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Post#1441 » by wade44 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:57 pm

All for the full rebuild after this season. Need to restock the pick cupboard and finding a franchise player is a necessity
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Post#1442 » by twix2500 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:01 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:If Jimmy is involved in the future Lavine is a piece you want. A Lavine/Carter trade would do wonders. Cant get Lavine and Vucevic unfortunately unless you include Herros salary and that’s not happening. If Jimmy’s not involved in the future plans then none of it makes sense
Heat not doing Lavine just like they are not doing Beal.

If the Heat are building around Butler than players like McCollum or the players we talked about on Nets. But other than that there are no high level scorer pieces out there if that's why you looking at Lavine

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I’d take the better and younger player in Lavine over CJ but I agree they won’t look at it.


I do not think Heat have an issue with Lavine as a player, its that contract. In all honestly I think McCollum is that player the Heat were hoping Lowry or Rozier would be. If the Heat are expecting to resign Butler than McCollum should be the move to make. The contract is right, the Heat wouldnt have to sell the form and he is extremely professional and clutch.
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Post#1443 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:02 pm

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I think an extension is coming as well. Not for a max though. The asset pool is so bad and were aren’t getting anything worth while in trade so might as well keep him and have him continue to school the “youth movement”
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Post#1444 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:09 pm

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I think an extension is coming as well. Not for a max though. The asset pool is so bad and were aren’t getting anything worth while in trade so might as well keep him and have him continue to school the “youth movement”


No clue who that is but he’s been on point
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Post#1446 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:21 pm

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I think an extension is coming as well. Not for a max though. The asset pool is so bad and were aren’t getting anything worth while in trade so might as well keep him and have him continue to school the “youth movement”


No clue who that is but he’s been on point

He has been that’s why i thought it was post worthy. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear Jimmy getting a two year extension here soon. It’s prudent to put this behind us this year and have Jimmy completely focused to secure paying out OKC that pick this year. People are not going to like it but Jimmy coming off the books doesn't do chit, not likely to get anything worth while for him as him being on the team for a few more years brings way more value to the franchise then the spare parts being offered in trade, allows us to move on and make the around the edges trades. We’ll have 45 million in expiring’s next year and two 1st round picks. Jimmy’s figure is not the problem. It’s putting the wasted 45 million in dead weight from Robinson and Rozier to good use.
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Post#1447 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:29 pm

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I think an extension is coming as well. Not for a max though. The asset pool is so bad and were aren’t getting anything worth while in trade so might as well keep him and have him continue to school the “youth movement”


No clue who that is but he’s been on point

He has been that’s why i thought it was post worthy. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear Jimmy getting a two year extension here soon. It’s prudent to put this behind us this year and have Jimmy completely focused to secure paying out OKC that pick this year. People are not going to like it but Jimmy coming off the books doesn't do chit, not likely to get anything worth while for him as him being on the team for a few more years brings way more value to the franchise then the spare parts being offered in trade, allows us to move on and make the around the edges trades. We’ll have 45 million in expiring’s next year and two 1st round picks. Jimmy’s figure is not the problem. It’s putting the wasted 45 million in dead weight from Robinson and Rozier to good use.


There it is, expiring Terry, the young guys and 2 1sts for Fox and his expiring contract. Go vet hunting this summer and get us the Alec Burks of the 4 position. Retain Burks by the way. Has Brook Lopez reached the vet minimum on a contender stage of his career yet lol?
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Post#1448 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:36 pm

Heat most likely want to structure any extension with Butler with his starting salary figure next year somewhere in the mid to upper 40’s that gives them some wiggle room under the tax with an increase in the second year back in the 50’s when money comes off the books and cap increases.
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Post#1449 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:39 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
No clue who that is but he’s been on point

He has been that’s why i thought it was post worthy. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear Jimmy getting a two year extension here soon. It’s prudent to put this behind us this year and have Jimmy completely focused to secure paying out OKC that pick this year. People are not going to like it but Jimmy coming off the books doesn't do chit, not likely to get anything worth while for him as him being on the team for a few more years brings way more value to the franchise then the spare parts being offered in trade, allows us to move on and make the around the edges trades. We’ll have 45 million in expiring’s next year and two 1st round picks. Jimmy’s figure is not the problem. It’s putting the wasted 45 million in dead weight from Robinson and Rozier to good use.


There it is, expiring Terry, the young guys and 2 1sts for Fox and his expiring contract. Go vet hunting this summer and get us the Alec Burks of the 4 position. Retain Burks by the way. Has Brook Lopez reached the vet minimum on a contender stage of his career yet lol?

I still don’t think Fox is realistic trade wise but adding a lot more useful pieces to the core is.
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Post#1450 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:49 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:He has been that’s why i thought it was post worthy. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear Jimmy getting a two year extension here soon. It’s prudent to put this behind us this year and have Jimmy completely focused to secure paying out OKC that pick this year. People are not going to like it but Jimmy coming off the books doesn't do chit, not likely to get anything worth while for him as him being on the team for a few more years brings way more value to the franchise then the spare parts being offered in trade, allows us to move on and make the around the edges trades. We’ll have 45 million in expiring’s next year and two 1st round picks. Jimmy’s figure is not the problem. It’s putting the wasted 45 million in dead weight from Robinson and Rozier to good use.


There it is, expiring Terry, the young guys and 2 1sts for Fox and his expiring contract. Go vet hunting this summer and get us the Alec Burks of the 4 position. Retain Burks by the way. Has Brook Lopez reached the vet minimum on a contender stage of his career yet lol?

I still don’t think Fox is realistic trade wise but adding a lot more useful pieces to the core is.


