Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

[wadenation305]

Riddle me this...... If Spo won't play Jovic because he isn't ready...... why does he play guys from the local Y ahead of him? In what world are a bunch of guys that.... by every metric performed by people paid millions of dollars to evaluate talent deemed that they had no NBA skill.... more ready than a 1st round pick?

[contract]

Riddle me this...... If Spo won't play Jovic because he isn't ready...... why does he play guys from the local Y ahead of him? In what world are a bunch of guys that.... by every metric performed by people paid millions of dollars to evaluate talent deemed that they had no NBA skill.... more ready than a 1st round pick?

Reliably doing what you're expected to do means more than raw talent for role players.

[VaDe255]

The rich get richer!!

“See I told you the Heat wouldn’t trade for Harden”

Congrats, you were right and your team missed out on another opportunity to fill a MASSIVE need. Great job!

The Sixers didn't just get expiring players in return; they got an entire asset package including two first-round picks, a pick swap, and two second-round picks. That's a hefty sum to match, especially when you consider that they also managed to offload PJ Tucker's salary for a cleaner cap situation. Frankly, I don't think the Heat should or could have outbid that.

As for Damian Lillard, it's looking like we might have dodged a bullet there. His early-season performance hasn't been up to his usual standards; both his shooting and playmaking numbers are down. Sometimes it's a different ball game when you're not on a winning team.

Meanwhile, our young core is showing a lot of promise. Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo look improved, JJJ and Nikola Jovic are making strides too. Sure, we're off to a 1-3 start, but let's put that into context. We rested our top players during some of those games and faced off against two of the league's top four teams on the road.

So, while the rich may be getting richer, we're building something sustainable here. And sometimes, that's more valuable in the long run.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Harden was never getting traded here whether we wanted him or not.

More of the same from a FO and Ownership that clearly can’t get it done anymore

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The rich get richer!!

“See I told you the Heat wouldn’t trade for Harden”

Congrats, you were right and your team missed out on another opportunity to fill a MASSIVE need. Great job!

The Sixers didn't just get expiring players in return; they got an entire asset package including two first-round picks, a pick swap, and two second-round picks. That's a hefty sum to match, especially when you consider that they also managed to offload PJ Tucker's salary for a cleaner cap situation. Frankly, I don't think the Heat should or could have outbid that.

As for Damian Lillard, it's looking like we might have dodged a bullet there. His early-season performance hasn't been up to his usual standards; both his shooting and playmaking numbers are down. Sometimes it's a different ball game when you're not on a winning team.

Meanwhile, our young core is showing a lot of promise. Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo look improved, JJJ and Nikola Jovic are making strides too. Sure, we're off to a 1-3 start, but let's put that into context. We rested our top players during some of those games and faced off against two of the league's top four teams on the road.

So, while the rich may be getting richer, we're building something sustainable here. And sometimes, that's more valuable in the long run.

I want a championship in the Jimmy Butler era, all that other **** is irrelevant. If you’re not helping us win now you can get out for someone who can

[MiamiLoyal926]

The rich get richer!!

“See I told you the Heat wouldn’t trade for Harden”

Congrats, you were right and your team missed out on another opportunity to fill a MASSIVE need. Great job!

The Sixers didn't just get expiring players in return; they got an entire asset package including two first-round picks, a pick swap, and two second-round picks. That's a hefty sum to match, especially when you consider that they also managed to offload PJ Tucker's salary for a cleaner cap situation. Frankly, I don't think the Heat should or could have outbid that.

As for Damian Lillard, it's looking like we might have dodged a bullet there. His early-season performance hasn't been up to his usual standards; both his shooting and playmaking numbers are down. Sometimes it's a different ball game when you're not on a winning team.

Meanwhile, our young core is showing a lot of promise. Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo look improved, JJJ and Nikola Jovic are making strides too. Sure, we're off to a 1-3 start, but let's put that into context. We rested our top players during some of those games and faced off against two of the league's top four teams on the road.

So, while the rich may be getting richer, we're building something sustainable here. And sometimes, that's more valuable in the long run.

[MiamiLoyal926]

The rich get richer!!

“See I told you the Heat wouldn’t trade for Harden”

Congrats, you were right and your team missed out on another opportunity to fill a MASSIVE need. Great job!

The Sixers didn't just get expiring players in return; they got an entire asset package including two first-round picks, a pick swap, and two second-round picks. That's a hefty sum to match, especially when you consider that they also managed to offload PJ Tucker's salary for a cleaner cap situation. Frankly, I don't think the Heat should or could have outbid that.

As for Damian Lillard, it's looking like we might have dodged a bullet there. His early-season performance hasn't been up to his usual standards; both his shooting and playmaking numbers are down. Sometimes it's a different ball game when you're not on a winning team.

