Could see that team making another finals push next year.
Put Butler in the Lebron PG role on offense. I think he’s capable of pulling it off (obviously not to the extent of James but still at a star level).
Bam and LMA can co-exist together and we can play them together if we need to go big. LMA can still be THAT guy in spurts, we just need to get him to the postseason rested and healthy. He’s going to age Uber gracefully like Bosh would have.
Worst spacing and shooting starting 5 in the league.
I like Derozen as a buy-low player but he's an awful fit with jimmy and Bam.
LMA is a better fit, but so old and slow now..I'd only do it if we keep our picks.
Giannis would be replacing DRZ in our 'best case scenario'? Spacing can't be that bad
DayofMourning wrote:Trading Bam for Giannis would actually be the most aesthetically pleasing final result for the Heat moving forward. Not saying that's the route I'd go because I'd rather see Bam grow here regardless of his ceiling. However, you've upgraded to a 2 time MVP...
I agree with most of your comments on a daily basis as with this one. I forgot to mention that on the upcoming season (2020-21) we can't go above the luxury tax apron or use our taxpayer mid-level exception.
I always appreciate your work, JLop.
Got to stay rigid on those financials. Who do you think we are pairing with Giannis?
Pat Riley is always looking for the biggest whale and the obvious answer to your question is Anthony Davis. He fits perfectly alongside Giannis. Signing Anthony Davis means we can have our super team a year ahead of schedule. Considering what is available if Gordon Hayward opts out of his contract, he is my second choice. With Hayward we are adding another ball handler and he is an improvement over Jae Crowder. We can sign him along the lines of four-years, $90 million. This will keep Miami flexible to sign Giannis Antetokounmpo in free agency. By taking this path, instead of losing our assets, we can recycle them. We basically trade our young players like Kendrick Nunn, KZ Okpala and this year's pick for future assets. The ideal would be to acquire a future lottery selection in the top 10 (ideal and happening are two very different things). Personally, I would pick a fast, strong power forward who can throw the ball from beyond the arc to be part of the second unit on a rookie salary.
Anthony Davis Giannis Antetokounmpo Gordon Hayward Jimmy Butler Tyler Herro
If Anthony Davis isn't interested in joining the Heat, this is a team we can put together this season without waiting for another year. It will be necessary to trade Bam Adebayo to Milwaukee in exchange for Giannis Antetokounmpo. In order for salaries to meet our cap, it has to be done through trades with the exception of Gordon Hayward if he chooses not to fulfill his contract with Boston and perhaps one more of the free agents I will use on my roster. Miami could even use Derrick Jones Jr. as part of a sign-and-trade deal to acquire one of the players I mention. We also have a Trade Exception in the amount of $7,533,867 that could be used if we wish.
Giannis Antetokounmpo Danilo Gallinari Gordon Hayward Jimmy Butler Jrue Holiday
By the way, I have nothing but love for James Harden. He has been throughout his career and continues to be one of the best players in the NBA. However, we are building a team that will dominate the League for a decade. Houston is selling its players at the right time. Russell Westbrook has a bad contract and James Harden is two years away from becoming a bad contract too.
JLop wrote: I agree with most of your comments on a daily basis as with this one. I forgot to mention that on the upcoming season (2020-21) we can't go above the luxury tax apron or use our taxpayer mid-level exception.
I always appreciate your work, JLop.
Got to stay rigid on those financials. Who do you think we are pairing with Giannis?
Pat Riley is always looking for the biggest whale and the obvious answer to your question is Anthony Davis. He fits perfectly alongside Giannis. Signing Anthony Davis means we can have our super team a year ahead of schedule. Considering what is available if Gordon Hayward opts out of his contract, he is my second choice. With Hayward we are adding another ball handler and he is an improvement over Jae Crowder. We can sign him along the lines of four-years, $90 million. This will keep Miami flexible to sign Giannis Antetokounmpo in free agency. By taking this path, instead of losing our assets, we can recycle them. We basically trade our young players like Kendrick Nunn, KZ Okpala and this year's pick for future assets. The ideal would be to acquire a future lottery selection in the top 10 (ideal and happening are two very different things). Personally, I would pick a fast, strong power forward who can throw the ball from beyond the arc to be part of the second unit on a rookie salary.
