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Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright

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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#1481 » by DayofMourning » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:40 pm

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KingDavid wrote:I thought Beal had a say in where he went and he told the wizards he wanted to join Phoenix and not Miami. Am I misremembering here?

Beal wanted Miami and the place he wanted to go to, called us directly we said we needed to think about and said aiight cool, waited for a response, thought he was gonna be here doing his thing, we called back said nah pass.

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We couldve gotten Beal and KP if I remember correctly. Wouldve stopped the Celtics from becoming much much stronger for sure.
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Post#1482 » by TroubleS0me » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:17 pm

Duncan got some votes
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#1483 » by twix2500 » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:36 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
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IceColdCubano wrote:Beal wanted Miami and the place he wanted to go to, called us directly we said we needed to think about and said aiight cool, waited for a response, thought he was gonna be here doing his thing, we called back said nah pass.

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We couldve gotten Beal and KP if I remember correctly. Wouldve stopped the Celtics from becoming much much stronger for sure.


Not sure what the thinking was on Miami part. I do believe the Lillard was communicating with Miami on his intentions before Beal became available. So that may have something to do with it. It will be interesting to see the direction the Heat goes this summer. I am thinking the Heat are gonna do a rebuild and its not gonna be a short quick one.
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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright 

Post#1484 » by eddieheatfan » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:02 am

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eddieheatfan wrote: what a shame


We couldve gotten Beal and KP if I remember correctly. Wouldve stopped the Celtics from becoming much much stronger for sure.


Not sure what the thinking was on Miami part. I do believe the Lillard was communicating with Miami on his intentions before Beal became available. So that may have something to do with it. It will be interesting to see the direction the Heat goes this summer. I am thinking the Heat are gonna do a rebuild and its not gonna be a short quick one.


they have to. there's no other way as of today. jimmy and other players have to go. duncan and herro are gone of that i'm sure. one because arthritis and the other because he is not what the fan base wants. he's disliked by the fans here and they have a reason to do so.

jimmy could be gone too. lets see what happens.
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Post#1485 » by DayofMourning » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:05 am

twix2500 wrote:Not sure what the thinking was on Miami part. I do believe the Lillard was communicating with Miami on his intentions before Beal became available. So that may have something to do with it. It will be interesting to see the direction the Heat goes this summer. I am thinking the Heat are gonna do a rebuild and its not gonna be a short quick one.


At some point you have to look at the draft as your primary avenue of improvement and strike when you can in free agency, not vice versa.

Weve shown we can be a player in both games but the draft has been good to us.
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Post#1486 » by DayofMourning » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:11 am

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they have to. there's no other way as of today. jimmy and other players have to go. duncan and herro are gone of that i'm sure. one because arthritis and the other because he is not what the fan base wants. he's disliked by the fans here and they have a reason to do so.

jimmy could be gone too. lets see what happens.


I like our current youth movement a lot and I think weve been on our A game in the draft recently when weve had our pick. One huge miss but other than that, super solid.

I just look at Jimmys financials and his age catching up to him and I think about trying to get out from under that. His body is telling him no too often.

I just dont want the Heat to toe the line. Pick a side. That side should result in getting a true blue chipper up in here.
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Post#1487 » by eddieheatfan » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:16 am

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they have to. there's no other way as of today. jimmy and other players have to go. duncan and herro are gone of that i'm sure. one because arthritis and the other because he is not what the fan base wants. he's disliked by the fans here and they have a reason to do so.

jimmy could be gone too. lets see what happens.


I like our current youth movement a lot and I think weve been on our A game in the draft recently when weve had our pick. One huge miss but other than that, super solid.

I just look at Jimmys financials and his age catching up to him and I think about trying to get out from under that. His body is telling him no too often.

I just dont want the Heat to toe the line. Pick a side. That side should result in getting a true blue chipper up in here.
i really like jimmy but his coasting during the regular seasons is getting old for me. i want to have fun watching this team play not be frustrated by the blowouts agaisnt good and not soo good teams

i'm not asking the heat to get rid of jacquez or jovic or even bam but everyone else should be fair game and see the boot this offseason. the product is leaves alot to be desired
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Post#1488 » by DayofMourning » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:23 am

eddieheatfan wrote:i really like jimmy but his coasting during the regular seasons is getting old for me. i want to have fun watching this team play not be frustrated by the blowouts agaisnt good and not soo good teams

i'm not asking the heat to get rid of jacquez or jovic or even bam but everyone else should be fair game and see the boot this offseason. the product is leaves alot to be desired


I can sort of stomach the Jimmyless days because of our young guys getting worked in because of it. However, hes been injured in 3 out of his 5 playoffs with us. Availability in the playoffs is crucial.

I like all our young dudes, even Herro. They need that lead performer though. I tell you, if the Heat tanked this coming season and kept their pick owed to OKC (protected 1-14) then theyd have a shot at about 3 blue chippers in the draft (Harper, Bailey, Flagg). Just sayin'.
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Post#1489 » by SoFlaKingReal » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:24 am

Nobody wanted Beal and that ridiculous contract except the drunkard owner in PHX….and he’s now paying Beal 50 million a year to have a worse team than last year lol
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Post#1490 » by DayofMourning » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:32 am

SoFlaKingReal wrote:Nobody wanted Beal and that ridiculous contract except the drunkard owner in PHX….and he’s now paying Beal 50 million a year to have a worse team than last year lol


I didnt like the direction they took after making the Finals. Teams sometime need to continue to grow. Those Suns are long gone.
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Post#1491 » by SoFlaKingReal » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:45 am

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:Nobody wanted Beal and that ridiculous contract except the drunkard owner in PHX….and he’s now paying Beal 50 million a year to have a worse team than last year lol


I didnt like the direction they took after making the Finals. Teams sometime need to continue to grow. Those Suns are long gone.


