Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Part 1 - Can You Feel It?

[Wiltside]

Bam's last 3:

24pts, 14reb, 4ast, 2blk, 2to's in 36mins on 10/16fg and 4/7ft (+20)
21pts, 13reb, 6ast, 3stl, 1blk, 7to's in 41 mins on 7/9fg and 7/9ft (+9)
30pts, 11reb, 11ast, 2stl, 4to's in 43mins on 13/18fg and 4/5ft (+26)

Granted it's vs WAS, CHI and ATL...but still...

Very interested to see how he does against LAL in our next game. Majority of our games vs tough opponents have been on b2b, and I've been tough on Nunn perhaps a little unfairly for his numbers against good teams. I'll need to suss Bam's too.

[Bishop45]

Don't want Lamar, especially if we lose a ballhandler to get him

For JJ/DJJ/Olynyk, yea', I guess

Who is Lamar?

LMA

Don't want neither LMA or Love. You might be able to get me out of my bed for Blake/Randle/Gallinari/Jrue for the right price, but we'd have to reach for those when neither (outside of Blake and some lightning) would jolt us to smelling like a contender.

[Bourne85]

If we WERE to make a trade, the only guy who REALLY makes sense (and is realistically attainable) for how Spo wants to play is Gallanari. Bam at this point is always going to be the ONLY big on the floor on crunch time. Then it's Jimmy, and either 3 other shooters, or 2 shooters + one additional defender who can switch (Winslow, DJJr)

So guys like LMA or Steven Adams just won't be worth it because both make way too much money to be situational players. With Gallo, you're talking 6'10 with deep range with underrated switchability on defense. And he can be used as a post-up player as well. Very versatile player. Perfect fit in between Jimmy and Bam in the front court. But do you want to burn another 1st for a guy who's set to be UFA this summer? OKC is reportedly willing to take on "burdensome salaries" to get more assets. You trade JJ and Waiters + a 2025 First for Gallo, not only do you significantly better your chances to get out of the East, consolidating the salaries, you also get under the luxury tax. And you still have your flexibility to reassess everything in the summer.

This post is a perfect example of why fans should just be fans and let the “pros” do their job.

You want to trade for a 31-soon to be 32yo stand still shooter that happens to be one of the worst defenders in the league only rivaled by Trae Young. Plus will be a free agent next year and are we really gonna waste cap space that we need for 2021. So in one trade we lose a young piece like Winslow or worse Herro cuz your trade of Waiters and JJ is laughable, plus a pick? Lol. we get an aging Kapono with worse defense? Stick to being a mod, sit back and enjoy the show and let the genius GMs handle it bro.

Am I doing it right? Trying to be the cool guy and putting pples post on blast? Your welcome.

[Wiltside]

At this point in the juncture, we're in no real rush to make any deals. We have had two key pieces out for considerable time, and yet we're still getting dubs.

18-6, it's mental.

Granted, I could see it having a LITTLE bit of 30-11 stench about it, but we probably should ride the wave unless there's a deal that really puts us in a stronger position in the years ahead.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Aldridge is really being underrated here. He's a better defender than Love and Griffin and has range. What's wrong with him?

[Wiltside]

Aldridge is really being underrated here. He's a better defender than Love and Griffin and has range. What's wrong with him?

He's not a sexy name anymore. Doesn't shoot the three much (whether by design in the Spurs system, or he chooses not to), is a so-so rebounder and rim protector.

However, when the pace slows down in the playoffs, it's handy having a guy you can throw it too in the midpost and get a decent shot off. He's basically a slightly lesser version of Bosh, as Bosh was elite defensively - particularly hedging on the PnR.

In many respects, it's just a shame CB ain't around to pair with Bam and Butler and cause absolute mayhem.

I'm good to take a punt on LMA if the price is right. But I do still wonder if Spo would play two bigs in the fourth - I can't really see it. In which case, we're probably better off looking for a stretch 4 considering Bam is the likely 5 when it matters.

[DayofMourning]

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm

RPM is now out, and Jimmy and Bam are both top 5 at their positions. You love to see it.

We have 5 players overall in the top 100. Duncan, Justise, and KNunn are the other 3 in addition to Jimmy and Bam.

Bizarre evaluation at this point.

For example, Jokic has been ripped all year long for his supbar play, yet he's the top center?

AD is being hailed as the obvious DPOY, yet he's got a mediocre DRPM?

[Myam333]

He ain’t coming anytime soon. Time to move on I think.

McCollum, though not as good as Beal, would be an exceptional plan B option for Mia.

Should Portland fail to stabilize their tailspin, he could conceivably be made available and wouldn't cost as much as Beal would - meaning, Mia could probably keep Herro and Bam and still get him.

