2025-26 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 3.0

[lastb1ckman]

Personally, I'd do Bam + Herro for Giannis straight up. But Bam is almost untouchable, so highly unlikely.

Giannis, Ware, Powell, Wiggins, Pelle, Jaquez, Kas.. can compete w anyone in the East

Ehhhh, is a Giannis/Powell duo better than Giannis/Lillard? Especially without a Brook Lopez to man the center? And no, I dont think Ware is even close to Mke Brook Lopez yet. And then you'd probably need either a leap from Kas, Mitchell, or Dru at PG, or get an upgrade there.

I'm thinking next 5 years, not just right now.
Yes, I think Ware can be like Lopez. He's already a good 3pt shooting big. Lilliard was a failure there.
I think the supporting crew is better here for next 5 years than what he ever had in Milwaukee.

If Ware doesn't work out, we can certainly upgrade. Getting the whale is the hardest part. The Heat front office has proven they can find/develop a good supporting cast.

Eh, I am still not sold on Ware. On paper he works, but he still needs a lot of work on positioning and timing. This is why Whiteside didn't work out, and why he is constantly on Spo's **** list. He does the splashy box score stuff, but actual impact is very mixed. Think Rudy Gobert vs Hassan Whiteside. And without Bam on the team, you'd be relying on Giannis and Ware to hold down the team's defense. Giannis at this point in his career is more of an elite help defender, so it would really be on Ware. And when you're trying to win a title, a shaky young center is a BIG weakness.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I will assume the Heat have multiple trades in their cards to give Bucks assets they want

Remember, they also need to have enough for giannis to think he can win a ring. Can't sell everything.

I know you have an ulterior motive but this is where our motives align because I actually agree, Wiggins is a guy who fits perfectly into a Giannis squad and without him, you throw away a lot of what makes it work. And making the trade for the future is a possibility but doesn't feel great with an older Giannis who may have health questions moving forward.

[greg4012]

Knicks have the best team for giannis.
Heat have the best prospects.
Gsw have the best picks.

Each have something.

Why do the Knicks have the best team for Giannis?

Brunson is a pure onball player. Giannis is a pure onball player.

Compared to the rosters the heat and gsw could put around him immediately.

Assume its kat for giannis.

Brunson, bridges, og, giannis and Mitchell Robinson would be easy favorites.

Ehh idk about that. Seems like a recipe for Giannis to become almost full-time center. Mitchell Robinson is more of a player in theory than in reality and has shot zero 3PA in his career (along with 51% FT shooting). As I mentioned, Brunson and Giannis are not really complementary imo and will actually marginalize each other--like the Giannis-Dame dynamic but worse.

[DayofMourning]

Giannis to LAL for Austin Reeves and some picks in the 2030s.

And then Reaves becomes a free agent this offseason.

How much the Bux gon pay him?

[batterybro42]

WHERE IS THE SARDINE INSIDER??????

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Why do the Knicks have the best team for Giannis?

Brunson is a pure onball player. Giannis is a pure onball player.

Compared to the rosters the heat and gsw could put around him immediately.

Assume its kat for giannis.

Brunson, bridges, og, giannis and Mitchell Robinson would be easy favorites.

Ehh idk about that. Seems like a recipe for Giannis to become almost full-time center. Mitchell Robinson is more of a player in theory than in reality and has shot zero 3PA in his career (along with 51% FT shooting). As I mentioned, Brunson and Giannis are not really complementary imo and will actually marginalize each other--like the Giannis-Dame dynamic but worse.

The Dame experiment, even though it ended prematurely due to injury, still wasn't going great before that, and was kind of damning to Giannis' portability. The fact he looks better on a team with no other on ball talent than even one other good on ball player, says something about how you have to approach team building with him.

[greg4012]

Giannis to LAL for Austin Reeves and some picks in the 2030s.

And then Reaves becomes a free agent this offseason.

How much the Bux gon pay him?

He'll get big offers on the market, I'd imagine.

[Vertical Limit]

The Bucks are not just looking at first round picks, theyre looking at the quality of the picks. They know if they trade Giannis to play with Brunson, or play with Steph, or play with Luka, those team picks are likely not lottery picks.

