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

[NightWatch]

What’s the sentiment on Durant trade to Heat? Would you guys seriously give up Ware for a 37 years old all star?

[Kobewade11]

Deadlines are the great influencer in negotiations, I’d be shocked if this doesn’t go right up until the night before the draft.

Phoenix is going to have to take a deal that they dont like, its just a matter of which one. I visited a few boards to get a pulse of what potential packages look like and no team is all in. Houston doesnt want to part with Jabari, SA is reluctant to move Sochan, and we obviously dont want to include Ware. Suns holding out as long as they can to see if somebody folds

[DayofMourning]

What’s the sentiment on Durant trade to Heat? Would you guys seriously give up Ware for a 37 years old all star?

Giving up Ware would defeat the purpose.

We need what we have now, minus the big contract low contributors, and Durant. Not winning a chip unless we have all that.

[contract]

My prediction is, the Suns will slow down trade talks if they dont get the amount of picks and correct expirings to match Durant’s expirings..

The GM can slow all the way down to the trade deadline and get a desperate team that thinks Durant is the missing piece to trade with..


Dark horse teams that Durant probably never considered going to like the Magic or the pistons have an abundance of assets to trade. Thats what the Suns want.

Weve been in this situation before tho where we have massively overpaid for a player to come here.. i just want the Heat not to do something so blatantly stupid for a 37 year old basketball player.

Im trading every bad contract weve got, which is wiggins and kyle, dumcan robinson and ill budge with the 20th pick and add it to the package… thats it

The big issue is even if an "outsider" team wanted to make a better offer, Durant may not sign an extension with them, play out the year, and leave. Unless Durant agrees to sign an extension, teams are not going to make massive offers for a 1-year rental. Durant got out ahead of this by leaking he'd only sign extensions with Houston, San Antonio, and Miami.

He's 37 years old. Acquiring him as a 1 year rental is the dream scenario.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Staying tuned per usual.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Hoops3355]

Quite a clear situation:

- Suns not happy with the Heat offer and want more
- Heat not willing to pay more

Looks like Dame, but this is different, because KD is on an expiring.
Lets hope this goes through with smth. like Wiggins/Terry/#20/Jaquez, almost all the scraps I barely care for
Realistically it's probably a bit more but we'll see.

Swap maybe. I just don’t but our willingness to move off Jovic especially if he’s willing to take a 3/30 extension. So agree with that package. Billionaires don’t burn 200m like that.

[greg4012]

My prediction is, the Suns will slow down trade talks if they dont get the amount of picks and correct expirings to match Durant’s expirings..

The GM can slow all the way down to the trade deadline and get a desperate team that thinks Durant is the missing piece to trade with..


Dark horse teams that Durant probably never considered going to like the Magic or the pistons have an abundance of assets to trade. Thats what the Suns want.

Weve been in this situation before tho where we have massively overpaid for a player to come here.. i just want the Heat not to do something so blatantly stupid for a 37 year old basketball player.

Im trading every bad contract weve got, which is wiggins and kyle, dumcan robinson and ill budge with the 20th pick and add it to the package… thats it

The big issue is even if an "outsider" team wanted to make a better offer, Durant may not sign an extension with them, play out the year, and leave. Unless Durant agrees to sign an extension, teams are not going to make massive offers for a 1-year rental. Durant got out ahead of this by leaking he'd only sign extensions with Houston, San Antonio, and Miami.

He's 37 years old. Acquiring him as a 1 year rental is the dream scenario.

I feel ya. But the price of admission is not lining up to be commensurate with a 1-year rental already. So it's doubtful it endsup that a team swoops in to pay more than what is being offered just to get him for 1 year

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[greg4012]

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Has anyone mapped out what a trade between Miami, PHX, and BKN could look like?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Wiggins
Duncan
2025 (20th pick) or
Jovic and Larrson (54.5 mil)

or


JJJ and Keshad Johnson (53.9) mil

To

Kevin Durant’s 54.7 mil

Current legal frameworks for KD trade.

