Miami Heat 2024 Regular Season - Thread 4.0

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Bam >>> Bosh

Hahaha no.

Yea this is usually about as deep as the responses go because either you don’t know how to make a legit argument backed with anything of substance or well…..you just can’t.

[KingDavid]

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my perspective last night I saw a lot of good things, I need to see them being consistent with them:

1. Jimmy playing peak level, still has game, there is a miniscule loss in speed for sure you can see on the defensive end, but he is still high iq and more than capable of still being our #1 scorer on uber efficiency.

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2. Bam middy wasn't scouted as strong in the beginning of the season and he was feasting, when teams made it a point to give him only that shot diet vs plays at the rim, plus crowed him with multiple players/double/tripple teams it totally has made his January a bad month on FG%, also add a bit here that we need to account for his injury which could be a factor on his mobility to get to his spots, however the Pick & Roll game with Herro, Rozier if used correctly is going to get him going much earlier in the game, and when he starts getting that play it will also open up opportunities for open three pointers as the defense will eventually start playing for the lob and disregarding the ball handler. In the past the Herro/Bam two man game has always been great don't understand why we went away from it as much.

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3. Jimmy two man game with Love, you could tell Jimmy's best Pick and roll is with a big who can screen and shot the 3ball, which is why Jimmy/Bam pick and roll is none existent, staggering Jimmy w/Love & Herro w/Bam is a recipe that will work as long as Herro makes it so that the Lob/pass is the priority in the scheme and then play to the shot when they decide that Bam is the priority after the screen, also Kevin has to hit the 3ball too, for them to respect the Jimmy/Love pick and roll.

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4. The other team were still blowing by our guard tandem in the beginning of the game, Herro/Rozier is a bad defensive combination, Spo however after the first quarter spent the rest of the game making sure those guys were staggered as much as possible, and that Jrich or Caleb were at the off guard defensively moving forward to relieve some point of attack issues on those guys, the back line did a great job as well on rotating, crips rotations were key here, also cannot forget the Zone defense also helped alleviate some issues there. Staggering both of Herro/Rozier allowed them to basically feel comfortable not having to give up the ball distribution ie your turn my turn your turn my turn, etc. You could see that Rozier is far more natural as a distributor as well, I mean he had less time with the ball in his hands, was quick to pass the moment an opening presented itself and managed to get 2 more assist than Herro while having the ball far less.

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5. Role players did their job, and kept their free lancing to a minimum which is where we usually lose and have empty possessions, clearly saw Spo call a time out when Caleb when away, he stills seems a bit gun hoe for my taste, but Spo was quick to pull that cord as soon as it looked like he got to comfortable going free lancing. Both Caleb and Jrich best spots on the defensive side were clear as day as the off-guard/2guard. Their length/wingspan and 6'-5" height is perfect at that position, when those guys are task as primary ball handlers or playing the Forwards positions is when we look bad.

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6. The only thing I still need to understand, I believe Sammy made note of this yesterday after the game is, Rozier's role, because all of the corrections made during yesterdays game primarily could have been made without having Rozier on this team, but a just a 3&D with good court vision at the PG, hell Kyle could have done the same thing except perhaps for being guarded tight for his lack of speed, no longer being able to collapse the paint. If Miami is going to keep Herro and his game will be used the way it was done last night, it would have been better served going after a PF instead of another lead Guard. So I just want to see how Spo finds a way to get Rozier in the Rozier/Love - Rozier/Bam - Rozier/Jimmy pick and roll a bit more and let him go 1v1 to force a collapse at the paint. I understand he still hasn't had a practice with the team as of yet, so there is still some cohesion that needs to still keep filling out with the team and himself.

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7. Size is still an Issue here, we obviously can be successful without Duncan as shown last night, so I think this should be a clear message to the team that perhaps his contract may be best suited to find that starting level PF, as much as I see Highsmith being successful and a great perimeter defender, even when he forces the miss, it results in an offensive rebound and putback, so while the data shows him being good, it may not translate the way we think. We can't always fall back on zone defense as a way to cover for size and speed. Spo will need to know that a lineup based on size, needs to be implemented against the teams that force the issue in that regard, I don't believe that lineup exist yet, or at least he may not feel comfortable with one currently, or that player may not be on the roster yet either.

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Phenomenal post. Agree with it all.

"Miami__Heat coaches should know this. Team is outrebounded. Opposing players are always having mental advantage playing @Miami__Heat. try jovic, bryant, robinson. If they also can not perform, replace them during summer. Imagine what @Calebmartin14 & highsmith can do as G &SF."

This is absolutely true. We're too damn small for too long in games. Just too much to ask of guys shorter than me (6'7") to rebound over and around trees. It is extremely tiring to box out a 7fter at 6'7". I mean it BLASTS your legs and lower back quick af. Think about playing ball and what it would be like if you had to box out or seal someone SEVEN inches shorter than you with a similar frame. It's like warding off a strong child; eventually they will be worn down long before you feel any exhaustion. Now imagine them being SEVEN inches TALLER than you. That is peak exhaustion. You have to have freak-level genetics and strength to physically overcome that disadvantage or be immensely skilled.

