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Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend

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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1401 » by Hallstar » Tue Aug 2, 2022 4:54 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Posting defensive rim protection numbers to try and discredit Bams defensive in a post also trying to boost Herro is hilarious. Especially when you consider the bigs listed in the tweet mostly just sit at the rim with their hands up and don’t impact the defense in the many different areas that Bam does lol.

Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1402 » by Hallstar » Tue Aug 2, 2022 4:56 pm

greg4012 wrote:Heat's defensive scheme has a primary focus of not letting teams into the paint. Serving different metrics that do more to feed overall defensive effectiveness


Yet there are teams that attempt to mix it up, there can be a happy medium between posted up in the paint and running all over the court for 82 games plus playoffs
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1403 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:13 pm

Hallstar wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Posting defensive rim protection numbers to try and discredit Bams defensive in a post also trying to boost Herro is hilarious. Especially when you consider the bigs listed in the tweet mostly just sit at the rim with their hands up and don’t impact the defense in the many different areas that Bam does lol.

Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.


Your agenda is HEAVY, no need in hiding. Definitely not on that little thing. I just find it funny that you only post when Herro is involved and act like he’s going to be the best player in Heat history
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1404 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:17 pm

Hallstar wrote:Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.

I came to see if there was any news and see you throwing haymakers :lol: :lol:
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1405 » by Hallstar » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:18 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Hallstar wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Posting defensive rim protection numbers to try and discredit Bams defensive in a post also trying to boost Herro is hilarious. Especially when you consider the bigs listed in the tweet mostly just sit at the rim with their hands up and don’t impact the defense in the many different areas that Bam does lol.

Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.


Your agenda is HEAVY, no need in hiding. Definitely not on that little thing. I just find it funny that you only post when Herro is involved and act like he’s going to be the best player in Heat history

You only post when you're swinging from Bam's nuts or talking crap about Herro.

So saying Herro could develop into Devin friggin Booker is him being the best player in Heat history? Your HEat history obviously started with Bam.

Before Herro was a concept I said we need to modify this scatterbrain defense...people have been saying that for a decade.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1406 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:20 pm

Those headshot plots piss me off. Can barely identify players unless I zoom in to like 5000% and even then you can't see half the players all clustered together
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1407 » by Hallstar » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:21 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
Hallstar wrote:Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.

I came to see if there was any news and see you throwing haymakers :lol: :lol:


Everything just has to be sidetracked with this dude man....it's ridiculous
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1408 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:23 pm

Hallstar wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Hallstar wrote:Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.


Your agenda is HEAVY, no need in hiding. Definitely not on that little thing. I just find it funny that you only post when Herro is involved and act like he’s going to be the best player in Heat history

You only post when you're swinging from Bam's nuts or talking crap about Herro.

So saying Herro could develop into Devin friggin Booker is him being the best player in Heat history? Your HEat history obviously started with Bam.

Before Herro was a concept I said we need to modify this scatterbrain defense...people have been saying that for a decade.


Nope, I post much more than that and I back discussion with context and numbers outside of “look at Herro at 22 compared to Curry at 22” type of debates that the Herro fans cling to.

My Heat history started with Wade and Herro will never be better than Bam at any point of his career.

This defense is among the best in the league every season, I promise you don’t know more than Spo
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1409 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:23 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
Hallstar wrote:Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.

I came to see if there was any news and see you throwing haymakers :lol: :lol:


Ahhh the ol piggyback
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Post#1410 » by greg4012 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:24 pm

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greg4012 wrote:Heat's defensive scheme has a primary focus of not letting teams into the paint. Serving different metrics that do more to feed overall defensive effectiveness


Yet there are teams that attempt to mix it up, there can be a happy medium between posted up in the paint and running all over the court for 82 games plus playoffs


And they all did better than Miami this year, huh?

Available personnel drives approach. THere are specific playstyles that are conducive to playoff success. Would it be nice to just be able to optimize multiple players and playstyles for different approaches during season and playoffs? Sure. Unfortunately there's a salary cap and roster cap. It's important to serve the end game though.

If Miami runs with the current personnel on roster, then I bet we see a mix of playstyles with Bam running with another big more during regular season--like we did during 2019-2020 season before the trade and playoffs.

