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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1 

Post#1521 » by AirP. » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:46 pm

Wiltside wrote:Honestly, I’d probably rather we try get a PF like Jerami Grant over a big like Wood or Turner.

I think we have enough at the 5 between Bam/Yurt/Dedmon. It’s the 4 spot that concerns me. Grant is a solid defender with decent size that can shoot the 3. He’s the guy.

What are you giving up for him? Detroit isn't going to want a 3pt shooter on a sizable long term contract.

Zach Lowe thinks it's going to take something like Pat Williams to get J.Grant to Chicago, that's a pretty high price.

Me, I'd probably be trying to get info on J.Isaac's rehab and seeing what their price may be with Orlando already paying Carter and needing to pay Mo Bamba this summer, not sure if there's room for 3 sizable contracts for PF/C positions.
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Post#1522 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:59 pm

I personally prefer Grant but don’t think that happens for the package of Duncan Robinson and fillers. As someone mentioned they will be looking for a young piece like a Williams from Chicago. Wood would seem to make the most sense as he fills a need and also comes with a friendly contract that allows us to get out of early if things don’t work out while getting out of Duncan’s long term deal. We gotta start thinking about Wood being a worthy gamble or having Duncan as the 7th swing man off the bench on a healthy contract.
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Post#1523 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 6, 2022 10:59 pm

Yea grant to CHicago seems inevitable.
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Post#1524 » by IggieCC » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:04 pm

yo Chicago is getting stacked
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Post#1525 » by IggieCC » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:14 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I personally prefer Grant but don’t think that happens for the package of Duncan Robinson and fillers. As someone mentioned they will be looking for a young piece like a Williams from Chicago. Wood would seem to make the most sense as he fills a need and also comes with a friendly contract that allows us to get out of early if things don’t work out while getting out of Duncan’s long term deal. We gotta start thinking about Wood being a worthy gamble or having Duncan as the 7th swing man off the bench on a healthy contract.

I have my doubts about Wood but it's a no brainer for the package you suggested.

Yurts is nice, but let's be real here he's born in the wrong era. Guys like that are easily replaceable at lower cost and most teams run them off the court in the playoffs anyways. blame Steph, Harden, Dame, Morey, Nash, Don Nelson, Run TMC Panda :x
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Post#1526 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:45 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Hypothetical. Considering we have a healthy Bam and Dedmon back in the next few weeks. We engage the Rockets in talks for Christian Wood and they ask for Omer Yurtseven to be included in a deal with Duncan Robinson. Is everyone ok with selling high on Yurtseven at this point in order to get Christian Wood who's probably the best fit long term next to Bam? Looking over rosters and seeing how the money works and trying to stay under the cap and free open roster spots. A deal could look like this

C Omer Yurtseven
SF Duncan Robinson
SF/PF KZ Okpala
PF Markieff Morris (released after trade)

to the Rockets for

PF/C Christian Wood
PG DJ Augustin

C Bam Adebayo C Dewayne Dedmon C Udonis Haslem
PF PJ Tucker PF/C Christian Wood
SF Jimmy Butler SF/PF Caleb Martin
SG Max Strus SG Tyler Herro SG/SF Victor Oladipo
PG Kyle Lowry PG Gabe Vincent PG DJ Augustin

Two way players

PG/SG Kyle Guy
SG/SF Marcus Garrett

After trade work the buyout market for some veterans to add some depth.


This trade makes no sense for the Rockets. Robinson has no value to them and is a negative long term contract thus far, they are in the rebuilding mode. They can also get more value for Wood. For us its a no brainer but again this makes no sense at all on so many levels.
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Post#1527 » by 3ballbomber » Thu Jan 6, 2022 11:50 pm

IggieCC wrote:yo Chicago is getting stacked

& I'm still not concerned w/ them :lol:
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Post#1528 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Jan 7, 2022 12:08 am

3ballbomber wrote:
IggieCC wrote:yo Chicago is getting stacked

& I'm still not concerned w/ them :lol:


I still dont know what to think about the Bulls but I admire how there front office is making real moves. Ball has been great on defense and is getting better on the 3ball not to mention he is I think 10 mil cheaper than Lowry. Lowry true value should in theory show up in the playoffs which is what we are banking on. Derozan is having an mvp impact on that team for sure and is also getting paid less than Lowry.
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Post#1529 » by IggieCC » Fri Jan 7, 2022 12:24 am

Nets, Bucks are probably more of a threat than Bulls in the playoffs because of the experiences (their best players being FMVPs) but the fact that they are No1 seed is a pain in the butt. just one more team to fight HCA for.

I don't dislike our current position though. Being 4th seed to play the 6ers with HCA, then Bulls 2nd round to face either Bucks or Nets.. might be the best path to go far in the playoffs.
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Post#1530 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Jan 7, 2022 12:37 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:
IggieCC wrote:yo Chicago is getting stacked

& I'm still not concerned w/ them :lol:


I still dont know what to think about the Bulls but I admire how there front office is making real moves. Ball has been great on defense and is getting better on the 3ball not to mention he is I think 10 mil cheaper than Lowry. Lowry true value should in theory show up in the playoffs which is what we are banking on. Derozan is having an mvp impact on that team for sure and is also getting paid less than Lowry.