Anthony Davis Giannis Antetokounmpo Gordon Hayward Jimmy Butler Tyler Herro
If Anthony Davis isn't interested in joining the Heat, this is a team we can put together this season without waiting for another year. It will be necessary to trade Bam Adebayo to Milwaukee in exchange for Giannis Antetokounmpo. In order for salaries to meet our cap, it has to be done through trades with the exception of Gordon Hayward if he chooses not to fulfill his contract with Boston and perhaps one more of the free agents I will use on my roster. Miami could even use Derrick Jones Jr. as part of a sign-and-trade deal to acquire one of the players I mention. We also have a Trade Exception in the amount of $7,533,867 that could be used if we wish.
Giannis Antetokounmpo Danilo Gallinari Gordon Hayward Jimmy Butler Jrue Holiday
By the way, I have nothing but love for James Harden. He has been throughout his career and continues to be one of the best players in the NBA. However, we are building a team that will dominate the League for a decade. Houston is selling its players at the right time. Russell Westbrook has a bad contract and James Harden is two years away from becoming a bad contract too.
Can definitely respect this. I differ, in that I see a championship in 3-4 years of competing as a success and that's an incredibly rare occurrence. IE: KD Warriors, any team that Bron's won with. 10 years of dominance is a needle out in an Alaskan winter, but noble goal
This guarantees a Giannis move in my opinion. I don't believe they have the pieces to make a big enough splash in the trade market to keep him around long term.
I think his use of "they" infers he's not likely to stay.
Also adding 'NBA is a business' - Like saying 'if i leave it's not personal, so don't hate me'.
If u don't want 2b here, the way things work, u don't like it, then don't b here.U have 2 stand on something. If Miami ain't standing on something, they become alot of these organizations trying 2 find their identity. This is the culture, bro -Wade
DayofMourning wrote: I always appreciate your work, JLop.
Got to stay rigid on those financials. Who do you think we are pairing with Giannis?
Pat Riley is always looking for the biggest whale and the obvious answer to your question is Anthony Davis. He fits perfectly alongside Giannis. Signing Anthony Davis means we can have our super team a year ahead of schedule. Considering what is available if Gordon Hayward opts out of his contract, he is my second choice. With Hayward we are adding another ball handler and he is an improvement over Jae Crowder. We can sign him along the lines of four-years, $90 million. This will keep Miami flexible to sign Giannis Antetokounmpo in free agency. By taking this path, instead of losing our assets, we can recycle them. We basically trade our young players like Kendrick Nunn, KZ Okpala and this year's pick for future assets. The ideal would be to acquire a future lottery selection in the top 10 (ideal and happening are two very different things). Personally, I would pick a fast, strong power forward who can throw the ball from beyond the arc to be part of the second unit on a rookie salary.
Anthony Davis Giannis Antetokounmpo Gordon Hayward Jimmy Butler Tyler Herro
If Anthony Davis isn't interested in joining the Heat, this is a team we can put together this season without waiting for another year. It will be necessary to trade Bam Adebayo to Milwaukee in exchange for Giannis Antetokounmpo. In order for salaries to meet our cap, it has to be done through trades with the exception of Gordon Hayward if he chooses not to fulfill his contract with Boston and perhaps one more of the free agents I will use on my roster. Miami could even use Derrick Jones Jr. as part of a sign-and-trade deal to acquire one of the players I mention. We also have a Trade Exception in the amount of $7,533,867 that could be used if we wish.
Giannis Antetokounmpo Danilo Gallinari Gordon Hayward Jimmy Butler Jrue Holiday
By the way, I have nothing but love for James Harden. He has been throughout his career and continues to be one of the best players in the NBA. However, we are building a team that will dominate the League for a decade. Houston is selling its players at the right time. Russell Westbrook has a bad contract and James Harden is two years away from becoming a bad contract too.
Can definitely respect this. I differ, in that I see a championship in 3-4 years of competing as a success and that's an incredibly rare occurrence. IE: KD Warriors, any team that Bron's won with. 10 years of dominance is a needle out in an Alaskan winter, but noble goal
You could be more right on this than me and I'm definitely being biased, I'm blind when it comes to the Heat, but Giannis Antetokounmpo, Tyler Herro and Duncan Robinson have 10 good years of basketball in their tank. As long as we keep making the right moves, signing and trading for good players, considering we play in the Eastern Conference, Miami can reach the finals for almost a decade. By the way, thanks for being so respectful in showing how you think or differ from my comment.
