Random Thoughts; XVIII

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Spoiler:

Keep that in mind the next time you visit Russia. Currently, USA is one of the last countries that has true freedom of speech. Millions of Americans have died for our freedoms which not many on earth actually have. Even Europe has all news censored with people prosecuted in expressing their opinions for Facebook posts. Kaepernick is taking isolated incidents or opinions and applying to the collective whole of our nation. That is not right to many of us. Yet, the NFL corporation could be blamed for him not being hired, not the country.

"Patriotism isn’t just getting teary-eyed on the Fourth of July or choked up at war memorials. It’s supporting what the Fourth of July celebrates and what those war memorials commemorate: the U.S. Constitution’s insistence that all people should have the same rights and opportunities and that it is the obligation of the government to make that happen. When the government fails in those obligations, it is the responsibility of patriots to speak up and remind them of their duty.

One of the ironies of the way some people express their patriotism is to brag about our freedoms, especially freedom of speech, but then brand as unpatriotic those who exercise this freedom to express dissatisfaction with the government’s record in upholding the Constitution." © Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Aug 2016)

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“There are a lot of things that are going on that are unjust [that] people aren’t being held accountable for. And that’s something that needs to change. That’s something that this country stands for — freedom, liberty, justice for all. And it’s not happening for all right now.” © Colin Kaepernick (Aug 2016)

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"What should horrify Americans is not Kaepernick’s choice to remain seated during the national anthem, but that nearly 50 years after Ali was banned from boxing for his stance and Tommie Smith and John Carlos’s raised fists caused public ostracization and numerous death threats, we still need to call attention to the same racial inequities. Failure to fix this problem is what’s really un-American here." © Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Aug 2016)

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Good Points. Now, if Kaepernick could play as good as he thinks, then maybe his points would reach a broader audience. Still, if we look at how Society and Civilizations have evolved in the last 5k years, we still have made huge strides in the last 50 years. The world doesn't change overnight. And, I don't think we should punish all public servants for the decisions made by the few who don't have the high standards we think they should. Especially, some servants who put their lives on the line for 40-50k per year dealing with arrogant civilians who try to degrade them daily. That doesn't justify those who take their position as a status of power to use for nefarious needs. But, that doesn't represent the whole or the entire system. And, I can speak as one who has been profiled while being pulled over by 4 undercover cars with swat like guys all Hoowah in armor that treated me and my friends like scum of the earth. And, they used the terms "thug" and "scum" when they separated us. I have exprienced horrible public servants like that and some great public servants. But, we shouldn't persecute the whole for the faults of the few just like we shouldn't call all those who live in the worst parts of a city thugs just because there are shootings on the street they live on. It is perceptions on both sides which are extremist in those regards.

You got it wrong Its systemic racism. The root of the problem of police brutality stems from slavery to Jim Crow and the result is what we see here today. Because the power structure of this country POC were/are being discriminated against and dehumanized. Its not just bad seeds out there, the institution needs changing but the problem is that every time we try to diversify the power structure we're met with opposition. Why is that when people say "Black lives matter" its countered with "All lives matter" or "Blue lives matter"? or when Kaepernick in protest is fighting for the end of Police brutality, the opposition says he's anti-police. Instead of trying to continue the conversation anytime POC fight systemic racism it is met with opposition. What people are doing by opposing even talking about the issue, they're fighting to maintain a racist system.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Spoiler:

I don't have a problem with Jay-Z expressing himself the way he did in 4:44 (Didn't even listen to it yet) but OJ didn't dismiss himself as a black man in said quote. He has coonish tendancies but no sound bytes of denial beyond perceived acceptance. We don't have the full context on the "I'm not black, I'm OJ" quote so I can't consciously correlate Basquiat's, that's my fault. My problem with Jay's message is that he goes out of his way to make an example of OJ and the alliteration of blackness then trivializes any other standard but his own. If the point of the song was to put dissenters on blast then it's hypocritical, he doesn't once tone down the sentiment that any other level of thinking as a black man is acceptable, it's self-serving.