Meanwhile, our young core is showing a lot of promise. Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo look improved, JJJ and Nikola Jovic are making strides too. Sure, we're off to a 1-3 start, but let's put that into context. We rested our top players during some of those games and faced off against two of the league's top four teams on the road.

So, while the rich may be getting richer, we're building something sustainable here. And sometimes, that's more valuable in the long run.

I want a championship in the Jimmy Butler era, all that other **** is irrelevant. If you’re not helping us win now you can get out for someone who can

I want another chip too! With that said, in the last dozen years, we have had one of the most successful NBA franchises to watch. If it’s championship or bust for me as a Heat fan, might as well stop watching sports as I will undoubtedly live a life of disappointment and dissatisfaction as the likelyhood of my teams winning a championship all the time is slim.

I watch Heat basketball and am a fan of the team for more than the championships. Rooting for our guys means more to me than selling our guys and hiring an unliked mercenary like Harden.

It’s not that Heat FO can’t get it done anymore, it’s that they are choosing to draw a line in the sand.

[MiamiLoyal926]

With that said… Harden sure knows how to make things uncomfortable… had Dame not folded and chosen to make things uncomfortable like Harden did… he too could have ended up where he “wanted to be”. Dame signed off on the trade to the Bucks at the end of the day.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The Sixers didn't just get expiring players in return; they got an entire asset package including two first-round picks, a pick swap, and two second-round picks. That's a hefty sum to match, especially when you consider that they also managed to offload PJ Tucker's salary for a cleaner cap situation. Frankly, I don't think the Heat should or could have outbid that.

As for Damian Lillard, it's looking like we might have dodged a bullet there. His early-season performance hasn't been up to his usual standards; both his shooting and playmaking numbers are down. Sometimes it's a different ball game when you're not on a winning team.

Meanwhile, our young core is showing a lot of promise. Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo look improved, JJJ and Nikola Jovic are making strides too. Sure, we're off to a 1-3 start, but let's put that into context. We rested our top players during some of those games and faced off against two of the league's top four teams on the road.

So, while the rich may be getting richer, we're building something sustainable here. And sometimes, that's more valuable in the long run.

I want a championship in the Jimmy Butler era, all that other **** is irrelevant. If you’re not helping us win now you can get out for someone who can

I want another chip too! With that said, in the last dozen years, we have had one of the most successful NBA franchises to watch. If it’s championship or bust for me as a Heat fan, might as well stop watching sports as I will undoubtedly live a life of disappointment and dissatisfaction as the likelyhood of my teams winning a championship all the time is slim.

I watch Heat basketball and am a fan of the team for more than the championships. Rooting for our guys means more to me than selling our guys and hiring an unliked mercenary like Harden.

It’s not that Heat FO can’t get it done anymore, it’s that they are choosing to draw a line in the sand.

The older Jimmy gets the slimmer that championship window gets and there’s no telling when we’ll be in this position again. At least if we went all in we could live with the fact that we know we did all we could and fell short. This organization and its players preach championship or bust so as fans we expect them to do whatever it takes to back that up. If they’re not willing to then cool but stop building up false expectations year after year.

We have been right there for 4 years now and just refuse to do anything to improve and when the opportunities come up the FO/Ownership can’t get it done. This season will just be more of the same, preach championships, the front office will sit on its hands at the deadline, and if we make the playoffs again it will be Jimmy and Bam killing themselves trying to lift this team to the top but will ultimately fall short at some point due to an overwhelming difference in talent at a certain point.

Rinse and repeat. Trust me I’m thankful to be a Heat fan and we’re on of the most if not the most successful organizations in the league since we drafted Wade but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep making that extra effort to be among the leagues elite and win some more rings.

[Hallstar]

Riddle me this...... If Spo won't play Jovic because he isn't ready...... why does he play guys from the local Y ahead of him? In what world are a bunch of guys that.... by every metric performed by people paid millions of dollars to evaluate talent deemed that they had no NBA skill.... more ready than a 1st round pick?

Reliably doing what you're expected to do means more than raw talent for role players.

Jovic grabbing the board and getting us across halfcourt with 20 secs or more left is a lot more enjoyable to watch though

[MiamiLoyal926]

I want a championship in the Jimmy Butler era, all that other **** is irrelevant. If you’re not helping us win now you can get out for someone who can

I want another chip too! With that said, in the last dozen years, we have had one of the most successful NBA franchises to watch. If it’s championship or bust for me as a Heat fan, might as well stop watching sports as I will undoubtedly live a life of disappointment and dissatisfaction as the likelyhood of my teams winning a championship all the time is slim.

