MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[Wiltside]

I'm coming around MWP. I'd be coo with Portis. He's a good fit for our offense, and we need that spacing/rebounding.

Hell, imagine the craziness if we signed Bobby and traded for Sexton

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Herro, Iggy, Goran for Wall and #2 pick. That's the good chit.

This is the thing, they seem to want Herro. But they have no assets we want that are worth Herro straight-up. #2 is too valuable, Woods is comparable but still off (& apparently not desirable to us), while Wall is interesting to Riley but less valuable (& hard to match $).

The proposed deal is the least dumb thing that can come out of the mutual interest. But it’s still pretty unfathomable.

[puppa bear]

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Barry spitting truth!

[Kobewade11]

I made that post just for you since you are their resident mole

Mole? I'm from Australia.

You put the cape on

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Herro, Iggy, Goran for Wall and #2 pick. That's the good chit.

Wonder if there's any way we try to do this and free up our picks to flip all of it to Portland for Dame without having to include Bam?

Have Wall replace Dame in the short term, they also get #2 pick plus all our futures to start their rebuild. Then they can also try to flip Wall and CJ McCollum for more assets?

We don’t really have many picks to trade - but draft Mobley would kick start their rebuild.

[Wiltside]

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Herro, Iggy, Goran for Wall and #2 pick. That's the good chit.

This is the thing, they seem to want Herro. But they have no assets we want that are worth Herro straight-up. #2 is too valuable, Woods is comparable but still off (& apparently not desirable to us), while Wall is interesting to Riley but less valuable (& hard to match $).

The proposed deal is the least dumb thing that can come out of the mutual interest. But it’s still pretty unfathomable.

If the Rockets are hot for Herro, then they know the price. It's #2. Yeah, it's overs, but if he's their guy and who they've targeted - they have to make a deal that's appealing to US to part with our asset.

It ain't gonna happen, but that's what it would take IMO.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Herro, Iggy, Goran for Wall and #2 pick. That's the good chit.

This is the thing, they seem to want Herro. But they have no assets we want that are worth Herro straight-up. #2 is too valuable, Woods is comparable but still off (& apparently not desirable to us), while Wall is interesting to Riley but less valuable (& hard to match $).

The proposed deal is the least dumb thing that can come out of the mutual interest. But it’s still pretty unfathomable.

If the Rockets are hot for Herro, then they know the price. It's #2. Yeah, it's overs, but if he's their guy and who they've targeted - they have to make a deal that's appealing to US to part with our asset.

It ain't gonna happen, but that's what it would take IMO.

No way ever will they trade the #2 pick for Herro. They maybe give us the #18 and the #24 with Gordon or Wall. Herro and Iguodala for Eric Gordon #18,#24 and 2023 protected 1st. That deal opens up all our draft picks and gives us a chance to pick up two young players in this draft who also become assets.

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Dame's PR team is something else. For years they have cultivated the image of Dame being and having been "so loyal" to the Blazers, when in reality all he's ever done is grab the biggest bag available to him. And now that he wants out, they are latching on to some lame ass excuse.

He wanted a new coach ... they gave him one.

He wanted Billups ... they hired Billups.

"Some randos on the internet are upset with me. My loyalty isn't appreciated! I want out!"

For the record, Dame has been "so loyal" to Portland for exactly 1 season longer than Dwight Howard was "so loyal" to Orlando.

Don't get me wrong, 100% go get Dame if we can ... just spare everyone the loyalty crap.

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[El Alonzo scowl]

John Wall is trash and makes a zillion a year, I'd renounce my fandom if we trade for him.

Pat Riley's University of Kentucky nepotism is too much. Won't trade Tyler Herro for prime Jordan just cause he's a University of Kentucky boy.

[El Alonzo scowl]

Porzingis is f'ing trash too holy crap

If Wall and/or Porzingis are the guys we end up with from our sacred 2021 plans, I'm taking a 5 year hiatus from the NBA

[eddieheatfan]

Porzingis is f'ing trash too holy crap

If Wall and/or Porzingis are the guys we end up with from our sacred 2021 plans, I'm taking a 5 year hiatus from the NBA

you guys want too much for too little

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[El Alonzo scowl]

Porzingis is f'ing trash too holy crap

If Wall and/or Porzingis are the guys we end up with from our sacred 2021 plans, I'm taking a 5 year hiatus from the NBA

you guys want too much for too little

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I don't want to destroy our cap space for the next 5 years with those cancer scrubs, I'd rather sign no one than those pieces of ****

[Wiltside]

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It's the most logical landing place tbh. There's a clear fit for Lillard as a partner with Embiid and Tobi.

