Heats v. Venison Roast, 4/26, 9:30pm THE ROPE-A-DOPE

[3ballbomber]

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this was extremely important, it changed the dynamic of the game in a very crucial moment of the game.

So are all of you ready to eat your words about our coach, a top 3 coach in the league, and how truly great he is? And very easily arguable as the BEST coach in the league, since I can't think of another coach that could have this type of roster overachieving year after year in different ways?

After Jimmy, he is absolutely the reason we are in the situation we are in, by a long shot.

He coached his ass off and put Jimmy in positions to continue to succeed no matter how they tried to guard him and the focus they put on him.
He overcame the ups and many downs of Bam's inconsistence on the offensive end, and had him following a brilliant defensive game plan against Giannis.
He had Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin out there playing their damn asses off, and they came up big for us in HUGE moments in these last two games.
And his game plan on both sides of the ball were fantastic and exactly what we needed. He shat all over Bud and may have even put him out of job by week's end lol.

I do NOT want to hear yall call it all on the players, because whenever the players play like **** yall blame Spo (because of limited understanding of basketball, really). So now, with that same limited understanding of ball, give our coach some damn credit please

Louder for the people in the back. Fans only complain after losses. After wins....quite as church mice, just like yesterday & gm4......quite. You can't pick & choose when Spo is bad or not depending on loss or wins.

He's done more w/ less than some teams & most coaches cld handle & recently w/ what Bucks had to work with - Imagine Spo equipped w/ that much talent considering what his achieved w/ this roster.

Look what he did w/ no Herro, dipo, undrafted scrubs (as some of you claim). Look at our starting line up lol. Yet look where we are at this point of the PO's, look what we just did to the #1 seed. Spo's no chump & the Heat org & i ride with him.

I stated during the bubble run & reinforced last season in the ECF, where we were a Jimmy 3 away from another NBA Finals in 3 seasons, we achieved those in spite of height (& injuries to boot). Had Dragic & Bam been healthy in the bubble finals cld we have possibly won a title being one of the smallest teams in the league - again we pushed LA to 6 games in spite of height & being depleted. Had Jimmy made that shot & we faced Warriors, win or lose we'd have achieved that w/ small ball (again injuries)....possibly even won.

There's a reason Spo was made assistant coach for Team USA. You don't get that job if you're sh*t. Heat fans are blessed and they act like our very own are garbage. That's simply lack of appreciation & it's quite a poor mindset.

[3ballbomber]

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It's a devastating loss because they're the #1 seed w/ the best record in the league & lost to the 8th seed. Furthermore they won just 1 frickin game. So Gianis making it out like it's not failure is a a complete cop out. He's smiply not a killer and you cld see that in gm5 when he played hot potato w/ the ball & then w/ his answer & defensive reaction to the reporters question. Cld you imagine Jimmy in his shoes saying it's not failure? It's one of the biggest collapse and implosions i've seen watching the NBA. Coach will be fired & players will be traded.....

Will they move away from the twin towers? It's failed twice now vs our small ball. Lopez is a FA in the summer, i'd love that tall, 3pt shooting sonnofabitch here. He'd round out this team nicely.

[Vertical Limit]

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this was extremely important, it changed the dynamic of the game in a very crucial moment of the game.

So are all of you ready to eat your words about our coach, a top 3 coach in the league, and how truly great he is? And very easily arguable as the BEST coach in the league, since I can't think of another coach that could have this type of roster overachieving year after year in different ways?

After Jimmy, he is absolutely the reason we are in the situation we are in, by a long shot.

He coached his ass off and put Jimmy in positions to continue to succeed no matter how they tried to guard him and the focus they put on him.
He overcame the ups and many downs of Bam's inconsistence on the offensive end, and had him following a brilliant defensive game plan against Giannis.
He had Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin out there playing their damn asses off, and they came up big for us in HUGE moments in these last two games.
And his game plan on both sides of the ball were fantastic and exactly what we needed. He shat all over Bud and may have even put him out of job by week's end lol.

I do NOT want to hear yall call it all on the players, because whenever the players play like **** yall blame Spo (because of limited understanding of basketball, really). So now, with that same limited understanding of ball, give our coach some damn credit please

Louder for the people in the back. Fans only complain after losses. After wins....quite as church mice, just like yesterday & gm4......quite. You can't pick & choose when Spo is bad or not depending on loss or wins.