3ballbomber wrote:It's no coincidence players in Houston have finally had enough & voicing out their frustrations. Houston org plays a part in this but playing beside such a ball dominant player in Harden is absolutely a factor also. Who can coexist w/ a ball hog & not eventually feel agitated w/ their role. It was fun for a while but now realizing it can not yield NBA finals opportunity, let alone titles. Now the ship is sinking, fast. It'll be a vicious cycle of trading & replacing players, perpetual if they don't realise the issue is in Harden himself. I've nvr seen so many players frustratingly unhappy. I've stated previously Harden is the complete antithesis of Heat system & culture. We may perhaps ponder acquiring him but doubt we give any more energy than that if we want to be serious contenders & keep our system & culture just the way it is.
Harden’s ball-dominant style and unwillingness to give others like Paul space to operate have grated on Paul, leading to the nine-time All-Star issuing his trade demand to Rockets general manager Daryl Morey after the season.
Sources said Paul would curse at head coach Mike D’Antoni about the offense bogging down after Harden would ask to come into the game to join the second unit, with Paul heading to the bench.
James "team killer" Harden everyone, that dude can but up 80 points a game for the whole season and playoff and still not win a ship. This is not a Jimmy situation where the guy is misunderstood cause he just wants to win and doesn't feel like the people around him put in the required effort, this is a dude that wants to get a ship by getting his and everyone else is there cause the have to be in order to be able to play. He has never once made other teammates better or elevated their game, if anything he's torpedo'ed his team mates including high profile players like CP, dude is literally the new age Melo, and I didn't want any part of Melo back then and def don't want any part of the second coming of Melo either.
The only way id get em is if it doesn't involve Bam,Jimmy, Robinson or Herro. Just because we can then flip him to a dumb team for something that will actually help us win.
I've compared him previously to Melo. Harden, Westbrook, Melo, Iverson......all the same type players w/ a style that nvr translated into Championships.
If u don't want 2b here, the way things work, u don't like it, then don't b here.U have 2 stand on something. If Miami ain't standing on something, they become alot of these organizations trying 2 find their identity. This is the culture, bro -Wade
RexBoyWonder wrote:I have experience with the resistance movement fam.
Let me remind you I once started the Anti-Kaminsky opposition in the Dark days the board was ruled by the Kaminsky Gang.
It wasn't easy, but We eventually won that battle, after months of mocking and baiting.
Join me now and you have my word - James Edward Harden Jr will NEVER wear a Heat Jersey as long as we believe.
Thank god this'll be squashed most likely by nxt week when FA begins.
BTW I'm actually a big Harden fan. skill-wise i love watching him operate, even if he plays like it's 1 on 5 I take it & enjoy it for what it is. He really has mastered individual offense.
If u don't want 2b here, the way things work, u don't like it, then don't b here.U have 2 stand on something. If Miami ain't standing on something, they become alot of these organizations trying 2 find their identity. This is the culture, bro -Wade
Could see that team making another finals push next year.
Put Butler in the Lebron PG role on offense. I think he’s capable of pulling it off (obviously not to the extent of James but still at a star level).
Bam and LMA can co-exist together and we can play them together if we need to go big. LMA can still be THAT guy in spurts, we just need to get him to the postseason rested and healthy. He’s going to age Uber gracefully like Bosh would have.
Worst spacing and shooting starting 5 in the league.
I like Derozen as a buy-low player but he's an awful fit with jimmy and Bam.
LMA is a better fit, but so old and slow now..I'd only do it if we keep our picks.
I think Demar and Butler can work alongside Bam, as long as we surround them with the right shooters (which we can).
Wouldn’t be my first choice either but it is a move that could make us a better team this coming season.
Could see that team making another finals push next year.
Put Butler in the Lebron PG role on offense. I think he’s capable of pulling it off (obviously not to the extent of James but still at a star level).
Bam and LMA can co-exist together and we can play them together if we need to go big. LMA can still be THAT guy in spurts, we just need to get him to the postseason rested and healthy. He’s going to age Uber gracefully like Bosh would have.
Worst spacing and shooting starting 5 in the league.
I like Derozen as a buy-low player but he's an awful fit with jimmy and Bam.
LMA is a better fit, but so old and slow now..I'd only do it if we keep our picks.
Giannis would be replacing DRZ in our 'best case scenario'? Spacing can't be that bad
Exactly lol.
At least DD has a consistent mid range shot.. Giannis is handicapped outside the paint.
