Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 3

[AirP.]

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Wonder who they would have in mind

My guess would be a star with only a limited amount of great years left to give Riley a chance at being a strong or leading contender for the next 1-3 years at that time. We're now a year past that time and with that Herro has proven himself as a scorer more this year and of course Oladipo looks to have the physical ability to get back to where he once was so that would probably eliminate adding a scoring guard. Last year Miami probably moves Herro in a package for Beal(I'm not a fan of all offense, no real defense), the only way something like that is still alive is that Herro is bad/exposed in the playoffs when defenses tighten down. I personally wouldn't even consider Beal with a contract he has, I like more diversified games, not just offensive players unless they're DOMINATE scorers.

[Beenie]

Beal isn't enough of an upgrade to warrant the age and contract deficiency.

Herro's development has closed the gap somewhat.

If it's Mitchell or Dame, that's a different story.

[wade44]

Tyler isn’t that far off from Beak. I’m not even considering giving up Herro plus the farm or even Herro alone. Let me know if Utah comes knocking with Mitchell even though that’s very unlikely. Lillard is probably the guy Pat is circling if anything were to happen. I’m fine with building around Herro/Bam core if not

[AirP.]

Beal isn't enough of an upgrade to warrant the age and contract deficiency.

Herro's development has closed the gap somewhat.

If it's Mitchell or Dame, that's a different story.

Right, but a year ago it may have been, since then Beal has used up one of his last few prime years while Herro went from a young potential scorer to a more proven young scorer, the goalposts have moved in a year on both players.

Another disappointing playoffs could make Mitchell available but I could see them more wanting to move the older guys and retool around Michell but who knows, they may like getting 3 years younger going from Mitchell to Herro while retooling.

[Beenie]

Beal isn't enough of an upgrade to warrant the age and contract deficiency.

Herro's development has closed the gap somewhat.

If it's Mitchell or Dame, that's a different story.

Right, but a year ago it may have been, since then Beal has used up one of his last few prime years while Herro went from a young potential scorer to a more proven young scorer, the goalposts have moved in a year on both players.

Another disappointing playoffs could make Mitchell available but I could see them more wanting to move the older guys and retool around Michell but who knows, they may like getting 3 years younger going from Mitchell to Herro while retooling.

Utah isnt willfulling trading Mitchell, pretty obviously.

He's gonna have to want out.

The Lillard situation is a little more intriguing because Portland seemingly needs to make a big splash this offseason to demonstrate that they intend to compete for a chip. They are so far off from being in that position at the moment that it lends to the notion that Lillard will eventually want out.

[AirP.]

Utah isnt willfulling trading Mitchell, pretty obviously.

He's gonna have to want out.

The Lillard situation is a little more intriguing because Portland seemingly needs to make a big splash this offseason to demonstrate that they intend to compete for a chip. They are so far off from being in that position at the moment that it lends to the notion that Lillard will eventually want out.

Maybe with Mitchell, they may have a situation between Gobert and Mitchell and while MItchell is the better player, what are you really getting for Gobert on his contract?

Lillard is almost 32 and although he could be good running a team for the next 3-4 years I'm not sure it's worth a max. If Miami wanted to go after him they'd have to move Lowry to a 3rd team that Lowry would be good with(can't sign a FA who had options then move him somewhere he doesn't want to go).

Keep this in mind, both Herro and Oladipo will think they should start next year and Oladipo is an unrestricted free agent that Miami has Bird rights on but he could leave for nothing if he doesn't like the situation. This summer is going to be complicated for Miami if they don't win the championship.

[MiamiSun]

An X factor with Herro is he has a fan base and sells tickets. There are many players that are good but nobody would pay to see them play. That is an extra value with Herro. I think this may/has play a role in deciding his future. Utah would love to have him as he would fit that market very well but we have a bunch of good players and I think it's debatable as to which ones if any sell tickets like Herro.

[Flash4thewin]

Herro will be fighting for a Max extension. Granted his Max is not that bad and means we have a trade asset signed long term which would make a trading company happy.