[batterybro42]

I may feel differently but I’m not against giving up Ware for the same reason I wouldn’t lose my mind if Bam got traded for an A1 star. Bam and Ware as a two big combo is clunky and does not fit what our Coach wants to do. Bam needs to play the 5 to be all that he can be. He can exist in 5 out functions as a 5 he can’t do it with another big who can’t properly space or attack a close out. It jams the lane too much and stagnates the offense we saw it all year.

If KD is here he needs to be playing the 4 and he’s basically Spos wet dream of what a 4 should be in our attack.

If they want Ware we need to try to see if it can be Rozier, Duncan, and Ware

Davion
Herro
Wiggins
KD
Bam

Dru
JJJ
Jovic
Highsmith
Pele
Keshad

This is a good start

[Vertical Limit]

My prediction is, the Suns will slow down trade talks if they dont get the amount of picks and correct expirings to match Durant’s expirings..

The GM can slow all the way down to the trade deadline and get a desperate team that thinks Durant is the missing piece to trade with..


Dark horse teams that Durant probably never considered going to like the Magic or the pistons have an abundance of assets to trade. Thats what the Suns want.

Weve been in this situation before tho where we have massively overpaid for a player to come here.. i just want the Heat not to do something so blatantly stupid for a 37 year old basketball player.

Im trading every bad contract weve got, which is wiggins and kyle, dumcan robinson and ill budge with the 20th pick and add it to the package… thats it

The big issue is even if an "outsider" team wanted to make a better offer, Durant may not sign an extension with them, play out the year, and leave. Unless Durant agrees to sign an extension, teams are not going to make massive offers for a 1-year rental. Durant got out ahead of this by leaking he'd only sign extensions with Houston, San Antonio, and Miami.

Not giving him an extension may be for the best. He is turning 37 with an extensive injury history.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Happy Father’s Day fam!! Poppa KD will be here soon

[jbsays]

KD, Bam, and Ware doesn't really make sense for a front court... does it?

[Vertical Limit]

Kawhi Leonard in his prime was traded for Derozan, Poelti and a top 20 protected pick to the Raptors. For a one year rental for a title run.

Some team will give up a first for a year rental of Durant.

With that said if kawhis prime is one first, we not giving up more than one first for 37 year old durant. **** no we better not give up more than one first

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I may feel differently but I’m not against giving up Ware for the same reason I wouldn’t lose my mind if Bam got traded for an A1 star. Bam and Ware as a two big combo is clunky and does not fit what our Coach wants to do. Bam needs to play the 5 to be all that he can be. He can exist in 5 out functions as a 5 he can’t do it with another big who can’t properly space or attack a close out. It jams the lane too much and stagnates the offense we saw it all year.

If KD is here he needs to be playing the 4 and he’s basically Spos wet dream of what a 4 should be in our attack.

If they want Ware we need to try to see if it can be Rozier, Duncan, and Ware

Davion
Herro
Wiggins
KD
Bam

Dru
JJJ
Jovic
Highsmith
Pele
Keshad

This is a good start

We were the 2nd best defense in the league last year when Bam/Ware shared the floor together. As for shooting, Bam shot 45% from 3 on over 3 attempts a game post ASB and while Ware fell off shooting wise as the season went on I’d guess both are getting tons of reps this summer. Our shooting is better than it was during the Jimmy era considering Spo wasn’t allowing Bam to shoot 3s yet and Jimmy basically refused to most nights. Now everyone in the lineup will pull the open jumper

[SerialChiller]

KD, Bam, and Ware doesn't really make sense for a front court... does it?

Why not? We'd actually have amazing size for a change...I like it. We were already playing Bam and Ware together some, Ware will be another year older so hopefully a bit better and stronger. And you add KDs elite shooting and scoring to that, what doesn't make sense? But knowing Spo Ware would probably come off the bench or barely play with Bam anyways...

[greg4012]

KD, Bam, and Ware doesn't really make sense for a front court... does it?

How does it not?