What are you trying to get at here?
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Post#1411 » by greg4012 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:26 pm

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Kobewade11 wrote:
Hallstar wrote:Where did I mention Herro or Bam? Man you need to seriously....and I mean seriously hop off my dick. I post something outside of fantasy trades and the first word out of your mouth is about boosting Herro. Just take some time off.

I came to see if there was any news and see you throwing haymakers :lol: :lol:


Everything just has to be sidetracked with this dude man....it's ridiculous


Both of you are crazy guilty of the same dynamic
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1412 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:27 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Ahhh the ol piggyback

Dont worry about me, worry about Hallstar jumping on your ass like a trampoline
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1413 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:28 pm

greg4012 wrote:
Hallstar wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:I came to see if there was any news and see you throwing haymakers :lol: :lol:


Everything just has to be sidetracked with this dude man....it's ridiculous


Both of you are crazy guilty of the same dynamic


Do I maybe go overboard defending the dumb stuff said about our franchise cornerstone? Yes. Do I post about more than just Bam and provide actual discussion? Yes.

This dude literally only posts about Herro, we are not the same
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1414 » by Hallstar » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:28 pm

And yet most years, at some point we look worn down. That does not happen to every team.

We also won 2 rings instead of a possible 3peat when the bottom fell completely out defensively..

Why are people suggesting Myles Turner? To keep scrambling for 48 mins?
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1415 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:30 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Ahhh the ol piggyback

Dont worry about me, worry about Hallstar jumping on your ass like a trampoline


Dude basically said a bunch of nothing, you guys just gang up on here because I’ve called you out in the past on one of your terrible takes.

I’m sure you’ll be messaging me shortly talking crazy and telling me to block you again :lol:
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1416 » by Hallstar » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:30 pm

greg4012 wrote:
Hallstar wrote:
greg4012 wrote:Heat's defensive scheme has a primary focus of not letting teams into the paint. Serving different metrics that do more to feed overall defensive effectiveness


Yet there are teams that attempt to mix it up, there can be a happy medium between posted up in the paint and running all over the court for 82 games plus playoffs


And they all did better than Miami this year, huh?

Available personnel drives approach. THere are specific playstyles that are conducive to playoff success. Would it be nice to just be able to optimize multiple players and playstyles for different approaches during season and playoffs? Sure. Unfortunately there's a salary cap and roster cap. It's important to serve the end game though.

If Miami runs with the current personnel on roster, then I bet we see a mix of playstyles with Bam running with another big more during regular season--like we did during 2019-2020 season before the trade and playoffs.

What are you trying to get at here?

That we should be trying to look at approaches that don't wear down players before the playoffs. The amt of missed games this year might have been beneficial to some players
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1417 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:45 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I’m sure you’ll be messaging me shortly talking crazy and telling me to block you again :lol:

Nah I dont need to message you no more dude, in fact I rarely engage with you directly these days cause I can just sit back and enjoy the show lol.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

Post#1418 » by greg4012 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:56 pm

Hallstar wrote:And yet most years, at some point we look worn down. That does not happen to every team.

We also won 2 rings instead of a possible 3peat when the bottom fell completely out defensively..

Why are people suggesting Myles Turner? To keep scrambling for 48 mins?


There's two sides to the coin. How many franchises have had more success than Miami over this timeframe? Yes we've dealt with injuries and worn down, but is Dragic getting hurt really because of our style of play?

Attributing big 3 not having more than 2 rings to the defensive approach is beyond silly.

Seems our defensive playstyle and size becomes a bit of a boogeyman for fans to point to for all and any issues.

We have not played the same exact defensive scheme from the big 3 era to now.

Success in modern NBA basketball at the highest level is largely dictated by ability to execute and apply pressure on every inch of the court in a cohesive way. Spacing is more than just the 3-ball. It is accounting for advantage and opportunity on every part of the court. That's Spo's focus.

The scheme is constantly evolving, but the ability to play playoff basketball with as many players on the court that can apply pressure and react to pressure applied on every part of the court is literally ITEM #1 in importance for winning in the NBA today.

The bigger and longer the players can be while doing that, the better. But Spo isn't going to sacrifice ability to play the full court game for the sake of getting size on the court. If he can do more to marry them, then that's great.
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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

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Re: Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend 

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