[Beenie]

Utah isnt willfulling trading Mitchell, pretty obviously.

He's gonna have to want out.

The Lillard situation is a little more intriguing because Portland seemingly needs to make a big splash this offseason to demonstrate that they intend to compete for a chip. They are so far off from being in that position at the moment that it lends to the notion that Lillard will eventually want out.

Maybe with Mitchell, they may have a situation between Gobert and Mitchell and while MItchell is the better player, what are you really getting for Gobert on his contract?

Lillard is almost 32 and although he could be good running a team for the next 3-4 years I'm not sure it's worth a max. If Miami wanted to go after him they'd have to move Lowry to a 3rd team that Lowry would be good with(can't sign a FA who had options then move him somewhere he doesn't want to go).

Keep this in mind, both Herro and Oladipo will think they should start next year and Oladipo is an unrestricted free agent that Miami has Bird rights on but he could leave for nothing if he doesn't like the situation. This summer is going to be complicated for Miami if they don't win the championship.

Mitchell has already once expressed dissatisfaction with Gobert regarding the covid transmission.

I have no idea how their relationship is, whether they are close off the court, or what have you.

But if they keep getting bounced, it's certainly possible that Mitchell could grow impatient. It's Utah afterall.

About Dame, I dont see why Mia would have to ship off Lowry. Math wise, Mia could extend Herro and package his new salary with Duncan's to get the numbers aligned and perhaps tweek things with salary kickers. (I'm actually assuming that Herro's proposed extension would kick in next year and be available to trade but I dont really know the rules around that)

[Kobewade11]

Mitchell is probably the only win now star I’d consider moving Herro for. I’m excluding the players that other teams obviously wouldn’t consider trading ie: Kd, giannis, etc. Honestly we just need to dump Duncan and give Herro the keys in the starting lineup. No more of this “gravity” crap keeping our best scorer on the bench.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Read this thread if you somehow have any doubt.

[DayofMourning]

I just realized... I got demoted to rookie status... who did that PUTIN?? jeje
You cant freely express your opinions or was it a mistake?

Yeah, you messed up big time al. All the mods had to get together and deliberate. I would've rather spent my free time with my family, but I had to attend the ruling on your case. I hope you learn from this and come back as a better poster.

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[IggieCC]

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great timing coz Tucker looking like he needs a week off

[El Alonzo scowl]

Happy to finally be at full strength 1 through 15

[BadMofoPimp]

Not a fan of moving Herro for about anyone outside another young superstar level building talent. Just not worth it. Mitchell is that, but not sure of anyone else.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I love the chemistry this team has.

[dshearn]

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I love the chemistry this team has.

I do too.....

I tend to pick on the ones i love as well and i always thought it creates a safe space to say things that have to be said in both directions and not alienate others. Most of it is far over the top and becomes humor because it can't be true...but some times there is a glimmer of truth to it and because it is 99% hogwash it becomes a joke with a nudge of the truth it.

You have to have people that reciprocate that mentality or its like oil and water. I can see how jimmy has rubbed people the wrong way in the past. I would bet some serious money he has pissed off past girl friends on an epic scale.

I think public jokes like that, and Max's kid like grin just reinforce what we think we know about this team. These guys really like each other. Forget the team sucess, these Heat players are soo easy to root for.

[somerandomdude]

Heat are 11-1 when Duncan Robinson scores 20 or more points.

Tired of us saying that we need to give him the keys. He needs to take that motherf

All kidding aside, the keys are already in the right hands.

Bam had 16 shots tonight and only created 4 of them on his own.

11 of his shots were created by Butler, Lowry, and Herro feeding him easy buckets or getting him open looks, while the last FGA was a putback.

Bam is largely a finisher and we should continue to create for him and feed him easy buckets, but handing him the keys? No, that'd be like taking the keys from Nash and giving it to Amare. Recognize that the majority of his offense comes from others creating for him.