I agree with the message that all black is black and to no point is any other distinction exceptional but he can't make that point and talk down on what he thinks is lesser than himself (As a black man). I hate to cape for OJ Simpson but the man is defenseless, there are much better and more relevant examples of quote, unquote qoons from past and present to make a point of, but he chose to pick on a man who's all but his name now. I don't like rappers or anyone trying to make a point by tearing down someone elses name unless it is defensible. Ye' made the same point in ' All falls down' but he didn't do it by tearing somebody else down or dragging anyone thru the mud and admit his own insecurites, I like both songs but Jay made me uneasy. Really tho, the composition of the song is kinda' genius

OJ isn't defenseless here. His actions have proven the sentiment, for a guy in his position he did everything he could to separate himself as being black. He came up in an era where being a black athlete was important to the community, so those with the platform fought for civil rights throughout their whole career despite the backlash. BIll Russell, Mohammed Ali, Jim Brown, Kareem Abdul Jabarr same era and were all champions for black people in America and still are to this day. OJ may have been as good as Jim Brown on the field but off the field they couldn't be more different as black men in America. Jay-Z's use of OJ's name is just to paint a picture that no matter how successful you are a lot of people wont look past the color of your skin. I don't think thats any different than Kanye saying "Even if you in a Benz you still a n***** in a coupe.

You should sign up for a Tidal trial and watch the footnotes for the song, really all of them it delves into thought process of them.

Him not using his platform doesn't make the accusation of dismissing his likelihood okay. It's a big deal and the fact that nobody takes a second to think about how Jay is using his name show's how defenseless he is. Nothing OJ says would matter because he's such a chit person but that doesn't make it okay. In fact he wouldn't do it to anyone who could protect their name

What Kanye said was true and he made that point without dragging anyone elses name or his above anybody.

I've been interested in Tidal ever since I first tried to access the song to realize that it was available anywhere else, I respected that. I wasn't going to try to get the streamable or anything, just read the available lyrics online before it eventually hit YouTube. Def going to check that out

OJ's appeal to white people was that he did everything in his power to shy away from any civil rights talk many of his colleagues participated in.
If OJ never committed any crimes, White people would still love him and that would've been ok with OJ. But the fact that he did commit crimes(some alleged some not) he was crucified by the media and the black community stood by him even tho he never reciprocated it himself. Jay-Z speaks on it in the footnotes where he says when everything is going good in your life you may not experience the same hardships you would've if you weren't famous but the minute you slip up the same people you tried to part of will embarrass you and treat you like dirt. That's why it doesn't matter what OJ says because even if he could defend himself how could he?

[BadMofoPimp]

Spoiler:

Good Points. Now, if Kaepernick could play as good as he thinks, then maybe his points would reach a broader audience. Still, if we look at how Society and Civilizations have evolved in the last 5k years, we still have made huge strides in the last 50 years. The world doesn't change overnight. And, I don't think we should punish all public servants for the decisions made by the few who don't have the high standards we think they should. Especially, some servants who put their lives on the line for 40-50k per year dealing with arrogant civilians who try to degrade them daily. That doesn't justify those who take their position as a status of power to use for nefarious needs. But, that doesn't represent the whole or the entire system. And, I can speak as one who has been profiled while being pulled over by 4 undercover cars with swat like guys all Hoowah in armor that treated me and my friends like scum of the earth. And, they used the terms "thug" and "scum" when they separated us. I have exprienced horrible public servants like that and some great public servants. But, we shouldn't persecute the whole for the faults of the few just like we shouldn't call all those who live in the worst parts of a city thugs just because there are shootings on the street they live on. It is perceptions on both sides which are extremist in those regards.

You got it wrong Its systemic racism. The root of the problem of police brutality stems from slavery to Jim Crow and the result is what we see here today. Because the power structure of this country POC were/are being discriminated against and dehumanized. Its not just bad seeds out there, the institution needs changing but the problem is that every time we try to diversify the power structure we're met with opposition. Why is that when people say "Black lives matter" its countered with "All lives matter" or "Blue lives matter"? or when Kaepernick in protest is fighting for the end of Police brutality, the opposition says he's anti-police. Instead of trying to continue the conversation anytime POC fight systemic racism it is met with opposition. What people are doing by opposing even talking about the issue, they're fighting to maintain a racist system.

Wrong. We have come a long way. And, each generation, we get better. Like I said before, changes don't happen overnight. There is still slavery in this world in the realm of tens of millions of people. The USA is not the only country who had slaves, racism or prejudices, just that with the Freedom of Speech and being one of the most powerful countries, our problems are exposed whereas racism in Europe or other parts of the world are often covered up. And, when you state systematic, I think the slavery is more rich and poor than isolating to only racial. People seem to take certain instances and applying them to the collective whole when making crazy claims. The worst thing we can do in my opinion is to let those turn us into a socialist society where there is just rich and poor where there will be even less opportunities for black people. There has to be a better middle ground where we create better educational system for all to achieve the "American Dream" with check and balances to hold those accountable from taking away our freedoms. Maybe some good will come out of all that Kaepernick does but if some groups keep taking radical stances of hatred instead of trying to help communities improve, then relationships will continue to deteriorate. Lastly, it is the mainstream media which distorts everyones views. They are the real enemy.