Derozan has been the man on multiple 50 win teams in the past. He couldn’t get over the hump (no one in the East could since the hump was Lebron) but he has been a very effective player. Put him in a place like Miami, next to 2 other all star players in Bam and Butler, and I could see him performing very well.
We’re talking about a perennial 20 points per game scorer on efficient shooting percentages with a ton of playoff experience.
Yes, he’s not a whale, but we’re not getting a whale this season without gutting the roster. DD may come relatively cheap and could allow us to keep our core young players in the process (Herro, Robinson, KZ, etc).
Just ask yourselves, is a team of Bam, Jimmy and Beal + scrubs better than a team of Bam, Jimmy, Derozan, Herro, Robinson, Dragic, etc?
I’d rather keep Herro and add Derozan than lose all of our depth and key pieces for a guy who puts up good stats on bad teams.
BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Was interested in Derozan/LMA last trade deadline and still am as a backup option if other things don't materialize for next season's run. We could sign-and-trade both Nunn and KO and the salaries work according to TradeNBA's trade machine. Specifics of Nunn/KO's deals I used are:
Nunn: 50/4 (12.5 per) scheduled same as the 50/4 Jordan Clarkson got after his 2nd year. I think Clarkson is a pretty objective player comp, probably selling ROY runner-up Nunn a little short if anything
KO: 36/3 (12 per) scheduled to descend annually at 14-12-10. He got 50/4 from us and that turned out to be good value
That's if Derozan picks up his $27.7 next season. If he opts out we could do a sign-and-trade:
Demar: 64/4 frontloaded to be 28-12-12-12 annually. It's 16 per for 4 years which seems like fair market value. Who knows, he might even be willing to take less in order to play for a perennial contender into his mid-30s with a chance to re-sign and retire in Miami
LMA is 24 mil next season then expires. Might be willing to re-sign for cheap to keep ring hunting at age 36
Both Derozan scenarios with LMA work according to TradeNBA, and neither should compromise our 2021 FA plans
SAS might want our 20th pick, if so perhaps we could swap it for their 41st and take my mans Immanuel Quickley. I'll need someone to educate me on whether taking on Derozan/LMA salary for next season allows us to re-sign Gogi/Crowder, but if it does and we do bring Gogi/Crowder back, we could be looking at a rotation of:
Derozan can't really hit 3s but LMA can (39% on 3.0 attempts), so playing them together would offset Derozan's spacing deficit. Derozan has a poor defensive reputation but it seems workable as he played heavy mins for strong Raptors defensive teams. Also playing him in the backcourt with Quickley could be good as they might be able to cover for eachother's weaknesses (3pt and defense for Derozan, on-ball playmaking for Quickley). Haven't seen much of LMA in recent years but this film breakdown suggests he's still a solid rim-protector when motivated:
LMA's 2020 DIFF% was -1.2%, meaning he held his opponents to 1.2% lower than their season FG% (for reference Bam was -4.0%) and he did anchor the #3 ranked Spurs defense without Kawhi in 2018
Not whale additions by any means but these are two proven vets who could address some of our current needs, i.e. a floor spacing and rim-protecting big to pair with Bam, highly efficient (60% TS) professional scorer to get halfcourt buckets and playmake when we're going through one of our patented scoring droughts. I do believe a reasonably healthy Heat team with Derozan and LMA on board would've taken the Lakers in 6 or 7
The only role derozan fits for us is Jimmy backup.... he’s just worth more to other teams both in terms of dollars and trade assets than he is to us.
On the other hand LMA is very interesting to me. He fits well, both playing next to Bam in big lineups and backing up Bam. I said in an earlier post KO, Iggy, and the #20 pick is possibly enough to get him... but even if we need to throw in Nunn it makes sense. The only negative is that his cap number this year is so big that he takes up most of the flexibility we have this year.