New owner thought he had all the answers and wanted to "win now".
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Post#1492 » by DayofMourning » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:08 am

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:Nobody wanted Beal and that ridiculous contract except the drunkard owner in PHX….and he’s now paying Beal 50 million a year to have a worse team than last year lol


I didnt like the direction they took after making the Finals. Teams sometime need to continue to grow. Those Suns are long gone.


New owner thought he had all the answers and wanted to "win now".


Pelicans did that with AD. Tried to upgrade too quick and threw everything out of whack. Let the dish cook for a bit. These dudes want fine dining but want to get it via drive thru. Patience.
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Post#1493 » by Wiltside » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:36 am

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:Nobody wanted Beal and that ridiculous contract except the drunkard owner in PHX….and he’s now paying Beal 50 million a year to have a worse team than last year lol


I didnt like the direction they took after making the Finals. Teams sometime need to continue to grow. Those Suns are long gone.


Sacrificed chemistry for on paper talent and it looks to have blown up in their face.
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Post#1494 » by DayofMourning » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:47 am

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:Nobody wanted Beal and that ridiculous contract except the drunkard owner in PHX….and he’s now paying Beal 50 million a year to have a worse team than last year lol


I didnt like the direction they took after making the Finals. Teams sometime need to continue to grow. Those Suns are long gone.


Sacrificed chemistry for on paper talent and it looks to have blown up in their face.


So bad. I swear the majority of teams completely botch draft rebuilds. Too eager. Its like a six year transition period.
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Post#1495 » by insfo » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:52 am

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KingDavid wrote:Unless y'all are prepared to get rid of Bam, we're likely not getting Mitchell. What assets do we have that outweigh the assets of other teams that are interested in him?


We are going to have to trade Bam at some point, but it won’t be for Mitchell. We are very steeply heading into a full rebuild. We can delay it until Jimmy is done, but it’s coming. Bam will be the only asset that possibly could get a meaningful return.

We have been trying to retool to account for 2 different timelines for a few years now. It’ll catch up to us eventually.


I was thinking about this just recently. The truest way to get ourselves out of the middling mess we are about to enter into is to move Bam. Hed fetch a big return. Imagine him going to OKC? Theyd give up a lot as he fits very well with their squad.

I love Bam but unless SGA says I hate OKC and want to go to Miami in offseason 2026, youre really just spinning your wheels.


Is that really a haul?? OKC are the top team in the west, so I guess that means they have the 29th pick next year. They have a really young core, and you are going to be adding Bam to it. So even assuming they gave us 5 1st rounders, do you see that being any better than the last few picks of the first round? We need picks from teams like the Nets or Pistons for this to make sense, not OKC!

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/thunder/21/draft-picks

Unless of course you are hoping to get a Chet or Jalen Williams, but even then it will be lateral moves at best and a downgrade in most people's books.
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Post#1496 » by marson » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:53 am

So potential early 1st round exit teams. Phoenix, LA, Miami, Philadelphia. Crazy times huh
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Post#1497 » by DayofMourning » Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:57 am

insfo wrote:Is that really a haul?? OKC are the top team in the west, so I guess that means they have the 29th pick next year. They have a really young core, and you are going to be adding Bam to it. So even assuming they gave us 5 1st rounders, do you see that being any better than the last few picks of the first round? We need picks from teams like the Nets or Pistons for this to make sense, not OKC!

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/thunder/21/draft-picks

Unless of course you are hoping to get a Chet or Jalen Williams, but even then it will be lateral moves at best and a downgrade in most people's books.


The haul is all the available picks OKC has from the trades theyve made. Theyve got a long list of assets. You could also ask for Jalen and Cason. Youd also expect the Heat to bottom out and have a high pick. Its a viable trade option.

Bam embodies the Heat though. Could NOT imagine them trading him.
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Post#1498 » by Beenie » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:02 am

DayofMourning wrote:
insfo wrote:Is that really a haul?? OKC are the top team in the west, so I guess that means they have the 29th pick next year. They have a really young core, and you are going to be adding Bam to it. So even assuming they gave us 5 1st rounders, do you see that being any better than the last few picks of the first round? We need picks from teams like the Nets or Pistons for this to make sense, not OKC!

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/thunder/21/draft-picks

Unless of course you are hoping to get a Chet or Jalen Williams, but even then it will be lateral moves at best and a downgrade in most people's books.


The haul is all the available picks OKC has from the trades theyve made. Theyve got a long list of assets. You could also ask for Jalen and Cason. Youd also expect the Heat to bottom out and have a high pick. Its a viable trade option.

Bam embodies the Heat though. Could NOT imagine them trading him.


Okc owns future picks from Utah and Houston.

If Mia were to rebuild (I don’t see them moving Jimmy or Bam tbc) OKC could indeed put together an attractive offer of picks for Bam.
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Post#1499 » by SoFlaKingReal » Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:53 am

Beal 6/17 14 points tonight.

Salary due next three seasons: $50M, $53M, $57M (player option)

And his no trade clause remains

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