[Mars]

Perhaps, it was not just that Kaepernick took a knee, but that he chose the wrong things to say at times just like he has said some great quotes...

So you're saying he's an imperfect human being just like us?

...Yet, publicly admiring brutal dictators as well as some other public statements has hurt his message. Just like any of us could be misread. I don't expect to hold my job if I did similar things.

He was actually publicly admiring Malcolm X who was also on that t-shirt as well as the "X" cap he was wearing. Armando Salguero went into that conference call full of emotion and with a clear agenda to attack; understandably as he was born in Cuba and was forced to flee with his family.

Once again... Kaepernick absolutely needs to educate himself on the full story behind Castro's regime, but you might want to go back again and listen to the entire exchange between Kaep and Salguero before you keep pushing the misrepresentation that he was "publicly admiring a brutal dictator".

[BadMofoPimp]

Perhaps, it was not just that Kaepernick took a knee, but that he chose the wrong things to say at times just like he has said some great quotes...

So you're saying he's an imperfect human being just like us?

...Yet, publicly admiring brutal dictators as well as some other public statements has hurt his message. Just like any of us could be misread. I don't expect to hold my job if I did similar things.

He was actually publicly admiring Malcolm X who was also on that t-shirt and as well as the "X" cap he was wearing. Armando Salguero went into the conference full of emotion and with a clear agenda to attack; rightfully so as he was born in Cuba and was forced to flee with his family.

Once again... Kaepernick absolutely needs to educate himself on the full story behind Castro's regime, but you might want to go back again and listen to the entire exchange between Kaep and Salguero before you keep pushing the misrepresentation that he was "publicly admiring a brutal dictator".

So, what does a Castro T-Shirt mean to you? Regardless, it may have been a mistake on Kaepernicks part not learning about other societies or cultures outside of what the Mainstream Media has deluded him into believing as well as any of us. By the way, Ghana, where Kaepernick visited and greatly helped the people there is ranked as the 2nd most corrupt country in all of Africa. There is no such thing as a non-corrupt or "better" society anymore it seems. Personally, I would rather help the people of Ghana over Syria, but Ghana has no oil, so the rich force us to try and help the Saudi's control the middle east.

In my opinion, the battle is rich versus the poor, not white or black or any person of color. The more they can divide us, the stronger the rich become.

In Ghana:

…the use of excessive force by police, which resulted in deaths and injuries; ethnic killings and vigilante violence; harsh and life-threatening prison conditions; police impunity; prolonged pretrial detention; arbitrary arrest of journalists; corruption in all branches of government; violence against women and children, including female genital mutilation (FGM); societal discrimination against women, persons with disabilities, gays and lesbians, and persons with HIV/AIDS; trafficking in women and children; ethnic discrimination and politically motivated violence; and child labor, including forced child labor.

[Wolfy1983]

Has the PS4 been jail broken? Same for the Nintendo Switch?

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Spoiler:

Good Points. Now, if Kaepernick could play as good as he thinks, then maybe his points would reach a broader audience. Still, if we look at how Society and Civilizations have evolved in the last 5k years, we still have made huge strides in the last 50 years. The world doesn't change overnight. And, I don't think we should punish all public servants for the decisions made by the few who don't have the high standards we think they should. Especially, some servants who put their lives on the line for 40-50k per year dealing with arrogant civilians who try to degrade them daily. That doesn't justify those who take their position as a status of power to use for nefarious needs. But, that doesn't represent the whole or the entire system. And, I can speak as one who has been profiled while being pulled over by 4 undercover cars with swat like guys all Hoowah in armor that treated me and my friends like scum of the earth. And, they used the terms "thug" and "scum" when they separated us. I have exprienced horrible public servants like that and some great public servants. But, we shouldn't persecute the whole for the faults of the few just like we shouldn't call all those who live in the worst parts of a city thugs just because there are shootings on the street they live on. It is perceptions on both sides which are extremist in those regards.

