2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

[3ammy3uck3ts]

So looks like with the draft/undrafted market we mainly prioritized playmaking and bigs while in the trade market we’re prioritizing wings.

[oreon]

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Bruh they were selling us dreams of 2026 FO. Now that noone gonna be available they trying to distract with Kuminga

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Lol

Bruh they were selling us dreams of 2026 FO. Now that noone gonna be available they trying to distract with Kuminga

Yep lol and then it’ll be dreams of 2027 free agency. This front office continues to not be able to seal the deal and then just moves the goal post out a year or 2. They were just hyping up having $80M in cap space in 2026 like 3-4 months ago. The longer we keep pretending the more and more Bam and Herros trade values will drop as they get older

[fincane30]

If going after Kuminga is real and if this does indicate a change in philosophy I welcome it. Basing entire offseasons on the chance that stars shake loose is bad process. This is star or nothing stuff is way past the expiration date. We currently sit at 7 guys who are 25 years of age an under. Make Kuminga the 8th. Throw in a in his prime Bam and let the youth and young vets go out there and play. Perhaps going in this direction leads to development of young players that makes them appealing assets for the ever elusive star trade.

[MiamiLoyal926]

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The missing piece to the Miami Jazz transformation!!!

[MiamiLoyal926]

I really want to see both Wade and Dragic back in some way or another with the organization.

[oreon]

If going after Kuminga is real and if this does indicate a change in philosophy I welcome it. Basing entire offseasons on the chance that stars shake loose is bad process. This is star or nothing stuff is way past the expiration date. We currently sit at 7 guys who are 25 years of age an under. Make Kuminga the 8th. Throw in a in his prime Bam and let the youth and young vets go out there and play. Perhaps going in this direction leads to development of young players that makes them appealing assets for the ever elusive star trade.

Young players are only assets when they are not paid or when they overperform their contract.
If you sign Kuminga for 30 mil and he's an okay productive player, Heat will be stuck with that contract

This is just dumb and stupid cuz they too proud to see they need to rebuild.

Why commit more money to the Bam, Herro and a Kuminga core. The ceiling for those 3 is 1st round exits. Why would anyone want to watch for the next couple seasons.

I'd rather be awful and get high draft picks

We did the pay the role players and turn them into assets with Whiteside, JJ, Duncan, TJ, Dion and they were opposite of assets. We had to pay teams to take their contracts. Now Kuminga is younger, but same applies. Too much risk we get stuck with another unwanted contract on a mediocre team

[SoFlaKingReal]

If going after Kuminga is real and if this does indicate a change in philosophy I welcome it. Basing entire offseasons on the chance that stars shake loose is bad process. This is star or nothing stuff is way past the expiration date. We currently sit at 7 guys who are 25 years of age an under. Make Kuminga the 8th. Throw in a in his prime Bam and let the youth and young vets go out there and play. Perhaps going in this direction leads to development of young players that makes them appealing assets for the ever elusive star trade.

Young players are only assets when they are not paid or when they overperform their contract.
If you sign Kuminga for 30 mil and he's an okay productive player, Heat will be stuck with that contract

This is just dumb and stupid cuz they too proud to see they need to rebuild.

Why commit more money to the Bam, Herro and a Kuminga core. The ceiling for those 3 is 1st round exits. Why would anyone want to watch for the next couple seasons.

I'd rather be awful and get high draft picks

We did the pay the role players and turn them into assets with Whiteside, JJ, Duncan, TJ, Dion and they were opposite of assets. We had to pay teams to take their contracts. Now Kuminga is younger, but same applies. Too much risk we get stuck with another unwanted contract on a mediocre team

I disagree that the team would have a first round ceiling. The current team we have now has a first round ceiling. Adding Kuminga and some other competent pieces elevates to a second round ceiling lol

[fincane30]

If going after Kuminga is real and if this does indicate a change in philosophy I welcome it. Basing entire offseasons on the chance that stars shake loose is bad process. This is star or nothing stuff is way past the expiration date. We currently sit at 7 guys who are 25 years of age an under. Make Kuminga the 8th. Throw in a in his prime Bam and let the youth and young vets go out there and play. Perhaps going in this direction leads to development of young players that makes them appealing assets for the ever elusive star trade.

Young players are only assets when they are not paid or when they overperform their contract.
If you sign Kuminga for 30 mil and he's an okay productive player, Heat will be stuck with that contract

This is just dumb and stupid cuz they too proud to see they need to rebuild.

Why commit more money to the Bam, Herro and a Kuminga core. The ceiling for those 3 is 1st round exits. Why would anyone want to watch for the next couple seasons.

I'd rather be awful and get high draft picks

We did the pay the role players and turn them into assets with Whiteside, JJ, Duncan, TJ, Dion and they were opposite of assets. We had to pay teams to take their contracts. Now Kuminga is younger, but same applies. Too much risk we get stuck with another unwanted contract on a mediocre team

We don't know that anyone is offering Kuminga 30 million a year. Only Brooklyn has cap space. Are they giving that to him? Are the Warriors doing that to retain him? The contract certainly will determine my perspective.

[MiamiLoyal926]

Other than Komepinga… is there another young player with suppressed value and all star potential that could be had that could slide into the SF position?