Now if those teams have other team unprotected picks to offer and swaps, thats a different ball game. And theyre going to get multiple unprotected picks for him that is guaranteed, minimum 3 of them and theyre going to come from different teams.

The bucks cap situation is bad, and they may see financial relief as an asset too, but just one asset, they likely want a haul of assets for Giannis.

With Dame accounting for 23 million for the next 4 years, kuzma and portis accounting for 35 million combined next season, myles turner is likely on the block, his contract is not bad but he is out of place and without identity on the bucks. He accounts for 27 million per till 28/29 season.

Dont be shocked if this turns into a multi team trade where they move Giannis and 1-2 additional players on their roster and grab a haul of picks from various teams.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Thanasis
Giannis
Bobby P
Kuzma

92.2 mil

for

Wiggins(facilitate to acquire player and 1st rd pick)
Rozier
Herro
Ware
Keshad Johnson

92.2 mil

Here goes what would could be the basis of a deal with picks included.

[batterybro42]

You go all in on Giannis hold nothing back besides Bam

Firmly believe that if they can acquire Giannis then there will be a move that is doable for Ja as well. If you can hold onto Powell and Pele that is a nightmarish starting 5 when healthy.

Ja
Powell
Larson
Giannis
Bam

This is where I begin to entertain acquisitions like Hassan Whiteside or whatever vets we can get for a chase run probably coming out of the play in with Ja and Giannis missing time. That team legitimately could piece it together and come out of the East this year. Giannis is the most Spo player of all time

That team can't shoot.

They can all hit 3s maybe not at blistering clip but all are capable 3PT shooters. They can hit wide open shots that’s all you need

[MettaWorldPanda]

The Bucks are not just looking at first round picks, theyre looking at the quality of the picks. They know if they trade Giannis to play with Brunson, or play with Steph, or play with Luka, those team picks are likely not lottery picks.

Now if those teams have other team unprotected picks to offer and swaps, thats a different ball game. And theyre going to get multiple unprotected picks for him that is guaranteed, minimum 3 of them and theyre going to come from different teams.

The bucks cap situation is bad, and they may see financial relief as an asset too, but just one asset, they likely want a haul of assets for Giannis.

With Dame accounting for 23 million for the next 4 years, kuzma and portis accounting for 35 million combined next season, myles turner is likely on the block, his contract is not bad but he is out of place and without identity on the bucks. He accounts for 27 million per till 28/29 season.

Dont be shocked if this turns into a multi team trade where they move Giannis and 1-2 additional players on their roster and grab a haul of picks from various teams.

Our 2030 and 2032 picks are valuable because Giannis and Bam will be in the twilight of there careers.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Why do the Knicks have the best team for Giannis?

Brunson is a pure onball player. Giannis is a pure onball player.

Compared to the rosters the heat and gsw could put around him immediately.

Assume its kat for giannis.

Brunson, bridges, og, giannis and Mitchell Robinson would be easy favorites.

Ehh idk about that. Seems like a recipe for Giannis to become almost full-time center. Mitchell Robinson is more of a player in theory than in reality and has shot zero 3PA in his career (along with 51% FT shooting). As I mentioned, Brunson and Giannis are not really complementary imo and will actually marginalize each other--like the Giannis-Dame dynamic but worse.

Davion, powell, pelle, and bam

Steph, melton, moody, and dray.

Yeah, i think the Knicks clear in talent.

If you were giannis, which of those 3 would be the most appealing? Whi gives you the best chance at a ring? He'dprobably extend with all 3.

[batterybro42]

You go all in on Giannis hold nothing back besides Bam

Firmly believe that if they can acquire Giannis then there will be a move that is doable for Ja as well. If you can hold onto Powell and Pele that is a nightmarish starting 5 when healthy.

Ja
Powell
Larson
Giannis
Bam

This is where I begin to entertain acquisitions like Hassan Whiteside or whatever vets we can get for a chase run probably coming out of the play in with Ja and Giannis missing time. That team legitimately could piece it together and come out of the East this year. Giannis is the most Spo player of all time

That team can't shoot.