You got it wrong Its systemic racism. The root of the problem of police brutality stems from slavery to Jim Crow and the result is what we see here today. Because the power structure of this country POC were/are being discriminated against and dehumanized. Its not just bad seeds out there, the institution needs changing but the problem is that every time we try to diversify the power structure we're met with opposition. Why is that when people say "Black lives matter" its countered with "All lives matter" or "Blue lives matter"? or when Kaepernick in protest is fighting for the end of Police brutality, the opposition says he's anti-police. Instead of trying to continue the conversation anytime POC fight systemic racism it is met with opposition. What people are doing by opposing even talking about the issue, they're fighting to maintain a racist system.

Wrong. We have come a long way. And, each generation, we get better. Like I said before, changes don't happen overnight. There is still slavery in this world in the realm of tens of millions of people. The USA is not the only country who had slaves, racism or prejudices, just that with the Freedom of Speech and being one of the most powerful countries, our problems are exposed whereas racism in Europe or other parts of the world are often covered up. And, when you state systematic, I think the slavery is more rich and poor than isolating to only racial. People seem to take certain instances and applying them to the collective whole when making crazy claims. The worst thing we can do in my opinion is to let those turn us into a socialist society where there is just rich and poor where there will be even less opportunities for black people. There has to be a better middle ground where we create better educational system for all to achieve the "American Dream" with check and balances to hold those accountable from taking away our freedoms. Maybe some good will come out of all that Kaepernick does but if some groups keep taking radical stances of hatred instead of trying to help communities improve, then relationships will continue to deteriorate. Lastly, it is the mainstream media which distorts everyones views. They are the real enemy.

Yes we've come a long way from people being slaves in this country but the result of Slavery still affects POC today. Slavery was racial period in this country don't know how you can take any other way. What happens in other countries is irrelevant.
The US was the land of the free home of the brave while still enslaving black people. The middle ground is to keep implementing laws that erase the affect of Jim Crow but we cant get there while were still fighting for the discussion to happen in the first place.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

He was actually publicly admiring Malcolm X who was also on that t-shirt and as well as the "X" cap he was wearing. Armando Salguero went into that conference call full of emotion and with a clear agenda to attack; rightfully so as he was born in Cuba and was forced to flee with his family.

Once again... Kaepernick absolutely needs to educate himself on the full story behind Castro's regime, but you might want to go back again and listen to the entire exchange between Kaep and Salguero before you keep pushing the misrepresentation that he was "publicly admiring a brutal dictator".

Facts. Armando Salguero is a hack.

[Mars]

So, what does a Castro T-Shirt mean to you? Regardless, it may have been a mistake on Kaepernicks part not learning about other societies or cultures outside of what the Mainstream Media has deluded him into believing as well as any of us.

I personally wouldn't have worn the shirt, but I shouldn't be used as the standard.

I'm well aware of the atrocities Castro committed because I've had a fascination with world history (American and foreign) and socio-polilitcs both here and abroad since grade school. That's not the case with everyone; Kaepernick included.

It may very well have been a case of Kaepernick wearing what he viewed as a Malcolm X shirt that happened to feature Castro. He seemed to have knowledge of Malcolm X's background, but was clearly ignorant of Castro's.

Saying that someone displays ignorance isn't an insult or a pejorative. Do you know what "ignorance" actually means? It doesn't mean that person is an idiot or stupid or is willfully disregarding the facts.

The dictionary definition of ignorance is "lack of knowledge or information".

Sometimes it's just as simple as someone "not knowing" or "not having the proper information". Nothing more, nothing less.

Should everyone who rocks that iconic image of Che Guevara be considered pro-Castro. I'm guessing 99% of people who own that poster or wear his image on their t-shirt has no idea that Che and Fidel were comrades right up until Guevara was killed.

As I said, sometimes not knowing is just a simple case of not knowing.

[BadMofoPimp]

Spoiler:

You got it wrong Its systemic racism. The root of the problem of police brutality stems from slavery to Jim Crow and the result is what we see here today. Because the power structure of this country POC were/are being discriminated against and dehumanized. Its not just bad seeds out there, the institution needs changing but the problem is that every time we try to diversify the power structure we're met with opposition. Why is that when people say "Black lives matter" its countered with "All lives matter" or "Blue lives matter"? or when Kaepernick in protest is fighting for the end of Police brutality, the opposition says he's anti-police. Instead of trying to continue the conversation anytime POC fight systemic racism it is met with opposition. What people are doing by opposing even talking about the issue, they're fighting to maintain a racist system.

