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Spacely wrote:greg4012 wrote:Spacely wrote:
and what does that mean?
If you don't extend your arms fully on the standing reach, then it'll allow you to add a boost to your vertical jump number. JJ curiously had the shortest standing reach of any forward+ prospect from this Draft Combine.
Gives the impression of a boost to athleticism.
Really not a big deal, just a savvy way to fudge the numbers a bit.
Is that not cheating?
greg4012 wrote:twix2500 wrote:Heat signs USC 6'8 forward Drew Peterson
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Heat scouts loved the west coast this year
carnageta wrote:When does summer league start? Can't wait to see future Heat legends Nikola Jovic and Triple J play.
greg4012 wrote:Spacely wrote:greg4012 wrote:
If you don't extend your arms fully on the standing reach, then it'll allow you to add a boost to your vertical jump number. JJ curiously had the shortest standing reach of any forward+ prospect from this Draft Combine.
Gives the impression of a boost to athleticism.
Really not a big deal, just a savvy way to fudge the numbers a bit.
Is that not cheating?
Just something that happens sometimes
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:carnageta wrote:When does summer league start? Can't wait to see future Heat legends Nikola Jovic and Triple J play.
Starts Fri, Jul 7, 2023
Really looking forward to seeing Jovic take a step forward this year (unless he's traded)
dolphinatik wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:so whats the word on the undrafted pool?
anyone you like?
I really liked Ricky Council but 76ers got him. Im Meh on the ones we have so far
Justin Powell (G)
Patrick Gardner (C)
Taylor Funk (F)
Caleb Daniels (G)
Drew Peterson (F)
Chalm Downs wrote:his nickname is boywonder ffs
Spacely wrote:Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:carnageta wrote:When does summer league start? Can't wait to see future Heat legends Nikola Jovic and Triple J play.
Starts Fri, Jul 7, 2023
Really looking forward to seeing Jovic take a step forward this year (unless he's traded)
No, Monday July 3rd
Chalm Downs wrote:his nickname is boywonder ffs
HeatIn5 wrote:?s=20
RexBoyWonder wrote:After the initial disappointment, I'm warming up to the pick.
JJJ doesn't have the upside most of the top 20 have, but history shows most of these guys won't reach their upside anyway. He has a very good chance to be a rotation worthy guy much faster then most of the other options.
I think it will come down to his shooting. If he can't become a good NBA 3 point shooter I think he'll be end of rotation guy at best. If his shooting is really as great as our scouts hint - and IF he'll get stronger and play as tough as some expect - then he might be a useful smallball 4 that can shoot, defend, create some on offense and just be well rounded without killing us in any areas.
I just hope there's more then meets the eye with him. Mainly better shooting then the numbers suggest, and better physicality then the measurements suggests.
Well everyone screamed about not wanting a specialist. This is a give or take world.RexBoyWonder wrote:After the initial disappointment, I'm warming up to the pick.
JJJ doesn't have the upside most of the top 20 have, but history shows most of these guys won't reach their upside anyway. He has a very good chance to be a rotation worthy guy much faster then most of the other options.
I think it will come down to his shooting. If he can't become a good NBA 3 point shooter I think he'll be end of rotation guy at best. If his shooting is really as great as our scouts hint - and IF he'll get stronger and play as tough as some expect - then he might be a useful smallball 4 that can shoot, defend, create some on offense and just be well rounded without killing us in any areas.
I just hope there's more then meets the eye with him. Mainly better shooting then the numbers suggest, and better physicality then the measurements suggests.
On paper, Jaquez Jr. did not hit elite shooting levels.”. Apart from shooting 39.4 percent from three his sophomore year, he generally hovered around 30 percent, taking just under three a game. At those percentages, defenders aren’t going to play you.
There are, of course, layers to this. Encouraging layers.
Jaquez Jr.’s effective field-goal percentage on jumpers off the dribble last year, shots he’ll likely take fewer of at the professional level, was 38.1. On catch-and-shoot jumpers, that percentage jumped all the way up to 51.6. Yes, there’s a built-in efficiency boost with those splits since you typically take more threes off the catch, but we’re not done here. On his guarded catch-and-shoot threes, as logged by Synergy, Jaquez Jr. shot 25 percent. On his unguarded catch-and-shoot threes, shots that are more likely to come his way off Miami’s lead engines, he was up to 41.7 percent.