McCollum is just a scorer. He's not efficient and doesn't play defense.

In what world is 45% from the field and 37% from 3 inefficient?

[DayofMourning]

In what world is 45% from the field and 37% from 3 inefficient?

I can't speak for FTH, who can really? However, scoring 21 points a game on 20 shots isn't that good. I'm not the know it all for advanced stats, but I'd say you'd want a guy trending towards 1.5 points per shot, not one point per shot. If you want a guy to just chuck shots, then players like Nunn, Duncan, and Herro fit the bill. They also cost you a lot less. CJ's impact per dollar is exorbitant.

[Yacks84]

What would it would take to land Holiday? I tend to think he is underrated and the thought of him Jimmy and Bam together sounds real nice. He also has a player option in 2021 so possibly still leaves the door open for The Freak should he choose to leave.

Would Nunn OOOOOR Herro, Winslow and JJ do it? Is that too much? Not enough?

Holiday, Goran
Butler, Herro, Waiters
Robinson, DJJ
Bam, Silva
Leonard, KO

[DayofMourning]

What would it would take to land Holiday? I tend to think he is underrated and the thought of him Jimmy and Bam together sounds real nice. He also has a player option in 2021 so possibly still leaves the door open for The Freak should he choose to leave.

Would Nunn AND/OR Herro, Winslow and JJ do it? Is that too much? Not enough?

Holiday, Goran
Butler, Herro, Waiters
Robinson, DJJ
Bam, Silva
Leonard, KO

You'd be willing to trade our two rookies, who've proven to be two of the greatest finds an org could hope for, for Holiday? I like Holiday. He's good. I don't like having two guys who have been killing it as rookies being traded away for a B level player.

Word is, Herro is untradable. Alongside Bam.

I say, don't be in a rush to trade rookie contracts at great value for a B level talent at 26 million a year.

Nunn, JJ, and Waiters for Holiday? Hmmm.

[Yacks84]

Just to clarify, I said “And Or” when referring to Nunn and Herro. Zero chance I would give away both for Holiday. Just want to make sure that isn’t missed as I’m not crazy...not that crazy.

In regards to Holiday being a “B” player. I tend to think of him as a higher caliber talent than that but that’s just me. I think he had gotten lost in the shuffle in New Orleans. New Orleans tends to do that to players.

If we could pull off Nunn, JJ, and Dion as you mention, than Pat truly would be the GOAT.

[Wiltside]

If you use and/or though, you're saying you would include Nunn and (or) Herro. Which means you would've given both up.

Trust you aren't that crazy

[DayofMourning]

If you use and/or though, you're saying you would include Nunn and (or) Herro. Which means you would've given both up.

Trust you aren't that crazy

II think a ban is in order for his gross misuse of grammar. Whadday think future banner holder?

Spoiler:

Just kidding Yacks.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

McCollum, though not as good as Beal, would be an exceptional plan B option for Mia.

Should Portland fail to stabilize their tailspin, he could conceivably be made available and wouldn't cost as much as Beal would - meaning, Mia could probably keep Herro and Bam and still get him.

McCollum is just a scorer. He's not efficient and doesn't play defense.

In what world is 45% from the field and 37% from 3 inefficient?

52.9% true shooting. He's less efficient than Herro and is less of a foul drawer than him. Nunn is basically CJ 2.0.

[Yacks84]

Yea....my bad. Shouldn’t do things while gyming. Not enough oxygen to the brain.

[Myam333]

McCollum is just a scorer. He's not efficient and doesn't play defense.

In what world is 45% from the field and 37% from 3 inefficient?

52.9% true shooting. He's less efficient than Herro and is less of a foul drawer than him. Nunn is basically CJ 2.0.

45 from the field, 37 from 3 and 81 from the line is great. Don't care what 1 measly stat says. TS% is not the end-all be-all.

I have a stat for you. 2nd in RPM among SGs this year.

[Sgt P]

Just to clarify, I said “And Or” when referring to Nunn and Herro. Zero chance I would give away both for Holiday. Just want to make sure that isn’t missed as I’m not crazy...not that crazy.

In regards to Holiday being a “B” player. I tend to think of him as a higher caliber talent than that but that’s just me. I think he had gotten lost in the shuffle in New Orleans. New Orleans tends to do that to players.

If we could pull off Nunn, JJ, and Dion as you mention, than Pat truly would be the GOAT.

What about chemistry? In all these trade candidates we should consider fit. That is the main reason why I would wait until offseason to trade any rotational player.

let's not trade just trade. We need frontcourt help anyway .

[dolphinatik]

Miami Heat #3 in the league with Bostons loss last night

I can feel it

[TMIMITW]

Have we played Healthy once this year? Not counting dion or JJ?

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