Spo has to start utilizing our height somehow or it's just going to be the same song and dance.

[twix2500]

Heat experiment with a unit in the closing mins. Didnt play well but I expect to see Spo continue to work with it. It was mostly get the ball to Duncan Richardson

Rozier, Richardson, Butler, Martin, Adebayo
109.1 Ortg, 145.0 Drgt



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[twix2500]

Highsmith didn't play a single min in the 4 quarter in the Kings game. They stuck with rotating Butler, Martin and Jaquez in the 4th

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[KingDavid]

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Bam >>> Bosh

Hahaha no.

Yea this is usually about as deep as the responses go because either you don’t know how to make a legit argument backed with anything of substance or well…..you just can’t.

I wish they could have played together and that Bosh didn't get those clots. We never got to see him as a 1a/1b w/Wade after LeBron left. Then factoring the change of eras...eh. I can't really compare them anymore. Hope Bam wins lots of chips for us though! He's an incredible player and first ballot HOF at this rate.

Imagine if we had Turner next to him and he gets to play the 4 full time

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Hahaha no.

Yea this is usually about as deep as the responses go because either you don’t know how to make a legit argument backed with anything of substance or well…..you just can’t.

I wish they could have played together and that Bosh didn't get those clots. We never got to see him as a 1a/1b w/Wade after LeBron left. Then factoring the change of eras...eh. I can't really compare them anymore. Hope Bam wins lots of chips for us though! He's an incredible player and first ballot HOF at this rate.

Imagine if we had Turner next to him and he gets to play the 4 full time

Turner has been my top guy for us to get for a long term fit next to Bam but we were just never interested for whatever reason. He was attainable like the last 2-3 years for a 1st and we just refused to do it. It’s a shame

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Also rumor has it that Bam beat up Myles Turner in a team USA practice several years ago and Bam got cut because of it, I think it was before his 1st year becoming a starter iirc so maybe that has something to do with it

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Man, if our front office had this same mindset we’d probably already have one but hopefully we get it done in the Jimmy era and he gets a Finals MVP to go with it. Would be the cherry on top of this era and the perfect bridge into the next (where Jimmy is hopefully still around even if it’s off the bench like Wade).

I just feel like Jimmy is one of the most inspiring players I’ve seen, when the playoffs get here you just always feel like you have a chance. It’s a shame harts dirty play on his ankle had him playing the last 3 rounds on 1 leg

[twix2500]

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How do you feel about Bones Hyland. Better than Hampton?

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[RexBoyWonder]

I like what 'im seeing from Rozier. That zip that he has can't be taught and it's SUPER valuable for us.

The next issue that I see coming back to bite us is size, or lack their of.

I really want Jovic to get consistent minutes, I think having Rozier will help him get open look that he drain, and again, that size and passing that Jovic brings just can't be taught.

If we're not trading for a PF (And I would) then Jovic HAS TO get minutes, we're really missing another big. (Bryant tryouts should be over).

[RexBoyWonder]

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How do you feel about Bones Hyland. Better than Hampton?

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Honestly J. Bouyea and Alondes William are better then Hampton too. We don't need Hyland with Terry here.

[IceColdCubano]

I like what 'im seeing from Rozier. That zip that he has can't be taught and it's SUPER valuable for us.

The next issue that I see coming back to bite us is size, or lack their of.

I really want Jovic to get consistent minutes, I think having Rozier will help him get open look that he drain, and again, that size and passing that Jovic brings just can't be taught.

If we're not trading for a PF (And I would) then Jovic HAS TO get minutes, we're really missing another big. (Bryant tryouts should be over).

I think their giving O. Robinson so much G League time is because they are literally warming him up in the bullpen to get back 10 games before the playoffs to help finish the season and see if those miles/minutes he put in will be beneficial as Spo starts giving guys some rest to close out the season. But Yeah the Bryant tryouts are over with, dude is dud for us, need to move on from him either here before the deadline or after the offseason.

[batterybro42]

If you could get Lebron James for Herro and Robinson man.......

You do that

[Kobewade11]

If you could get Lebron James for Herro and Robinson man.......

You do that

Not only would LeBron never sign off on that trade, the fit with him, Jimmy, and Bam absolutely sucks man...even though he's a step above Jimmy in the shooting department.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I would love to get him here.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Just keep in mind if you start Jovic you have 1 defender in the starting lineup and you’re just making his job even harder

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Lakers always get their own segment lol if anyone is wondering why they just get what they want majority of the time and bend the league over backwards it’s ratings and money

Also trade Herro for DJM is the holdup is that bum Reaves

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Losses fuel this forum clearly