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I get that Demar has a bad rap but I think his offensive value is significantly underrated. The Spurs had a pretty terrible roster yet Derozan as the engine somehow drove them to the 9th ranked offense last season. 22/6/6 on 60% TS, elite shot creator and solid playmaking with low turnovers, and excellent at getting to the FT line (I really love this; Yimmy's FT rate was so crucial to our offense as it allowed our defense to get set and mitigated our basura transition D). Let's look at the guards Heat fans have been talking about:
*All 2020 #s except for Dipo (I'm using his 2018 outlier season)
Simply put, DD would arguably be the best pure scorer (at worst 1b to Yimmy's 1a) on a team that was desperate for a pure scorer to take some pressure off Yimmy in the Finals. That's huge to me
About Derozan's 3pt shooting: digging into his #s I was surprised to see he shot .400% on corner 3s. Problem was they only accounted for .286% of his 3pt attempts within that Spurs offense where Derozan had to play a "do it all" onball role. He'd have ample corner 3 spot up opportunity in our offense and here's the corner 3% of the guys he'd be taking those shots from:
Nunn .337% KO .391% Iggy .318% DJJ .225%
Derozan: .400%
So if we can utilize Derozan specifically in that corner 3 spot (think PJ Tucker, Bruce Bowen, etc) -- which is totally feasible -- then we'd actually be more efficient in that aspect of 3pt shooting
BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Was interested in Derozan/LMA last trade deadline and still am as a backup option if other things don't materialize for next season's run. We could sign-and-trade both Nunn and KO and the salaries work according to TradeNBA's trade machine. Specifics of Nunn/KO's deals I used are:
Nunn: 50/4 (12.5 per) scheduled same as the 50/4 Jordan Clarkson got after his 2nd year. I think Clarkson is a pretty objective player comp, probably selling ROY runner-up Nunn a little short if anything
KO: 36/3 (12 per) scheduled to descend annually at 14-12-10. He got 50/4 from us and that turned out to be good value
That's if Derozan picks up his $27.7 next season. If he opts out we could do a sign-and-trade:
Demar: 64/4 frontloaded to be 28-12-12-12 annually. It's 16 per for 4 years which seems like fair market value. Who knows, he might even be willing to take less in order to play for a perennial contender into his mid-30s with a chance to re-sign and retire in Miami
LMA is 24 mil next season then expires. Might be willing to re-sign for cheap to keep ring hunting at age 36
Both Derozan scenarios with LMA work according to TradeNBA, and neither should compromise our 2021 FA plans
SAS might want our 20th pick, if so perhaps we could swap it for their 41st and take my mans Immanuel Quickley. I'll need someone to educate me on whether taking on Derozan/LMA salary for next season allows us to re-sign Gogi/Crowder, but if it does and we do bring Gogi/Crowder back, we could be looking at a rotation of:
Derozan can't really hit 3s but LMA can (39% on 3.0 attempts), so playing them together would offset Derozan's spacing deficit. Derozan has a poor defensive reputation but it seems workable as he played heavy mins for strong Raptors defensive teams. Also playing him in the backcourt with Quickley could be good as they might be able to cover for eachother's weaknesses (3pt and defense for Derozan, on-ball playmaking for Quickley). Haven't seen much of LMA in recent years but this film breakdown suggests he's still a solid rim-protector when motivated:
LMA's 2020 DIFF% was -1.2%, meaning he held his opponents to 1.2% lower than their season FG% (for reference Bam was -4.0%) and he did anchor the #3 ranked Spurs defense without Kawhi in 2018
Not whale additions by any means but these are two proven vets who could address some of our current needs, i.e. a floor spacing and rim-protecting big to pair with Bam, highly efficient (60% TS) professional scorer to get halfcourt buckets and playmake when we're going through one of our patented scoring droughts. I do believe a reasonably healthy Heat team with Derozan and LMA on board would've taken the Lakers in 6 or 7
The only role derozan fits for us is Jimmy backup.... he’s just worth more to other teams both in terms of dollars and trade assets than he is to us.
On the other hand LMA is very interesting to me. He fits well, both playing next to Bam in big lineups and backing up Bam. I said in an earlier post KO, Iggy, and the #20 pick is possibly enough to get him... but even if we need to throw in Nunn it makes sense. The only negative is that his cap number this year is so big that he takes up most of the flexibility we have this year.
