2019 Heat Offseason thread 4.0- Yimmy and the Kids!

bisco614 · Post #1461 » by **bisco614** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:28 pm

batterybro42 wrote:Anybody want to explain to me what the hell Presti is doing and what he accomplished here if his plan was to move CP3 to Miami after all this

The picks he got from Houston are better than what he would have to give us. They are only 1-4 protected, and come when harden and Westbrook are 35-37 years old (2024 and 2026). On top of that they got 2 pick swaps (2021 and 2025), which can be incredibly valuable.

If he just has to give us our own picks back to take CP3, then he comes out ahead. He’s doing the same thing he did with Paul George, extracting maximum value at each moment, and then figure out the rest later. It’s a rebuild anyway.

Not saying this means we are getting CP3, but from Presti’s end it makes sense.

Heat3 · Post #1462 » by **Heat3** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:29 pm

Cmon_Son-_- wrote:Cant wait for 2021 when our fans say they dont want a 32 year old Beal tying up 35% of our cap in 2025 lol

Exactly! I don't know why people were focused on paying the remaining $170M~ to Westbrook. The Heat are already paying that to a combination of lesser players now lol. In 2021 they'll do it again for some FA only the numbers will be even bigger.

twix2500 · Post #1463 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:36 pm

I cant wait to see Dragic and Butler in the fullcourt. Finally have a player who can run with Dragic. Hopefully that influence Winslow to get into the fullcourt as well.

TeZag · Post #1464 » by **TeZag** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:37 pm

If Miami can figure out a way to get Chris Paul without giving up too much they should be a 7 or 8 seed in the East I would think!

Post #1465 » by **DefenseWins** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:38 pm

somerandomdude wrote:Like MWP said, if we wanted CP3, we would've been involved in the HOU + OKC trade.

That is true, give up our expiring's for CP3. It would have benefited OKC better than to take on Paul.

HIF · Post #1466 » by **HIF** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:41 pm

TeZag wrote:If Miami can figure out a way to get Chris Paul without giving up too much they should be a 7 or 8 seed in the East I would think!

New troll account! :nonono:

Post #1467 » by **heat4life** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:42 pm

TeZag wrote:If Miami can figure out a way to get Chris Paul without giving up too much they should be a 7 or 8 seed in the East I would think!

We are a 7 or 8 seed as we stand today. Why would I want 34 year Chris Paul with that contract to climb just a couple of spots? I would like to keep rolling with WInslow and Bam and accelerate Herro's development. Let's see what a healthy Waiters and JJ can contribute as well.

HIF · Post #1468 » by **HIF** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:43 pm

dean456 wrote:
somerandomdude wrote:Like MWP said, if we wanted CP3, we would've been involved in the HOU + OKC trade.

It could be that we want make the Paul trade a part of a three team trade with Washington with Beal because of our hard cap situation?

Obviously I have no idea really but it could've been that WE wanted Russ so were unwilling to help Houston get him, however once Houston and Oklahoma sorted something out and we could no longer hold out hope of Westbrook we saw that we could come away with some useful picks whilst getting CP3.

Just another alternative idea.

HIF · Post #1469 » by **HIF** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:45 pm

Funny to see how wrong Pie in the sky and some others were. Yet I'm sure those same frauds will be quoted here in the next possible trade scenario. At least it keeps the off-season busy.

Post #1470 » by **DayofMourning** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:45 pm

OKC going to trade CP3 for Wiggins (getting picks in the process), then will trade Wiggins to Washington for Wall (getting picks in the process), then will trade Wall to Houston for Russ (getting picks in the process).

Kobewade11 · Post #1471 » by **Kobewade11** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:47 pm

dean456 wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:So we’re back to the Giannis pipe dream. I’ve never seen a fanbase that was so focused on trying to build a team 5 years from now instead of the present. Everything is trade, trade, trade to set up the next super team. Nobody believes in drafting, developing, and internal improvement anymore.

I would support that if our team didnt manage to be a borderline playoff team no matter how terrible our squad is. Pretty hard to build a contender through the draft if you never get a pick lower than 10 and when we do we select Michael Beasley.

it doesnt happen overnight

Kobewade11 · Post #1472 » by **Kobewade11** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:50 pm

HIF wrote:Funny to see how wrong Pie in the sky and some others were. Yet I'm sure those same frauds will be quoted here in the next possible trade scenario. At least it keeps the off-season busy.

to be fair he did tweet this yesterday morning

If anything its the meat beat that jumped the gun again, and whoever the local clown is who said he said a source who told him it was a done deal. Can't forget about that clown Ira either.

Post #1473 » by **heat4life** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:50 pm

The trade doesn't make sense from an OKC standpoint. You are just saving on 1 year of Westbrooks contract, got a couple of picks and a couple of more swaps but now you have an older player with equally big contract to trade and you might have to use some of those picks just to move him. I guess they were really trying to do right by Russell.

Post #1474 » by **DayofMourning** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:51 pm

If CP3 doesn't want OKC, then have him change his player option in 2022 into a team option.

Vertical Limit · Post #1475 » by **Vertical Limit** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:52 pm

Daffy wrote:Man I wasted a lot of time watching Russell Westbrook tape and highlights lol.

yall do this to yourselves..

Post #1476 » by **heat4life** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:52 pm

DayofMourning wrote:If CP3 doesn't want OKC, then have him change his player option in 2022 into a team option.

That's a lot of money to leave on the table though...

Post #1477 » by **DayofMourning** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:54 pm

heat4life wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:If CP3 doesn't want OKC, then have him change his player option in 2022 into a team option.

That's a lot of money to leave on the table though...

Oh yeah. 40 million bucks is no joke. Depends on whether he thinks he can recoup that through endorsements in a bigger market, and how long he plans on playing.

Its not an issue if he doesn't mind playing in OKC.

HEATVols865 · Post #1478 » by **HEATVols865** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:00 pm

DayofMourning wrote:If CP3 doesn't want OKC, then have him change his player option in 2022 into a team option.

Is that allowed?
If so, and he wants Miami, if I’m Riley, I tell him that I’ll trade for you but I need that changed.
That’s the only way plus picks that I’d do the deal.

Post #1479 » by **DayofMourning** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:09 pm

HEATlanta wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:If CP3 doesn't want OKC, then have him change his player option in 2022 into a team option.

Is that allowed?
If so, and he wants Miami, if I’m Riley, I tell him that I’ll trade for you but I need that changed.
That’s the only way plus picks that I’d do the deal.

I believe so. I feel as if I've read that somewhere happening before. I'd defer to one of the contract guys on the board to clarify. Not an easy thing to Google apparently.

batterybro42 · Post #1480 » by **batterybro42** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:10 pm

HEATlanta wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:If CP3 doesn't want OKC, then have him change his player option in 2022 into a team option.

Is that allowed?
If so, and he wants Miami, if I’m Riley, I tell him that I’ll trade for you but I need that changed.
That’s the only way plus picks that I’d do the deal.

If that was possible and Paul was willing to do it, we would not even need picks back for it

Becomes a 2 year contract, which honestly lines up with our window, and is not terrible

Huge difference between him on a 3 year deal and him on a 2 year deal

Part of me thinks Paul may stay put on OKC and give up the ring chasing life for good. He did play there long ago, and actually delivered basketball to OKC when those fans showed up to support him and the Hornets after Katrina

Kinda full circle for Paul