Wrong. We have come a long way. And, each generation, we get better. Like I said before, changes don't happen overnight. There is still slavery in this world in the realm of tens of millions of people. The USA is not the only country who had slaves, racism or prejudices, just that with the Freedom of Speech and being one of the most powerful countries, our problems are exposed whereas racism in Europe or other parts of the world are often covered up. And, when you state systematic, I think the slavery is more rich and poor than isolating to only racial. People seem to take certain instances and applying them to the collective whole when making crazy claims. The worst thing we can do in my opinion is to let those turn us into a socialist society where there is just rich and poor where there will be even less opportunities for black people. There has to be a better middle ground where we create better educational system for all to achieve the "American Dream" with check and balances to hold those accountable from taking away our freedoms. Maybe some good will come out of all that Kaepernick does but if some groups keep taking radical stances of hatred instead of trying to help communities improve, then relationships will continue to deteriorate. Lastly, it is the mainstream media which distorts everyones views. They are the real enemy.

Yes we've come a long way from people being slaves in this country but the result of Slavery still affects POC today. Slavery was racial period in this country don't know how you can take any other way. What happens in other countries is irrelevant.
The US was the land of the free home of the brave while still enslaving black people. The middle ground is to keep implementing laws that erase the affect of Jim Crow but we cant get there while were still fighting for the discussion to happen in the first place.

Slavery was in just about every country up until 150 years ago so every country has a history from those effects.

We have grown more in the last 50 years than we have in the 5k years before that. But, if we let the rich and powerful to keep on deluding us that all our problems are white versus black, then the rich and powerful win again . . .

[gom]

I don't think you'll solve America's racial division on RealGM, but I salute you for discussing the issue without appealing to Godwin's Law etc. I argue all the time with Brazilians who believe racism doesn't exist in Brazil. There is a whole neoconservative movement in Brazil that specializes in delusion. It also attracts anti-feminists (they even use the term "feminazi" to criticize progressives) who believe women and men are equally paid in spite of all contrary evidence. Anyway, rest assured that America's special problem (as they often call it) isn't so special after all.

Just to lighten this up. I watched this today and had to stop myself from analyzing the math:

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The guy at the end with the mac coding with headphones on reminds me of me.

[Bishop45]

Spoiler:

OJ isn't defenseless here. His actions have proven the sentiment, for a guy in his position he did everything he could to separate himself as being black. He came up in an era where being a black athlete was important to the community, so those with the platform fought for civil rights throughout their whole career despite the backlash. BIll Russell, Mohammed Ali, Jim Brown, Kareem Abdul Jabarr same era and were all champions for black people in America and still are to this day. OJ may have been as good as Jim Brown on the field but off the field they couldn't be more different as black men in America. Jay-Z's use of OJ's name is just to paint a picture that no matter how successful you are a lot of people wont look past the color of your skin. I don't think thats any different than Kanye saying "Even if you in a Benz you still a n***** in a coupe.

You should sign up for a Tidal trial and watch the footnotes for the song, really all of them it delves into thought process of them.

Him not using his platform doesn't make the accusation of dismissing his likelihood okay. It's a big deal and the fact that nobody takes a second to think about how Jay is using his name show's how defenseless he is. Nothing OJ says would matter because he's such a chit person but that doesn't make it okay. In fact he wouldn't do it to anyone who could protect their name

What Kanye said was true and he made that point without dragging anyone elses name or his above anybody.

I've been interested in Tidal ever since I first tried to access the song to realize that it was available anywhere else, I respected that. I wasn't going to try to get the streamable or anything, just read the available lyrics online before it eventually hit YouTube. Def going to check that out

OJ's appeal to white people was that he did everything in his power to shy away from any civil rights talk many of his colleagues participated in.
If OJ never committed any crimes, White people would still love him and that would've been ok with OJ. But the fact that he did commit crimes(some alleged some not) he was crucified by the media and the black community stood by him even tho he never reciprocated it himself. Jay-Z speaks on it in the footnotes where he says when everything is going good in your life you may not experience the same hardships you would've if you weren't famous but the minute you slip up the same people you tried to part of will embarrass you and treat you like dirt. That's why it doesn't matter what OJ says because even if he could defend himself how could he?

That's an important part of OJ's legacy and I'd be okay with him being criticized for it because it's all valid but I'm not cool with the manuevering of his name here. It's deep characterization when you can justify someone's name being made a statement off of things they didn't do or even directly say. He didn't help the cause but he didn't say anything to hurt it either, feels like it was more relevant to Jay to use the polarity of his name to sale records which is a trigger for me.