IggieCC wrote:Nets, Bucks are probably more of a threat than Bulls in the playoffs because of the experiences (their best players being FMVPs) but the fact that they are No1 seed is a pain in the butt. just one more team to fight HCA for.

I don't dislike our current position though. Being 4th seed to play the 6ers with HCA, then Bulls 2nd round to face either Bucks or Nets.. might be the best path to go far in the playoffs.


Come PO's people will be hopping off their nuts quick. They won't mirror their reg season success.

We have PO experience, battle tested players on our squad. 9 of 10 times we beat Bulls in PO series.
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Post#1531 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Jan 7, 2022 12:44 am

marson wrote:Anyone else feels bad for Rio? Will he make it at least to our next home game.

Nope. I still remember he was gifted the starting spot because for yrs we couldn't afford to land a high caliber point. Chalmers was the best we had for a long time. He's had his shot more than others at his level...w/ a ring to boot. He was lucky to have the career he had here in Miami. Not sure why he looking all sad on the bench :lol:
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Post#1532 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 7, 2022 1:33 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Hypothetical. Considering we have a healthy Bam and Dedmon back in the next few weeks. We engage the Rockets in talks for Christian Wood and they ask for Omer Yurtseven to be included in a deal with Duncan Robinson. Is everyone ok with selling high on Yurtseven at this point in order to get Christian Wood who's probably the best fit long term next to Bam? Looking over rosters and seeing how the money works and trying to stay under the cap and free open roster spots. A deal could look like this

C Omer Yurtseven
SF Duncan Robinson
SF/PF KZ Okpala
PF Markieff Morris (released after trade)

to the Rockets for

PF/C Christian Wood
PG DJ Augustin

C Bam Adebayo C Dewayne Dedmon C Udonis Haslem
PF PJ Tucker PF/C Christian Wood
SF Jimmy Butler SF/PF Caleb Martin
SG Max Strus SG Tyler Herro SG/SF Victor Oladipo
PG Kyle Lowry PG Gabe Vincent PG DJ Augustin

Two way players

PG/SG Kyle Guy
SG/SF Marcus Garrett

After trade work the buyout market for some veterans to add some depth.


This trade makes no sense for the Rockets. Robinson has no value to them and is a negative long term contract thus far, they are in the rebuilding mode. They can also get more value for Wood. For us its a no brainer but again this makes no sense at all on so many levels.

It could end up making sense for the Rockets if draft picks are involved. Very polarizing trying to find Duncan’s value in trade. In some comments it was Wood not enough and in this one it’s Rockets could get way more.
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Post#1533 » by oreon » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:19 am

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Keef putting an end to all the conspiracy talk regarding his injury. Sounds like Jokic hurt his spine. I hope there's isn't long term damage.
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Post#1534 » by Kobewade11 » Fri Jan 7, 2022 3:29 am

Wiltside wrote:Wood can ball, but it’s not like he’s ever produced and impacted winning. He’s put up numbers on chitty Pistons and Rockets teams. His attitude is a red flag for me - there’s a Whiteside stench to him that I can shake. The contract is cheap and the commitment in years small, but I don’t think he has a Heat mentality.

The Whiteside comp is probably accurate
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Post#1535 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 7, 2022 5:58 am

Save Jimmys mentee Jaylen Brown from the Celtics!!
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Post#1536 » by harlem_ball » Fri Jan 7, 2022 7:14 am

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Post#1537 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jan 7, 2022 9:06 am

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Man I love Jimmy man
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Post#1538 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jan 7, 2022 9:08 am

Wiltside wrote:Honestly, I’d probably rather we try get a PF like Jerami Grant over a big like Wood or Turner.

I think we have enough at the 5 between Bam/Yurt/Dedmon. It’s the 4 spot that concerns me. Grant is a solid defender with decent size that can shoot the 3. He’s the guy.


It's him or Harrison Barnes.

A big wing that take some pressure of Jimmy/Tucker. Create some, defend some, shot the open 3's. bring some athleticism.
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Post#1539 » by puppa bear » Fri Jan 7, 2022 9:37 am

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Wiltside wrote:Honestly, I’d probably rather we try get a PF like Jerami Grant over a big like Wood or Turner.

I think we have enough at the 5 between Bam/Yurt/Dedmon. It’s the 4 spot that concerns me. Grant is a solid defender with decent size that can shoot the 3. He’s the guy.


It's him or Harrison Barnes.

A big wing that take some pressure of Jimmy/Tucker. Create some, defend some, shot the open 3's. bring some athleticism.

Barnes is the more realistic target, Grant will be listed after. If Bulls are willing to give up Pat then we’re priced out of the running.

Can’t see why Kings would want Duncan though
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Post#1540 » by dshearn » Fri Jan 7, 2022 10:17 am

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marson wrote:Anyone else feels bad for Rio? Will he make it at least to our next home game.

Nope. I still remember he was gifted the starting spot because for yrs we couldn't afford to land a high caliber point. Chalmers was the best we had for a long time. He's had his shot more than others at his level...w/ a ring to boot. He was lucky to have the career he had here in Miami. Not sure why he looking all sad on the bench :lol:



I'll never forget Mario trying to play above his pay grade against Dallas. Team was waiting for someone to step up and as I remember it Lebron was not the guy to do it yet.....

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