In other words, if you take the star-level shot-creation of his game, Jaquez Jr. was more efficient with role-player shots than the basic numbers might initially indicate.
CrossOver wrote:https://www.nba.com/heat/news/coup-fresh-perspective-jaime-jaquez-jr-draft-heat-fit
A lot of good stuff in the article but this stuck out for people that were initially discouraged by his 3pt shooting %'s.On paper, Jaquez Jr. did not hit elite shooting levels.”. Apart from shooting 39.4 percent from three his sophomore year, he generally hovered around 30 percent, taking just under three a game. At those percentages, defenders aren’t going to play you.
There are, of course, layers to this. Encouraging layers.
Jaquez Jr.’s effective field-goal percentage on jumpers off the dribble last year, shots he’ll likely take fewer of at the professional level, was 38.1. On catch-and-shoot jumpers, that percentage jumped all the way up to 51.6. Yes, there’s a built-in efficiency boost with those splits since you typically take more threes off the catch, but we’re not done here. On his guarded catch-and-shoot threes, as logged by Synergy, Jaquez Jr. shot 25 percent. On his unguarded catch-and-shoot threes, shots that are more likely to come his way off Miami’s lead engines, he was up to 41.7 percent.
In other words, if you take the star-level shot-creation of his game, Jaquez Jr. was more efficient with role-player shots than the basic numbers might initially indicate.
RexBoyWonder wrote:dolphinatik wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:so whats the word on the undrafted pool?
anyone you like?
I really liked Ricky Council but 76ers got him. Im Meh on the ones we have so far
Justin Powell (G)
Patrick Gardner (C)
Taylor Funk (F)
Caleb Daniels (G)
Drew Peterson (F)
Well, I can't say that I like any of those names.
Last year we had at least 3 interesting names out of the undrafted pool, honestly don't think any of these guys have any chance to ever make the team. Disappointing list imo
CrossOver wrote:https://www.nba.com/heat/news/coup-fresh-perspective-jaime-jaquez-jr-draft-heat-fit
A lot of good stuff in the article but this stuck out for people that were initially discouraged by his 3pt shooting %'s.On paper, Jaquez Jr. did not hit elite shooting levels.”. Apart from shooting 39.4 percent from three his sophomore year, he generally hovered around 30 percent, taking just under three a game. At those percentages, defenders aren’t going to play you.
There are, of course, layers to this. Encouraging layers.
Jaquez Jr.’s effective field-goal percentage on jumpers off the dribble last year, shots he’ll likely take fewer of at the professional level, was 38.1. On catch-and-shoot jumpers, that percentage jumped all the way up to 51.6. Yes, there’s a built-in efficiency boost with those splits since you typically take more threes off the catch, but we’re not done here. On his guarded catch-and-shoot threes, as logged by Synergy, Jaquez Jr. shot 25 percent. On his unguarded catch-and-shoot threes, shots that are more likely to come his way off Miami’s lead engines, he was up to 41.7 percent.
In other words, if you take the star-level shot-creation of his game, Jaquez Jr. was more efficient with role-player shots than the basic numbers might initially indicate.
RexBoyWonder wrote:After the initial disappointment, I'm warming up to the pick.
JJJ doesn't have the upside most of the top 20 have, but history shows most of these guys won't reach their upside anyway. He has a very good chance to be a rotation worthy guy much faster then most of the other options.
I think it will come down to his shooting. If he can't become a good NBA 3 point shooter I think he'll be end of rotation guy at best. If his shooting is really as great as our scouts hint - and IF he'll get stronger and play as tough as some expect - then he might be a useful smallball 4 that can shoot, defend, create some on offense and just be well rounded without killing us in any areas.
I just hope there's more then meets the eye with him. Mainly better shooting then the numbers suggest, and better physicality then the measurements suggests.