I'm gonna watch the break down and see what he was thinking before blasting the song, gonna take a chance to listen to more of the album as well

[ReturnofMVP3]

How often do you shower?

[KingDavid]

How often do you shower?

Every day. Often twice.

[PizzaLord305]

I'm surprised any dolphins fan would want Colin kapaernick. I think he's a bad starting qb for sure, and probably a bad back up as well. giving him credit for leading an extremely deep 49ers team to the super bowl is like giving manning credit for that broncos sb win a couple of years ago.

Guy made highlights, but he's a bad passer. There's no use putting weapons around him because he is incapable of using weapons. the only team he sorta kinda fits on is seattle, who doesn't need him. Anyone whose been watching him play recently can tell you that he's a tremendous athlete and an awful qb. This is 2017 not 2012. There is a clear divide between an athletic qb who can't throw and one who can like cam.

Cam can play on this dolphins team and throw for over 4000 yards and high 20's in tds. Kap has never shown the ability to do anything close to that whatsoever. He's a very bad starting level player right now. I'd be terrified if he was the phone starting qb, blackballing issue aside.

[PizzaLord305]

How often do you shower?

I shower for sure on days where I sweat a lot, but on a day like yesterday where I sat around and did nothing, I did not shower. It isn't beneficial to your skin to shower as much as people usually do. It needs a little bit of that natural oil every once in a while.

I'll skip a day or two per week. I've had young women tell me they like the way I smell, and have no probably scoring when I shoot my shot if you know what I mean.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

I'm surprised any dolphins fan would want Colin kapaernick. I think he's a bad starting qb for sure, and probably a bad back up as well. giving him credit for leading an extremely deep 49ers team to the super bowl is like giving manning credit for that broncos sb win a couple of years ago.

Guy made highlights, but he's a bad passer. There's no use putting weapons around him because he is incapable of using weapons. the only team he sorta kinda fits on is seattle, who doesn't need him. Anyone whose been watching him play recently can tell you that he's a tremendous athlete and an awful qb. This is 2017 not 2012. There is a clear divide between an athletic qb who can't throw and one who can like cam.

Cam can play on this dolphins team and throw for over 4000 yards and high 20's in tds. Kap has never shown the ability to do anything close to that whatsoever. He's a very bad starting level player right now. I'd be terrified if he was the phone starting qb, blackballing issue aside.

You're wrong. Kaep played best when he played into a similar offensive scheme that we run today. He played just as well as Tannehill last year on a worse team.
Even look at our head to head last year. He killed us, he almost came back from 17 point 4thQ deficit. Made play after play despite the lack of talent. Put him with Ajayi, Parker, Stills, Jarvis, Thomas he goes from arguably the worst talented offense's to one of the best.

[Mars]

I'm surprised any dolphins fan would want Colin kapaernick. I think he's a bad starting qb for sure, and probably a bad back up as well. giving him credit for leading an extremely deep 49ers team to the super bowl is like giving manning credit for that broncos sb win a couple of years ago.

Guy made highlights, but he's a bad passer. There's no use putting weapons around him because he is incapable of using weapons. the only team he sorta kinda fits on is seattle, who doesn't need him. Anyone whose been watching him play recently can tell you that he's a tremendous athlete and an awful qb. This is 2017 not 2012. There is a clear divide between an athletic qb who can't throw and one who can like cam.

Cam can play on this dolphins team and throw for over 4000 yards and high 20's in tds. Kap has never shown the ability to do anything close to that whatsoever. He's a very bad starting level player right now. I'd be terrified if he was the phone starting qb, blackballing issue aside.

Cam's not an option at quarterback for the Dolphins this season... or did I miss something? Aaron Rodgers would be fairly decent with this offense as well. Don't think he's available either.

Tannehill, Cutler and Moore combined have led their respective teams where exactly? While Tannehill's the best quarterback of the group, we're all aware he isn't an option this season either.

Compare the career numbers of Tannehill and Kaepernick...

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...Not really going out on a limb when saying Kaep's completion percentage would be a tad bit higher if he'd had the ability to dump off 3-yard passes to Landry 100+ times a season for the last three years.

[JaysRule25]

Thinking about buying a PS4, but all I want to play is NBA2K should I get one?

If you buy one you should buy it for Blood borne. Probs my fave game ever.

Hey Dom, have you tried out Nioh yet? Been playing through it recently and it has a strong Souls/Bloodborne vibe. Not as deep as those games and the world isn't as richly detailed, but it's nice to play a game with a similar style.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Welp

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