It can get into the paint/break down the D at will though. Right now, this team can't do any one thing great. That team would be GREAT at getting into the teeth of the defense and paint points.

You can find shooting as well you can go out and get an Alec Burks etc or somebody who can hit 3s at volume to space. Not really a huge concern for me. Taking contested or moving 3s is way worse than wide open shooters with average shooting metrics

[Vertical Limit]

If we are not able to land Giannis, i am hoping the front office is able to get in the conversations where we can offer an expiring and get a pick or swap in return

[Flash4thewin]

The Bucks are not just looking at first round picks, theyre looking at the quality of the picks. They know if they trade Giannis to play with Brunson, or play with Steph, or play with Luka, those team picks are likely not lottery picks.

Now if those teams have other team unprotected picks to offer and swaps, thats a different ball game. And theyre going to get multiple unprotected picks for him that is guaranteed, minimum 3 of them and theyre going to come from different teams.

The bucks cap situation is bad, and they may see financial relief as an asset too, but just one asset, they likely want a haul of assets for Giannis.

With Dame accounting for 23 million for the next 4 years, kuzma and portis accounting for 35 million combined next season, myles turner is likely on the block, his contract is not bad but he is out of place and without identity on the bucks. He accounts for 27 million per till 28/29 season.

Dont be shocked if this turns into a multi team trade where they move Giannis and 1-2 additional players on their roster and grab a haul of picks from various teams.

Our 2030 and 2032 picks are valuable because Giannis and Bam will be in the twilight of there careers.

lol no they are not. Even when we should tank, we because of ego are incapable of it, now factor in another team keeping the pick we wont tank. Our picks will be in the late 20s if we are being honest here and thats not motivating anyone

[Crazy-Canuck]

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[greg4012]

Compared to the rosters the heat and gsw could put around him immediately.

Assume its kat for giannis.

Brunson, bridges, og, giannis and Mitchell Robinson would be easy favorites.

Ehh idk about that. Seems like a recipe for Giannis to become almost full-time center. Mitchell Robinson is more of a player in theory than in reality and has shot zero 3PA in his career (along with 51% FT shooting). As I mentioned, Brunson and Giannis are not really complementary imo and will actually marginalize each other--like the Giannis-Dame dynamic but worse.

Davion, powell, pelle, and bam

Steph, melton, moody, and dray.

Yeah, i think the Knicks clear in talent.

If you were giannis, which of those 3 would be the most appealing? Whi gives you the best chance at a ring? He'dprobably extend with all 3.

If the game was played by giving a NBA2K rating to each player and adding up the total to determine winner, I'd agree. But, that's not how it functions on the court.

I don't think Giannis wants to (or would be well served) effectively becoming primarily a Center in function and responsibility.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[greg4012]

The Bucks are not just looking at first round picks, theyre looking at the quality of the picks. They know if they trade Giannis to play with Brunson, or play with Steph, or play with Luka, those team picks are likely not lottery picks.

Now if those teams have other team unprotected picks to offer and swaps, thats a different ball game. And theyre going to get multiple unprotected picks for him that is guaranteed, minimum 3 of them and theyre going to come from different teams.

The bucks cap situation is bad, and they may see financial relief as an asset too, but just one asset, they likely want a haul of assets for Giannis.

With Dame accounting for 23 million for the next 4 years, kuzma and portis accounting for 35 million combined next season, myles turner is likely on the block, his contract is not bad but he is out of place and without identity on the bucks. He accounts for 27 million per till 28/29 season.

Dont be shocked if this turns into a multi team trade where they move Giannis and 1-2 additional players on their roster and grab a haul of picks from various teams.

Our 2030 and 2032 picks are valuable because Giannis and Bam will be in the twilight of there careers.

lol no they are not. Even when we should tank, we because of ego are incapable of it, now factor in another team keeping the pick we wont tank. Our picks will be in the late 20s if we are being honest here and thats not motivating anyone

Let the record show that Flash4thewin has expectation for a Miami Heat team potentially featuring a 33 year old Bam and 37 year old Giannis to be top 5 in the NBA. I love the optimism!

[Crazy-Canuck]

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