**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

[greg4012]

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??? I don't understand this statement. Those seem like 2 conflicting sentences. If he kills it everywhere, and lottery teams want to give him a promise, why not go with the lottery teams? He gets more money that way.

My guess is promises are often contingent upon a player cancelling remaining workouts. If not, what's the point for the team promising aside from good vibes?

None of this is really enforceable anyways

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Shades of Devin Booker. Minus 2.5" in height, 4.5" in standing reach, and 5 inches in wingspan (and not as quick in any of the agility testing)

Heard him in interview that most teams view him as an off ball guard to start off with. Same as he did at Duke. He's not viewed as a natural creator. I think he's going to slip a bit in the draft due to his size, length, and speed. Also was mentioned that teams want to see him be able to go against quicker guards defensively.

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[lastb1ckman]

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Man these knee injuries are probably really gonna hurt him in where he lands. I can't believe they hid this so much.

[MettaWorldPanda]

A team with cap space and not in any hurry to compete are the ones with the means to redshirt him and wait on the 2-3 year development plan. Not sure you can put us in that category. The Spurs have been rumored to wanting to sign Tyus Jones to join his brother so Spurs can take him at 8 and wait on him to get healthy.

[lastb1ckman]

A team with cap space and not in any hurry to compete are the ones with the means to redshirt him and wait on the 2-3 year development plan. Not sure you can put us in that category. The Spurs have been rumored to wanting to sign Tyus Jones to join his brother so Spurs can take him at 8 and wait on him to get healthy.

Tre Jones, Tyus Jones, and Topic? That's a lot of PGs lol. They saw Sochan run into 3 defenders instead of passing to Wemby in the paint 1 too many times.

[MettaWorldPanda]

A team with cap space and not in any hurry to compete are the ones with the means to redshirt him and wait on the 2-3 year development plan. Not sure you can put us in that category. The Spurs have been rumored to wanting to sign Tyus Jones to join his brother so Spurs can take him at 8 and wait on him to get healthy.

Tre Jones, Tyus Jones, and Topic? That's a lot of PGs lol. They saw Sochan run into 3 defenders instead of passing to Wemby in the paint 1 too many times.

Tyus would be like a 2 year stop gap. Spurs might not even want to deal with the knee issues either with all the other players on the board so Topic could genuinely slide out of the lottery. The Jazz are also a potential team that can draft and stash since they have some depth at guard already. The next stop would be the Raptors at 19 who have a Serbian head coach and most likely knows of Topic.

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[greg4012]

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[twix2500]

I am curious if Castle has impressed teams as a point guard in private workouts. These demands that he must play point by the team he is drafted is wild. I am just waiting to hear Castle wow a team with his point guard skills in workouts.

[lastb1ckman]

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Yeah if players aren't leaping over folks like Ja, or flying past them like John Wall a lot of people think they're slow pokes. A lot of it comes down to stopping and starting speed, utilizing angles, and using size properly. Luka is one of the best at that. DWade was too, along with having that top tier speed and leaping ability at his peak.

[greg4012]

Count me IN on drafting Topic and redshirting him (as long as medicals are clear that he should be back to 100%)

I know it's cliche, but he's A LOT like Dragic.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Count me IN on drafting Topic and redshirting him (as long as medicals are clear that he should be back to 100%)

We can barely afford a ham sandwich right now without getting double taxed for it because of the aprons. Not sure how you draft Topic when we got so many holes to fill. If we trade Jimmy then sure. Give me Collier instead.

[MettaWorldPanda]

With Riley stressing about player availability, would be real rich of us to take Topic.

[greg4012]

Count me IN on drafting Topic and redshirting him (as long as medicals are clear that he should be back to 100%)

We can barely afford a ham sandwich right now without getting double taxed for it because of the aprons. Not sure how you draft Topic when we got so many holes to fill. If we trade Jimmy then sure. Give me Collier instead.

I'm not subscribing to the idea of drafting with a hand tied behind our back due to cap concerns when able to take action to remedy the issue. Make subsequent trades.