He's done more w/ less than some teams & most coaches cld handle & recently w/ what Bucks had to work with - Imagine Spo equipped w/ that much talent considering what his achieved w/ this roster.

Look what he did w/ no Herro, dipo, undrafted scrubs (as some of you claim). Look at our starting line up lol. Yet look where we are at this point of the PO's, look what we just did to the #1 seed. Spo's no chump & the Heat org & i ride with him.

I stated during the bubble run & reinforced last season in the ECF, where we were a Jimmy 3 away from another NBA Finals in 3 seasons, we achieved those in spite of height (& injuries to boot). Had Dragic & Bam been healthy in the bubble finals cld we have possibly won a title being one of the smallest teams in the league - again we pushed LA to 6 games in spite of height & being depleted. Had Jimmy made that shot & we faced Warriors, win or lose we'd have achieved that w/ small ball (again injuries)....possibly even won.

There's a reason Spo was made assistant coach for Team USA. You don't get that job if you're sh*t. Heat fans are blessed and they act like our very own are garbage. That's simply lack of appreciation & it's quite a poor mindset.

Im one of the biggest defenders of spo on these boards. Ive said it before and ill say it again, none of you all want to see a reality where Spoelstra is no longer on the Heat. We will be lottery bound for the next decade. Hes regarded as a top 5 coach in the NBA and some have him as a top 15 coach all time for a reason. You cant even use the Lebron/Wade/Bosh argument anymore because hes coached teams deep into the playoffs and even a finals run without those 3.

Hes done more than most, with less talent than most. He deserves nothing but respect around here.

[3ballbomber]

Spoiler:

this was extremely important, it changed the dynamic of the game in a very crucial moment of the game.

So are all of you ready to eat your words about our coach, a top 3 coach in the league, and how truly great he is? And very easily arguable as the BEST coach in the league, since I can't think of another coach that could have this type of roster overachieving year after year in different ways?

After Jimmy, he is absolutely the reason we are in the situation we are in, by a long shot.

He coached his ass off and put Jimmy in positions to continue to succeed no matter how they tried to guard him and the focus they put on him.
He overcame the ups and many downs of Bam's inconsistence on the offensive end, and had him following a brilliant defensive game plan against Giannis.
He had Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin out there playing their damn asses off, and they came up big for us in HUGE moments in these last two games.
And his game plan on both sides of the ball were fantastic and exactly what we needed. He shat all over Bud and may have even put him out of job by week's end lol.

I do NOT want to hear yall call it all on the players, because whenever the players play like **** yall blame Spo (because of limited understanding of basketball, really). So now, with that same limited understanding of ball, give our coach some damn credit please

Louder for the people in the back. Fans only complain after losses. After wins....quite as church mice, just like yesterday & gm4......quite. You can't pick & choose when Spo is bad or not depending on loss or wins.

He's done more w/ less than some teams & most coaches cld handle & recently w/ what Bucks had to work with - Imagine Spo equipped w/ that much talent considering what his achieved w/ this roster.

Look what he did w/ no Herro, dipo, undrafted scrubs (as some of you claim). Look at our starting line up lol. Yet look where we are at this point of the PO's, look what we just did to the #1 seed. Spo's no chump & the Heat org & i ride with him.

I stated during the bubble run & reinforced last season in the ECF, where we were a Jimmy 3 away from another NBA Finals in 3 seasons, we achieved those in spite of height (& injuries to boot). Had Dragic & Bam been healthy in the bubble finals cld we have possibly won a title being one of the smallest teams in the league - again we pushed LA to 6 games in spite of height & being depleted. Had Jimmy made that shot & we faced Warriors, win or lose we'd have achieved that w/ small ball (again injuries)....possibly even won.

There's a reason Spo was made assistant coach for Team USA. You don't get that job if you're sh*t. Heat fans are blessed and they act like our very own are garbage. That's simply lack of appreciation & it's quite a poor mindset.