And there's a clear large piece of the puzzle in Simmons that you would imagine would interest Portland, along with Maxey, Thybulle, picks etc etc.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I think Wall is probably out of the question. Just too big a salary to match. If anything goes down with Houston the player most likely involved is Eric Gordon with a good amount of 1st round picks attached. Houston can afford to give two this year and a future pick we need in 2023. I’m actually possibly ok with that deal. I like Herro but don’t think he’ll turn into some mega star. I see him more in the JJ Reddick mold. His defense will never be anything special with his low level wingspan. His athletic ability for a two guard is ok. I think Victor Oladipo healthy is a better player. Might not be a better shooter then Herro but unquestionably a better defender with more explosion to the basket.

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It's the most logical landing place tbh. There's a clear fit for Lillard as a partner with Embiid and Tobi.

And there's a clear large piece of the puzzle in Simmons that you would imagine would interest Portland, along with Maxey, Thybulle, picks etc etc.

They have to be the clear cut favorite. Add in the Pels,Knicks,Boston and you have a clear cut bidding war against teams with young talent and picks galore to throw around. Heat twitter needs to get there minds right.

[Wiltside]

I think Wall is probably out of the question. Just too big a salary to match. If anything goes down with Houston the player most likely involved is Eric Gordon with a good amount of 1st round picks attached. Houston can afford to give two this year and a future pick we need in 2023. I’m actually possibly ok with that deal. I like Herro but don’t think he’ll turn into some mega star. I see him more in the JJ Reddick mold. His defense will never be anything special with his low level wingspan. His athletic ability for a two guard is ok. I think Victor Oladipo healthy is a better player.

Gordon is in theory a solid shooter, but man, his %'s have fallen off a cliff the last couple years.

31.7% 3FG on 8.4 3PA in 19/20
32.9% 3FG on 7.8 3PA in 20/21

I guess at worst he's a serviceable enough stop gap to provide either bench sparkplug scoring or 15 a game as a starter, but mans needs to get that back up near 40%.

Oladipo healthy is for sure a better player than Herro, but when is Oladipo ever healthy? Been a long time now. Herro still got a few years of team friendly salary too where he will strongly outperform salary v production.

If trading Herro unlocks a deal where we have enough ammo to land a true needle mover and form a legit Big 3 that can realistically contend, then you do it. If it's just deck chair shuffling for more picks, I'll keep our known big balls quantity and back him in to develop and improve on his weaknesses.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I think Wall is probably out of the question. Just too big a salary to match. If anything goes down with Houston the player most likely involved is Eric Gordon with a good amount of 1st round picks attached. Houston can afford to give two this year and a future pick we need in 2023. I’m actually possibly ok with that deal. I like Herro but don’t think he’ll turn into some mega star. I see him more in the JJ Reddick mold. His defense will never be anything special with his low level wingspan. His athletic ability for a two guard is ok. I think Victor Oladipo healthy is a better player.

Gordon is in theory a solid shooter, but man, his %'s have fallen off a cliff the last couple years.

31.7% 3FG on 8.4 3PA in 19/20
32.9% 3FG on 7.8 3PA in 20/21

I guess at worst he's a serviceable enough stop gap to provide either bench sparkplug scoring or 15 a game as a starter, but mans needs to get that back up near 40%.

Oladipo healthy is for sure a better player than Herro, but when is Oladipo ever healthy? Been a long time now. Herro still got a few years of team friendly salary too where he will strongly outperform salary v production.

If trading Herro unlocks a deal where we have enough ammo to land a true needle mover and form a legit Big 3 that can realistically contend, then you do it. If it's just deck chair shuffling for more picks, I'll keep our known big balls quantity and back him in to develop and improve on his weaknesses.

Put Eric Gordon with Bam and Butler and all his percentages go up. Getting the picks allows us to put Dragic, Achuiwa or Okpala with picks to trade in play. I would be calling the Cavs right away to swing Dragic,Achuiwa or Okpala and two 1st for Sexton and Prince.

[Wiltside]

Under that scenario MWP:

Sexton / OIadipo?
Robinson / Gordon
Butler / Strus?
Prince? / Ariza?
Adebayo / Dedmon?

Still think we need more size than that.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Under that scenario MWP:

Sexton / OIadipo?
Robinson / Gordon
Butler / Strus?
Prince? / Ariza?
Adebayo / Dedmon?

Still think we need more size than that.

Need to sign a big with the Mid level.