Miami redshirted Jovic and are reaping the benefits. Miami needs to maximize their available FRPs IMO. Some have higher floors and still have ceilings (Holmes & Carter). Many of the most talented potential prospects will likely require some sort of redshirt year and shouldn't be expected to make a major impact year 1 (Ware, Collier, Carrington). Da Silva is rock steady floor with limited ceiling.

[greg4012]

With Riley stressing about player availability, would be real rich of us to take Topic.

You'll get there

[MettaWorldPanda]

With Riley stressing about player availability, would be real rich of us to take Topic.

You'll get there

I like what i see out of Topic. I was talking about him a few days ago. I don’t like the idea of a minimum 2 year project due to the knee injury. I want the player we draft learning on the job this year. Even if it’s a the G league

[greg4012]

With Riley stressing about player availability, would be real rich of us to take Topic.

You'll get there

I like what i see out of Topic. I was talking about him a few days ago. I don’t like the idea of a minimum 2 year project due to the knee injury. I want the player we draft learning on the job this year. Even if it’s a the G league

Where is 2 years coming from? ACLs are 6-8 month injuries these days for professional athletes with being back to 100% performance within 12 months as if never even injured (especially players so young and afforded professional rehab resources). Even if it was a full ACL tear (which it's not), he should be back for part of his rookie season if he and the organization want him to start getting reps.

[MettaWorldPanda]

You'll get there

I like what i see out of Topic. I was talking about him a few days ago. I don’t like the idea of a minimum 2 year project due to the knee injury. I want the player we draft learning on the job this year. Even if it’s a the G league

Where is 2 years coming from? ACLs are 6-8 month injuries these days for professional athletes with being back to 100% performance within 12 months as if never even injured (especially players so young and afforded professional rehab resources). Even if it was a full ACL tear (which it's not), he should be back for part of his rookie season if he and the organization want him to start getting reps.

I mentioned two years cause the first actual NBA year is the learning curve year. Spo is also very stubborn with young players if they don’t come in with alot of experience.

[greg4012]

I like what i see out of Topic. I was talking about him a few days ago. I don’t like the idea of a minimum 2 year project due to the knee injury. I want the player we draft learning on the job this year. Even if it’s a the G league

Where is 2 years coming from? ACLs are 6-8 month injuries these days for professional athletes with being back to 100% performance within 12 months as if never even injured (especially players so young and afforded professional rehab resources). Even if it was a full ACL tear (which it's not), he should be back for part of his rookie season if he and the organization want him to start getting reps.

I mentioned two years cause the first actual NBA year is the learning curve year. Spo is also very stubborn with young players if they don’t come in with alot of experience.

Sounds like you're ready to forego drafting young players because they take time. With how the CBA is structured with drafting teams getting to effectively keep control of top talent for the first 6+ or so years of their career, you gotta eat the early developmental phases for top talent.

Half of Topic's game is his BBIQ. It shouldn't take him 2 years to learn how to run a NBA pick and roll and earn minutes over Alondes Williams and the next G League option in the pipeline. It doesn't have to be so complicated. There are no guarantees with any alternatives.

[twix2500]

I like what i see out of Topic. I was talking about him a few days ago. I don’t like the idea of a minimum 2 year project due to the knee injury. I want the player we draft learning on the job this year. Even if it’s a the G league

Where is 2 years coming from? ACLs are 6-8 month injuries these days for professional athletes with being back to 100% performance within 12 months as if never even injured (especially players so young and afforded professional rehab resources). Even if it was a full ACL tear (which it's not), he should be back for part of his rookie season if he and the organization want him to start getting reps.

I mentioned two years cause the first actual NBA year is the learning curve year. Spo is also very stubborn with young players if they don’t come in with alot of experience.

MWP is right. Its two year to "fully" recover. A player cleared to play doesnt mean he fully recovered. The second year when a player returns he is still rehabbing to get to his max recover.

"Joint health and function is not indicated until two-years after ACLR. We advocate significantly delaying returning to sport to at least two years after ACLR. Anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction."

"Athletes passed return to sport criteria 232 ± 99 days after ACLR. One year after ACL reconstruction 95% had returned to sport, 78% at their preinjury level. Two years after ACL reconstruction all athletes had returned to sport, 95% at their preinjury level and only one athlete had a second ACL injury."