I watch Heat basketball and am a fan of the team for more than the championships. Rooting for our guys means more to me than selling our guys and hiring an unliked mercenary like Harden.

It’s not that Heat FO can’t get it done anymore, it’s that they are choosing to draw a line in the sand.

The older Jimmy gets the slimmer that championship window gets and there’s no telling when we’ll be in this position again. At least if we went all in we could live with the fact that we know we did all we could and fell short. This organization and its players preach championship or bust so as fans we expect them to do whatever it takes to back that up. If they’re not willing to then cool but stop building up false expectations year after year.

We have been right there for 4 years now and just refuse to do anything to improve and when the opportunities come up the FO/Ownership can’t get it done. This season will just be more of the same, preach championships, the front office will sit on its hands at the deadline, and if we make the playoffs again it will be Jimmy and Bam killing themselves trying to lift this team to the top but will ultimately fall short at some point due to an overwhelming difference in talent at a certain point.

Rinse and repeat. Trust me I’m thankful to be a Heat fan and we’re on of the most if not the most successful organizations in the league since we drafted Wade but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep making that extra effort to be among the leagues elite and win some more rings.

I am going to root for this season to be about Jimmy, Bam, AND Herro killing themselves trying to lift this team, while the rest of our depth gives teams problems in every other position… not just Jimmy and Bam as you put it.

One thing I do need resolved is that Lowry and Dru are doodoo and we need an upgrade at point so that Herro can not play point.

[MiamiLoyal926]

Riddle me this...... If Spo won't play Jovic because he isn't ready...... why does he play guys from the local Y ahead of him? In what world are a bunch of guys that.... by every metric performed by people paid millions of dollars to evaluate talent deemed that they had no NBA skill.... more ready than a 1st round pick?

Reliably doing what you're expected to do means more than raw talent for role players.

Jovic grabbing the board and getting us across halfcourt with 20 secs or more left is a lot more enjoyable to watch though

I do enjoy watching Jovic’s motor.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I want another chip too! With that said, in the last dozen years, we have had one of the most successful NBA franchises to watch. If it’s championship or bust for me as a Heat fan, might as well stop watching sports as I will undoubtedly live a life of disappointment and dissatisfaction as the likelyhood of my teams winning a championship all the time is slim.

I watch Heat basketball and am a fan of the team for more than the championships. Rooting for our guys means more to me than selling our guys and hiring an unliked mercenary like Harden.

It’s not that Heat FO can’t get it done anymore, it’s that they are choosing to draw a line in the sand.

The older Jimmy gets the slimmer that championship window gets and there’s no telling when we’ll be in this position again. At least if we went all in we could live with the fact that we know we did all we could and fell short. This organization and its players preach championship or bust so as fans we expect them to do whatever it takes to back that up. If they’re not willing to then cool but stop building up false expectations year after year.

We have been right there for 4 years now and just refuse to do anything to improve and when the opportunities come up the FO/Ownership can’t get it done. This season will just be more of the same, preach championships, the front office will sit on its hands at the deadline, and if we make the playoffs again it will be Jimmy and Bam killing themselves trying to lift this team to the top but will ultimately fall short at some point due to an overwhelming difference in talent at a certain point.

Rinse and repeat. Trust me I’m thankful to be a Heat fan and we’re on of the most if not the most successful organizations in the league since we drafted Wade but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep making that extra effort to be among the leagues elite and win some more rings.

I am going to root for this season to be about Jimmy, Bam, AND Herro killing themselves trying to lift this team, while the rest of our depth gives teams problems in every other position… not just Jimmy and Bam as you put it.

One thing I do need resolved is that Lowry and Dru are doodoo and we need an upgrade at point so that Herro can not play point.

I mean that’s fine but ultimately the end result is going to be the same

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I also agree Jovic should be starting over Love. Love is a 2nd unit guy at best. Him and Lowry are massive holes as starters. Jovic has shown more promise in his 2 stints this season than Love probably ever has in a Heat jersey. He brings a whole new dynamic too

[MiamiLoyal926]

I also agree Jovic should be starting over Love. Love is a 2nd unit guy at best. Him and Lowry are massive holes as starters. Jovic has shown more promise in his 2 stints this season than Love probably ever has in a Heat jersey. He brings a whole new dynamic too

Love is playing really well too… and even then, I think Jovic has had a greater positive impact. Jovic should start and Love get second unit burn more as a vet for the kids like JJJ and Bryant.

When Highsmith returns… then things will get interesting.

[wade44]

Wouldn’t have given up half that much for Harden. Re-signing him in the off-season is now the clippers problem also

[fishfuego.]

The rich get richer!!