Im one of the biggest defenders of spo on these boards. Ive said it before and ill say it again, none of you all want to see a reality where Spoelstra is no longer on the Heat. We will be lottery bound for the next decade. Hes regarded as a top 5 coach in the NBA and some have him as a top 15 coach all time for a reason. You cant even use the Lebron/Wade/Bosh argument anymore because hes coached teams deep into the playoffs and even a finals run without those 3.

Hes done more than most, with less talent than most. He deserves nothing but respect around here.

We wouldn't have anything to feel good about right now. Instead we're looking forward to a round 2 war vs old rivals NY.

[Miami_Lux]

Someone get Bam out of this game. It's giving nothing vibes.

We need Bosh vs Bam comparison thread

This aged like milk

Regular season: 20.4 PPG, 54%FG
Playoffs so far: 17.4 PPG, 46%FG

Herro and Dipo are out on offense. We needed Bam to become the second option on offense and AT LEAST average his regular season output on offense. Instead he has regressed offensively in the playoffs. Again.
That being said I think I have accepted his limitations on offense. It is what it is. If he can still be an elite defender and impact the game in other ways as he did yesterday I m ok with that.

[dolphinatik]

Gabe Vincent was nice ealy. I completely didnt expect to win this series at all. Well done Heat. Well done.

[3ballbomber]

We need Bosh vs Bam comparison thread

This aged like milk

Regular season: 20.4 PPG, 54%FG
Playoffs so far: 17.4 PPG, 46%FG

Herro and Dipo are out on offense. We needed Bam to become the second option on offense and AT LEAST average his regular season output on offense. Instead he has regressed offensively in the playoffs. Again.
That being said I think I have accepted his limitations on offense. It is what it is. If he can still be an elite defender and impact the game in other ways as he did yesterday I m ok with that.

This.

1st off fanboy will defend him to no end. That's pure definition of a homer. but that's established around this community. Just put him on foes list to limit the toxicity & stupidity.

2ndly that's the correct mindset & approach w/ Bam. He's not that guy & as i've stated we have to stop expecting him to be. Like i said, if Jimmy, Riles & Spo are ok w/ Bam impacting the gm w/ everything else but his offense then fans have to as well. If they're not pushing him to score then we can't expect it because that doesnt seem to be the organisations game plan w/ Bam.

It won't make it less agitating to watch but this may eliminate any frustrations. Once we add that other star player we'll expect less of Bam to pick up any offensive slack & just let him do his DHO's & defense.

I am hopeful that Bam will continue to work on his game, his footwork, skillset, toughness & mindset & in future he will become a dangerous player. He may even become a 3pt shooter. He's in the right place to develop. If his 30+ & still scared to shoot that's a diff story. For now he's 25yo - let's wait & be patient w/ his evolution.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We need Bosh vs Bam comparison thread

This aged like milk

Regular season: 20.4 PPG, 54%FG
Playoffs so far: 17.4 PPG, 46%FG

Herro and Dipo are out on offense. We needed Bam to become the second option on offense and AT LEAST average his regular season output on offense. Instead he has regressed offensively in the playoffs. Again.
That being said I think I have accepted his limitations on offense. It is what it is. If he can still be an elite defender and impact the game in other ways as he did yesterday I m ok with that.

So we’re just going to ignore the fact that he was playing on 1 leg and 2 of the games were massive blowouts therefore he didn’t play much and/or his scoring wasn’t needed?

What’s funny is you wanted to compare it to Bosh, Bams game 5 was arguably better than any game we got from Bosh in the playoffs and his 17.4-8.6-5.0-1.6 on 46% shooting is better than any playoff run we got from Bosh in a Heat jersey and Bosh playoff career averages are 15.6-7.5-1.6 on 47% shooting and this doesn’t factor in Bams better defense and higher impact

So yea, it aged like milk. Let’s hope these 3 days off help him get that hamstring right, luckily there’s another 3 day break after game 2.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This aged like milk

Regular season: 20.4 PPG, 54%FG
Playoffs so far: 17.4 PPG, 46%FG

Herro and Dipo are out on offense. We needed Bam to become the second option on offense and AT LEAST average his regular season output on offense. Instead he has regressed offensively in the playoffs. Again.
That being said I think I have accepted his limitations on offense. It is what it is. If he can still be an elite defender and impact the game in other ways as he did yesterday I m ok with that.