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I get that Demar has a bad rap but I think his offensive value is significantly underrated. The Spurs had a pretty terrible roster yet Derozan as the engine somehow drove them to the 9th ranked offense last season. 22/6/6 on 60% TS, elite shot creator and solid playmaking with low turnovers, and excellent at getting to the FT line (I really love this; Yimmy's FT rate was so crucial to our offense as it allowed our defense to get set and mitigated our basura transition D). Let's look at the guards Heat fans have been talking about:
*All 2020 #s except for Dipo (I'm using his 2018 outlier season)
Simply put, DD would arguably be the best pure scorer (at worst 1b to Yimmy's 1a) on a team that was desperate for a pure scorer to take some pressure off Yimmy in the Finals. That's huge to me
About Derozan's 3pt shooting: digging into his #s I was surprised to see he shot .400% on corner 3s. Problem was they only accounted for .286% of his 3pt attempts within that Spurs offense where Derozan had to play a "do it all" onball role. He'd have ample corner 3 spot up opportunity in our offense and here's the corner 3% of the guys he'd be taking those shots from:
Nunn .337% KO .391% Iggy .318% DJJ .225%
Derozan: .400%
So if we can utilize Derozan specifically in that corner 3 spot (think PJ Tucker, Bruce Bowen, etc) -- which is totally feasible -- then we'd actually be more efficient in that aspect of 3pt shooting
Good points. Just because you can shoot the three better doesn’t mean you’re the better offensive talent. Like you said, DD literally does everything else better offensively than VO, Holiday and Beal.
And like you said, to maximize his 3pt percentages we can have him in the corner during his off-ball sets, when guys like Dragic and Butler iso.
Not saying he’ll ever be a dead eye shooter from deep. But put him in a situation where he doesn’t have to be the do it all guy and I could see him shooting close to league average from deep.
twix2500 wrote:No purpose of even talk about Derozan as a three point shooter. That will not be his role. His role will be to draw double teams so shooters get open.
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It's not about making him a 3pt specialist or something. It's about knowing there's a spot on the floor he can occupy where he won't be an offball spacing liability. The same spot where we tried to hide Iggy and DJJ (with miserable results)
twix2500 wrote:No purpose of even talk about Derozan as a three point shooter. That will not be his role. His role will be to draw double teams so shooters get open.
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It's not about making him a 3pt specialist or something. It's about knowing there's a spot on the floor he can occupy where he won't be an offball spacing liability. The same spot where we tried to hide Iggy and DJJ (with miserable results)
That will not be his role, its a waste of time analyzing him as a spacer for the paint. He will be a primary ball handler and cutter to create space for three point shooters. He will draw double teams. Off the ball he is a excellent cutter and finishing off of fast breaks. Iggy and DJJ are solely off the ball players. He will have Winslow role that everyone wanted offensively
I get shooting is his weakness just as it is for Butler and Bam. If he is added to the Heat he will not be used to run to a corner and stand there. He will likely stagger with Bam and Butler and being a primary ball handler. And even thou he is not a shooter teams do not ignore him, because he will score regardless. Again he will create spacing because teams will double him.
There will be some changes to the role players. May add more high volume 3 point shooter like Gallinari, Quickley and Wesley Matthews types.
I don't mind taking the gamble on Derozen as long as it doesn't cost us future assets. He not a defender or shooter, and those are the most needed skills we really need to add to the guard rotation.
Willing to give up Kelly or Iggy + Nunn, not giving up draft picks/KZ/Duncan or anything else.
RexBoyWonder wrote:I don't mind taking the gamble on Derozen as long as it doesn't cost us future assets. He not a defender or shooter, and those are the most needed skills we really need to add to the guard rotation.
Willing to give up Kelly or Iggy + Nunn, not giving up draft picks/KZ/Duncan or anything else.
Don't see why Spurs should accept this.
If the Heat trade for Derozan, I think it will likely involve the 20th pick, which may end up the spurs giving the Heat their 2nd. I am thinking Iggy, KO (possibly Nunn) and the 20th pick for DeRozan and their 2nd. That is what I am thinking.
I have a feeling the Heat will try and get a 2nd some how to draft Quickley
RexBoyWonder wrote:I don't mind taking the gamble on Derozen as long as it doesn't cost us future assets. He not a defender or shooter, and those are the most needed skills we really need to add to the guard rotation.
Willing to give up Kelly or Iggy + Nunn, not giving up draft picks/KZ/Duncan or anything else.
Don't see why Spurs should accept this.
If the Heat trade for Derozan, I think it will likely involve the 20th pick, which may end up the spurs giving the Heat their 2nd. I am thinking Iggy, KO (possibly Nunn) and the 20th pick for DeRozan and their 2nd. That is what I am thinking.
I have a feeling the Heat will try and get a 2nd some how to draft Quickley
Bad move to send out a rookie player in a deep draft for a 1 year rental of Derozen, He won't be here more then a year unless something went horribly wrong with all our plans.
We need good players on rookie deals if we plan to add a third star to Max Jimmy and Max Bam.
I take it & enjoy it for what it is. He really has mastered individual offense.
