Official Miami Heat Off-Season GT - Saving you from IggieCC

[BBallFreak]

Same people who are telling me this now, are the same people who told me I am wrong for creating a thread to trade Chris Bosh after we won the title in 2013, because I said we would not be good enough to win it again the next season and Bosh is the one that needs to go. I was proven right multiple times

So boring watching the same people telling me I am wrong, you guys lack long term vision.

If you think Duncan Robinson is going to have another cinderella playoff run.... we are not reaching the Finals again next season unless we trade for Harden.

Oh excuse us, oh great seer of seers. I suppose you foresaw our Finals run this past year? Did you see Robinson, Nunn, Herro, and Bam being what they were, or was your grumpy ass caught off guard, too?

Forgive me my bluntness right now, but I'm recovering from Covid currently and don't really have patience for claptrap like this.

Bosh? GTFO! Who cares that you wanted to trade him! Honestly, who gives a flying F?!?!?!

Harden is not the only party to the Finals for this team, and he's a terrible option for this team imo. I grant you, I could be wrong on that but I'm willing to admit I could be wrong! Are you, or is your arrogance so intense that that's not even a possibility for you?

[eddieheatfan]

Same people who are telling me this now, are the same people who told me I am wrong for creating a thread to trade Chris Bosh after we won the title in 2013, because I said we would not be good enough to win it again the next season and Bosh is the one that needs to go. I was proven right multiple times

So boring watching the same people telling me I am wrong, you guys lack long term vision.

If you think Duncan Robinson is going to have another cinderella playoff run.... we are not reaching the Finals again next season unless we trade for Harden.

Oh excuse us, oh great seer of seers. I suppose you foresaw our Finals run this past year? Did you see Robinson, Nunn, Herro, and Bam being what they were, or was your grumpy ass caught off guard, too?

Forgive me my bluntness right now, but I'm recovering from Covid currently and don't really have patience for claptrap like this.

Bosh? GTFO! Who cares that you wanted to trade him! Honestly, who gives a flying F?!?!?!

Harden is not the only party to the Finals for this team, and he's a terrible option for this team imo. I grant you, I could be wrong on that but I'm willing to admit I could be wrong! Are you, or is your arrogance so intense that that's not even a possibility for you?

[BBallFreak]

Oh, and we could still very well be in the hunt for Harden. I don't see the issue, either way.

[dshearn]

why is everyone here discussing all these side-grade moves that do not put us over the hump to beat the Lakers?

avery bradley, lamarcus aldridge, ibaka, none of these guys tip the scales in our favor.


we should have traded for harden. i really like Jimmy Buckets but hes not a legit first option. we need someone who can score on a superstar level CONSISTENTLY.

At what cost?

It clear you need more then Westbrook and Durant around him to win the finals.

I like the odds better of waiting to naturally insert more talent into the roster next year, versus gutting the team to add a one dimensional player who has played with other HOFers with out Finals success.

Dude was not enough with westbrook, durant and Surge when he was younger, and not enough with chris paul or Westbrook when he was older...

[Beenie]

The loss of Crowder seems to indicate that Iggie's role will expand.

He's almost now untradable unless Mia can find another 3/D switchable wing that can check the Jaylon Brown's and Giannis' of the league.

The Iggie and KO trade packages for a big would not be favorable, IMO.

[BBallFreak]

The loss of Crowder seems to indicate that Iggie's role will expand.

He's almost now untradable unless Mia can find another 3/D switchable wing that can check the Jaylon Brown's and Giannis' of the league.

The Iggie and KO trade packages for a big would not be favorable, IMO.

That's why we signed Harkless and Bradley IMO. Those are two very good defensive players...

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

The idea is to get a superstar. Just not now. The FO has done a brilliant job here.

the Heat dont get to pick and choose when superstars become available.

we thought Giannias might be a choice but now hes not looking likely anymore.

we had no idea Harden would request a trade 1 year ago.


strike while we have the chance.

[Beenie]

Gonna miss Crowder's energy and spirit.

It was infectious.

Not an easy thing to replace when it comes to a key rotational player.

[BBallFreak]

The idea is to get a superstar. Just not now. The FO has done a brilliant job here.

the Heat dont get to pick and choose when superstars become available.

we thought Giannias might be a choice but now hes not looking likely anymore.

we had no idea Harden would request a trade 1 year ago.


strike while we have the chance.

And we very well might, but the idea that we have to take him, and only him, simply because you said so, is preposterous.

What if we're working out a deal for Bradley Beal as we speak? What if Riley has a plan that you haven't even considered? What if Herro becomes exactly what we all want him to be?

Check your arrogance, my friend. We have options, and you are not the be all, end all...

[Beenie]

The loss of Crowder seems to indicate that Iggie's role will expand.

He's almost now untradable unless Mia can find another 3/D switchable wing that can check the Jaylon Brown's and Giannis' of the league.

The Iggie and KO trade packages for a big would not be favorable, IMO.

That's why we signed Harkless and Bradley IMO. Those are two very good defensive players...