Stay tuned.
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Post#1451 » by DayofMourning » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:52 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:All for the full rebuild after this season. Need to restock the pick cupboard and finding a franchise player is a necessity


Ive forever been a fan of this approach.

We had our Jimmy run. Was better than any of us thought itd be. However, we have zero assets that teams want and now are sliding back down to the treadmill portion of bball life.

We arent getting any superstars via trade or free agency. We have to draft them, or at least attempt to. Id imagine my sense of optimism would go thru the roof with a legit blue chip prospect on the roster. Right now our best prospects are all complimentary.
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Post#1452 » by twix2500 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:54 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:He has been that’s why i thought it was post worthy. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear Jimmy getting a two year extension here soon. It’s prudent to put this behind us this year and have Jimmy completely focused to secure paying out OKC that pick this year. People are not going to like it but Jimmy coming off the books doesn't do chit, not likely to get anything worth while for him as him being on the team for a few more years brings way more value to the franchise then the spare parts being offered in trade, allows us to move on and make the around the edges trades. We’ll have 45 million in expiring’s next year and two 1st round picks. Jimmy’s figure is not the problem. It’s putting the wasted 45 million in dead weight from Robinson and Rozier to good use.


There it is, expiring Terry, the young guys and 2 1sts for Fox and his expiring contract. Go vet hunting this summer and get us the Alec Burks of the 4 position. Retain Burks by the way. Has Brook Lopez reached the vet minimum on a contender stage of his career yet lol?

I still don’t think Fox is realistic trade wise but adding a lot more useful pieces to the core is.
Its not realistic with Butler. Can't have that many 50 mill dollar players

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Post#1453 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:56 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
There it is, expiring Terry, the young guys and 2 1sts for Fox and his expiring contract. Go vet hunting this summer and get us the Alec Burks of the 4 position. Retain Burks by the way. Has Brook Lopez reached the vet minimum on a contender stage of his career yet lol?

I still don’t think Fox is realistic trade wise but adding a lot more useful pieces to the core is.


Stay tuned.
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Post#1454 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:58 pm

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Considering the emergence of Alec Burks. I like this deal. Not giving up much here for 20/10 stretch big
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Post#1455 » by wade44 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:00 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:All for the full rebuild after this season. Need to restock the pick cupboard and finding a franchise player is a necessity


Ive forever been a fan of this approach.

We had our Jimmy run. Was better than any of us thought itd be. However, we have zero assets that teams want and now are sliding back down to the treadmill portion of bball life.

We arent getting any superstars via trade or free agency. We have to draft them, or at least attempt to. Id imagine my sense of optimism would go thru the roof with a legit blue chip prospect on the roster. Right now our best prospects are all complimentary.


We’re basically right back where we were pre Jimmy when we got Winslow. In that draft territory. We need top 5 picks at the very least but question is will Micky do what’s right or continue enjoying the smell of his own farts
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Post#1456 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:02 pm

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Considering the emergence of Alec Burks. I like this deal. Not giving up much here


If we’re keeping Jimmy go for it.

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Post#1457 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:08 pm

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Considering the emergence of Alec Burks. I like this deal. Not giving up much here


If we’re keeping Jimmy go for it.

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Not going to get a big putting up 20/10 shooting 45% from 3 any cheaper. Big deal he plays no defense. Just need him to be a big body down low to take pressure off Bam. He helps immensely in the screen and rebounding game. Also won’t have to stress all the time about Bam scoring.
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Post#1458 » by DayofMourning » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:15 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:All for the full rebuild after this season. Need to restock the pick cupboard and finding a franchise player is a necessity


Ive forever been a fan of this approach.

We had our Jimmy run. Was better than any of us thought itd be. However, we have zero assets that teams want and now are sliding back down to the treadmill portion of bball life.

We arent getting any superstars via trade or free agency. We have to draft them, or at least attempt to. Id imagine my sense of optimism would go thru the roof with a legit blue chip prospect on the roster. Right now our best prospects are all complimentary.


We’re basically right back where we were pre Jimmy when we got Winslow. In that draft territory. We need top 5 picks at the very least but question is will Micky do what’s right or continue enjoying the smell of his own farts


Two top 5 picks on this team would inspire some significant positivity I think.

Then you grow and add the best vets to supplement.

Imagine this team with Flagg and Harper. Wed be pissing ourselves at our prospects.
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Post#1459 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:18 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
Ive forever been a fan of this approach.

We had our Jimmy run. Was better than any of us thought itd be. However, we have zero assets that teams want and now are sliding back down to the treadmill portion of bball life.

We arent getting any superstars via trade or free agency. We have to draft them, or at least attempt to. Id imagine my sense of optimism would go thru the roof with a legit blue chip prospect on the roster. Right now our best prospects are all complimentary.


We’re basically right back where we were pre Jimmy when we got Winslow. In that draft territory. We need top 5 picks at the very least but question is will Micky do what’s right or continue enjoying the smell of his own farts


Two top 5 picks on this team would inspire some significant positivity I think.

Then you grow and add the best vets to supplement.

Imagine this team with Flagg and Harper. Wed be pissing ourselves at our prospects.

As long as this FO is still in place these scenarios have a zero probability of happening. Something catastrophic injury wise to this roster would have to happen and even then our G leaguers with Spo will scrap too many wins taking away more lottery balls.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1460 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:23 pm

The time to tank was for Wemby. Then you send Herro out for a Mitchell or Fox (Mitchell might’ve been more inclined to come here if we had Wemby on top of Jimmy and Bam) and compete for the next 10+ years
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