[Shewasfly]

If going after Kuminga is real and if this does indicate a change in philosophy I welcome it. Basing entire offseasons on the chance that stars shake loose is bad process. This is star or nothing stuff is way past the expiration date. We currently sit at 7 guys who are 25 years of age an under. Make Kuminga the 8th. Throw in a in his prime Bam and let the youth and young vets go out there and play. Perhaps going in this direction leads to development of young players that makes them appealing assets for the ever elusive star trade.

Young players are only assets when they are not paid or when they overperform their contract.
If you sign Kuminga for 30 mil and he's an okay productive player, Heat will be stuck with that contract

This is just dumb and stupid cuz they too proud to see they need to rebuild.

Why commit more money to the Bam, Herro and a Kuminga core. The ceiling for those 3 is 1st round exits. Why would anyone want to watch for the next couple seasons.

I'd rather be awful and get high draft picks

We did the pay the role players and turn them into assets with Whiteside, JJ, Duncan, TJ, Dion and they were opposite of assets. We had to pay teams to take their contracts. Now Kuminga is younger, but same applies. Too much risk we get stuck with another unwanted contract on a mediocre team

Do we have to sign him to a new contract if we trade for him? Or does he have 1 more year on his current deal?
Maybe it can be a 1 year, "prove it" type of situation, if he still has another year.

That's kind of the only way I see this making sense. And even then I am not sold on Kuminga's potential at all. I think Spo could unlock him, but I can't see him being anything more than a good #2. And we already have that in Herro.

[dolphinatik]

Summer league team stacked with bigs. I wonder if that's a reaction to teams asking for bigs in trades recently. Rooting for Settle.

[Vertical Limit]

Kuminga at 4 years 80 which is comparable to Malik Monk, that contract is fine.

Once youre talking 100 million youre flirting with danger.. 120-130 million is absolute lunacy.

If it means that we are changing our offense, like i have been begging for us to do, and start attacking the paint more rather than allow roleplayers to shoot a million contested 3s/fadeaway 3s and restrict roleplayers from trying to create their own shot, im okay with it

Kuminga’s game is similar to Josh Smith… dont expect much from his jump shots.. sometimes he catches fire.. but he can attack the paint with the best of them.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Kuminga at 4 years 80 which is comparable to Malik Monk, that contract is fine.

Once youre talking 100 million youre flirting with danger.. 120-130 million is absolute lunacy.

If it means that we are changing our offense, like i have been begging for us to do, and start attacking the paint more rather than allow roleplayers to shoot a million contested 3s/fadeaway 3s and restrict roleplayers from trying to create their own shot, im okay with it

Kuminga’s game is similar to Josh Smith… dont expect much from his jump shots.. sometimes he catches fire.. but he can attack the paint with the best of them.

The problem is that style is a clunky fit with Bam.

[Kobewade11]

Bobby Marks fwiw had Kuminga value at 3 yr/81 mil with the third year being a player option. Obviously it only takes one desperate team to blow that up. I'd like him in the 24-27 range

[CrossOver]

Kuminga on something like 3/81 is great regardless of fit or not. Lets face it, Miami isn't in contention right now for a title so you just got to stack as much talent as you can on the roster and figure it out. Getting Kuminga on that kind of deal also gives you a contract tied to a younger player that can be used to chase a star that might shake loose. It's a lot more appealing to the other team if they can get a young player that matches salaries rather than an old veteran.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Here we go again

[Vertical Limit]

Kuminga at 4 years 80 which is comparable to Malik Monk, that contract is fine.

Once youre talking 100 million youre flirting with danger.. 120-130 million is absolute lunacy.

If it means that we are changing our offense, like i have been begging for us to do, and start attacking the paint more rather than allow roleplayers to shoot a million contested 3s/fadeaway 3s and restrict roleplayers from trying to create their own shot, im okay with it

Kuminga’s game is similar to Josh Smith… dont expect much from his jump shots.. sometimes he catches fire.. but he can attack the paint with the best of them.

The problem is that style is a clunky fit with Bam.

I think it can open things up for bam.. Bam was getting absolutely swarmed by Allen and Mobley.. he needed someone on the team to take the pressure away..

Ty Jerome’s scrub ass had clamps on Herro, Garland kept telling us Herro is not a threat, and he was proven right.

no one else on the team was a threat they just focused on sending multiple bodies sometimes two bodies to Bam. And they knew the rest of the team isnt capable of doing **** on their own.

Kuminga’s rim pressure can only be a benefit.

I kept calling during the game on this board in the around the nba thread for Kuminga to play more minutes in the Rockets series.. i was like Moody has been absolutely useless.. podz isnt doing ****.. warriors up 3-1 and they coasted 2 games and pulled away in game 7.

Once curry got injured, wolves focused on butler, they didnt have a single player that can attack the basket, take the pressure away from butler.. just kept chucking 3s hoping to get lucky to a victory..

These are kumingas splits from game 2 - 5 after kerr came to his senses that Moody is useless and Kuminga needs to play:

Game 2: 18 points 5 rebounds 72% fg
Game 3: 30 points, 6 rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks 61% fg
Game 4: 23 points on 46% shooting
Game 5: 26 points on 48% shooting