Both are too small and just aren't strong enough to switch onto Giannis, Tatum, and certainly not AD the way Crowder could and at times have some success.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

why is everyone here discussing all these side-grade moves that do not put us over the hump to beat the Lakers?

avery bradley, lamarcus aldridge, ibaka, none of these guys tip the scales in our favor.


we should have traded for harden. i really like Jimmy Buckets but hes not a legit first option. we need someone who can score on a superstar level CONSISTENTLY.

At what cost?

It clear you need more then Westbrook and Durant around him to win the finals.

I like the odds better of waiting to naturally insert more talent into the roster next year, versus gutting the team to add a one dimensional player who has played with other HOFers with out Finals success.

Dude was not enough with westbrook, durant and Surge when he was younger, and not enough with chris paul or Westbrook when he was older...

Harden is not to blame for the Rockets failures.

He was a Chris Paul injury away from almost doing it....

and Westbrook is a ballhog cancer.

[BBallFreak]

The loss of Crowder seems to indicate that Iggie's role will expand.

He's almost now untradable unless Mia can find another 3/D switchable wing that can check the Jaylon Brown's and Giannis' of the league.

The Iggie and KO trade packages for a big would not be favorable, IMO.

That's why we signed Harkless and Bradley IMO. Those are two very good defensive players...

Both are too small and just aren't strong enough to switch onto Giannis, Tatum, and certainly not AD the way Crowder could and at times have some success.

Harkless is 3 inches taller than Crowder

[BBallFreak]

why is everyone here discussing all these side-grade moves that do not put us over the hump to beat the Lakers?

avery bradley, lamarcus aldridge, ibaka, none of these guys tip the scales in our favor.


we should have traded for harden. i really like Jimmy Buckets but hes not a legit first option. we need someone who can score on a superstar level CONSISTENTLY.

At what cost?

It clear you need more then Westbrook and Durant around him to win the finals.

I like the odds better of waiting to naturally insert more talent into the roster next year, versus gutting the team to add a one dimensional player who has played with other HOFers with out Finals success.

Dude was not enough with westbrook, durant and Surge when he was younger, and not enough with chris paul or Westbrook when he was older...

Harden is not to blame for the Rockets failures.

He was a Chris Paul injury away from almost doing it....

and Westbrook is a ballhog cancer.

The same could be said of Harden.

[TMIMITW]

The loss of Crowder seems to indicate that Iggie's role will expand.

He's almost now untradable unless Mia can find another 3/D switchable wing that can check the Jaylon Brown's and Giannis' of the league.

The Iggie and KO trade packages for a big would not be favorable, IMO.

That's why we signed Harkless and Bradley IMO. Those are two very good defensive players...

Both are too small and just aren't strong enough to switch onto Giannis, Tatum, and certainly not AD the way Crowder could and at times have some success.

Dont be surprised at Precious being up for the challenge

[Beenie]

That's why we signed Harkless and Bradley IMO. Those are two very good defensive players...

Both are too small and just aren't strong enough to switch onto Giannis, Tatum, and certainly not AD the way Crowder could and at times have some success.

Harkless is 3 inches taller than Crowder

And probable 15-20 lbs lighter.

He has a smaller frame.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

oh and remember

we are the organization that helped fix and teach Lebron James how to play winning ball

Harden drops 40 pts in his sleep, we can help him too and build the right team to support him.

[El Alonzo scowl]

We have good depth, good young assets for a trade, 2021 free agency flexibility, and a team ready to compete to win it all now. Outstanding management by Riley.

[RexBoyWonder]

The loss of Crowder seems to indicate that Iggie's role will expand.

He's almost now untradable unless Mia can find another 3/D switchable wing that can check the Jaylon Brown's and Giannis' of the league.

The Iggie and KO trade packages for a big would not be favorable, IMO.

That's why we signed Harkless and Bradley IMO. Those are two very good defensive players...

Both are too small and just aren't strong enough to switch onto Giannis, Tatum, and certainly not AD the way Crowder could and at times have some success.

Right, that's why I thought retaining Crowder was important.

He was basically the only "big" outside Bam that had minutes where he was solid on both defense and offense.

Now we have no one on the roster that looks ready to be Bam's supporting big.

Harkless to small and just not good enough, 2 rookies with no experience, 2 shooting slow centers that can't defend.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

We have good depth, good young assets for a trade, 2021 free agency flexibility, and a team ready to compete to win it all now. Outstanding management by Riley.

oh hell yes

In only 5 seasons from the collapse of the Big 3 in 2014.... Riley built another Finals team from the ground up.


INCREDIBLE. Not enough props being given to Riles for this.

[BBallFreak]

oh and remember

we are the organization that helped fix and teach Lebum James how to play winning ball

Harden drops 40 pts in his sleep, we can help him too and build the right team to support him.

Again, I'm fine getting him, but he is by no means an imperative. He is not our only path back.

I'm not looking for a 30 year old who has to be taught how to play winning basketball. Do you see him listening to Spolestra and Jimmy, as he should? I don't. I think you'll see what you always see from him - a shot happy, no-defense-playing chucker who only looks for fouls. Would I be happy if we landed him? Yes, no doubt, but don't think for a minute he's "the guy" just because. He has work to put in, and it's his way of thinking that needs to change. I don't see him doing that...