“See I told you the Heat wouldn’t trade for Harden”

Congrats, you were right and your team missed out on another opportunity to fill a MASSIVE need. Great job!

The Sixers didn't just get expiring players in return; they got an entire asset package including two first-round picks, a pick swap, and two second-round picks. That's a hefty sum to match, especially when you consider that they also managed to offload PJ Tucker's salary for a cleaner cap situation. Frankly, I don't think the Heat should or could have outbid that.

As for Damian Lillard, it's looking like we might have dodged a bullet there. His early-season performance hasn't been up to his usual standards; both his shooting and playmaking numbers are down. Sometimes it's a different ball game when you're not on a winning team.

Meanwhile, our young core is showing a lot of promise. Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo look improved, JJJ and Nikola Jovic are making strides too. Sure, we're off to a 1-3 start, but let's put that into context. We rested our top players during some of those games and faced off against two of the league's top four teams on the road.

So, while the rich may be getting richer, we're building something sustainable here. And sometimes, that's more valuable in the long run.

I want a championship in the Jimmy Butler era, all that other **** is irrelevant. If you’re not helping us win now you can get out for someone who can

I don’t think we can compete with the likes of Denver, nor the top dogs as currently constructed, but we do have a pretty good young core in place, so I wouldn’t mind trading Jimmy Butler for a whole lot of assets to a contending team of his choice, or bring in that one piece that would put us at top tier level of contenders, but I just don’t see how that would happen.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I also agree Jovic should be starting over Love. Love is a 2nd unit guy at best. Him and Lowry are massive holes as starters. Jovic has shown more promise in his 2 stints this season than Love probably ever has in a Heat jersey. He brings a whole new dynamic too

Love is playing really well too… and even then, I think Jovic has had a greater positive impact. Jovic should start and Love get second unit burn more as a vet for the kids like JJJ and Bryant.

When Highsmith returns… then things will get interesting.

Highsmith honestly slipped my mind, I think he’s developing into a great 3 and D guy. He’s probably my favorite to start

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The Sixers didn't just get expiring players in return; they got an entire asset package including two first-round picks, a pick swap, and two second-round picks. That's a hefty sum to match, especially when you consider that they also managed to offload PJ Tucker's salary for a cleaner cap situation. Frankly, I don't think the Heat should or could have outbid that.

As for Damian Lillard, it's looking like we might have dodged a bullet there. His early-season performance hasn't been up to his usual standards; both his shooting and playmaking numbers are down. Sometimes it's a different ball game when you're not on a winning team.

Meanwhile, our young core is showing a lot of promise. Tyler Herro, Bam Adebayo look improved, JJJ and Nikola Jovic are making strides too. Sure, we're off to a 1-3 start, but let's put that into context. We rested our top players during some of those games and faced off against two of the league's top four teams on the road.

So, while the rich may be getting richer, we're building something sustainable here. And sometimes, that's more valuable in the long run.

I want a championship in the Jimmy Butler era, all that other **** is irrelevant. If you’re not helping us win now you can get out for someone who can

I don’t think we can compete with the likes of Denver, nor the top dogs as currently constructed, but we do have a pretty good young core in place, so I wouldn’t mind trading Jimmy Butler for a whole lot of assets to a contending team of his choice, or bring in that one piece that would put us at top tier level of contenders, but I just don’t see how that would happen.

We’ve had our chances and blew it countless times, we’re not going to make moves.

[MiamiLoyal926]

The older Jimmy gets the slimmer that championship window gets and there’s no telling when we’ll be in this position again. At least if we went all in we could live with the fact that we know we did all we could and fell short. This organization and its players preach championship or bust so as fans we expect them to do whatever it takes to back that up. If they’re not willing to then cool but stop building up false expectations year after year.

We have been right there for 4 years now and just refuse to do anything to improve and when the opportunities come up the FO/Ownership can’t get it done. This season will just be more of the same, preach championships, the front office will sit on its hands at the deadline, and if we make the playoffs again it will be Jimmy and Bam killing themselves trying to lift this team to the top but will ultimately fall short at some point due to an overwhelming difference in talent at a certain point.

Rinse and repeat. Trust me I’m thankful to be a Heat fan and we’re on of the most if not the most successful organizations in the league since we drafted Wade but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep making that extra effort to be among the leagues elite and win some more rings.

I am going to root for this season to be about Jimmy, Bam, AND Herro killing themselves trying to lift this team, while the rest of our depth gives teams problems in every other position… not just Jimmy and Bam as you put it.

One thing I do need resolved is that Lowry and Dru are doodoo and we need an upgrade at point so that Herro can not play point.

I mean that’s fine but ultimately the end result is going to be the same

I would not mind another run to the finals! Bring it!