This.

1st off fanboy will defend him to no end. That's pure definition of a homer. but that's established around this community. Just put him on foes list to limit the toxicity & stupidity.

2ndly that's the correct mindset & approach w/ Bam. He's not that guy & as i've stated we have to stop expecting him to be. Like i said, if Jimmy, Riles & Spo are ok w/ Bam impacting the gm w/ everything else but his offense then fans have to as well. If they're not pushing him to score then we can't expect it because that doesnt seem to be the organisations game plan w/ Bam.

It won't make it less agitating to watch but this may eliminate any frustrations. Once we add that other star player we'll expect less of Bam to pick up any offensive slack & just let him do his DHO's & defense.

I am hopeful that Bam will continue to work on his game, his footwork, skillset, toughness & mindset & in future he will become a dangerous player. He may even become a 3pt shooter. He's in the right place to develop. If his 30+ & still scared to shoot that's a diff story. For now he's 25yo - let's wait & be patient w/ his evolution.

You mention the FOE list like you don’t obsess over me on here, you and like 4 others on here obsess over me because I called you out on some dumb **** you said about Bam just like you, a Riley homer, does when someone says something about Pat. You all mention me at minimum like once a day and have to comment on anything involving me, it’s weird as fuxk honestly lol but I realize you all don’t understand much and aren’t very knowledgeable outside of PPG because well……..I think that’s pretty self explanatory.

You just watched Bam take over the 4th quarter and OT of a series clinching win against the most dominant player in the world head to head and you all didn’t say a damn thing after a week worth of bitching because he wasn’t scoring as much as you all wanted outside of games 1 and 5 while we were still winning games and his impact was showing elsewhere

Hopefully you’ll learn with time and better educate yourself the more you watch.

[KingDavid]

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[Phinsoverpats]

Wow!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Just went to the GB thread and lost hella brain cells. Saw Knicks fans say Brunson is better than Jimmy, Brunson is harder to guard than Giannis, and the Knicks have way better defenders than the Bucks. Yea I’m off that lol

[3ballbomber]

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Jimmy celebration is while he's collecting souls, so he's done. After he just bored as f*ck & let everybody else celebrate

& that ain't water.....it's acid.

[Tony15]

Just went to the GB thread and lost hella brain cells. Saw Knicks fans say Brunson is better than Jimmy, Brunson is harder to guard than Giannis, and the Knicks have way better defenders than the Bucks. Yea I’m off that lol

Brunson presents a different kind of problem to Giannis.....but unlike CLE we have guys who should be more than able to keep him in front on the perimeter, Bam included. My biggest concern is honestly Mitchell Robinson. He isn't the threat offensively Brook Lopez is, but he's more mobile and active on the offensive glass. He punked Mobley and Jared Allen all series, but Bam is physically stronger than both those dudes combined.

[HIF]

Spo again proves he's the man. Haters gonna hate.

[El Alonzo scowl]

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Nah I'm good. That's the most delusional fanbase in all basketball. They win one playoff series per decade and they think they're god's gift to basketball as a result. We already did this song and dance a decade ago. You can't fix stupid.

[DayofMourning]

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Nah I'm good. That's the most delusional fanbase in all basketball. They win one playoff series per decade and they think they're god's gift to basketball as a result. We already did this song and dance a decade ago. You can't fix stupid.

Dudes just watched Jimmy and Co. knock out the top seed at their house and theyre screaming Jalen Brunson FTW! Knix in 5! Good grief.

[El Alonzo scowl]

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Nah I'm good. That's the most delusional fanbase in all basketball. They win one playoff series per decade and they think they're god's gift to basketball as a result. We already did this song and dance a decade ago. You can't fix stupid.

Dudes just watched Jimmy and Co. knock out the top seed at their house and theyre screaming Jalen Brunson FTW! Knix in 5! Good grief.

10 years ago: MELO! STAT! DA GAHDEN! KNICKS BACK! THEY SCARED NOW! CHAMPIONSHIP!

One playoff series win.

[spectrec130]

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No Baiting? Well that's no fun!

[shanedude]

Not worried about the Knicks fan base. They'll drown in despair after the Knicks are obliterated in game 1.