Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I don’t think Barnes is realistic at all for Duncan Robinson. Why would the Kings do that? Why not just keep Barnes who’s better? The reason we want Barnes is because he’s better then Duncan but why would the Kings want to regress and tie up there books long term with Duncan? Is KZ and a a draft pick deep in the future supposed to be a sweetner?

Bad, rebuilding teams will often times trade their vets for first rounds picks/young pieces so yes I believe they would. They’ll get to put a great shooter next to Fox and Halliburton to spread the floor as they’ll probably be looking to move Buddy too.

Duncan is a little over a year younger then Hield, Duncan will be 28 in April, Hield turned 29 last month.

Yea I was speaking more to them getting picks and/or young guys. Duncan’s the salary to make it work, the other things are the true assets.

[AirP.]

Bad, rebuilding teams will often times trade their vets for first rounds picks/young pieces so yes I believe they would. They’ll get to put a great shooter next to Fox and Halliburton to spread the floor as they’ll probably be looking to move Buddy too.

Duncan is a little over a year younger then Hield, Duncan will be 28 in April, Hield turned 29 last month.

Yea I was speaking more to them getting picks and/or young guys. Duncan’s the salary to make it work, the other things are the true assets.

Strus? Herro? Maybe Yurtseven, outside of one of those guys I don't see anything all that intriguing to trade Barnes(rather try to resign him), a 1st a few years from now from Miami doesn't really move the needle since there's not much of a chance of Miami being really bad anytime soon.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Duncan is a little over a year younger then Hield, Duncan will be 28 in April, Hield turned 29 last month.

Yea I was speaking more to them getting picks and/or young guys. Duncan’s the salary to make it work, the other things are the true assets.

Strus? Herro? Maybe Yurtseven, outside of one of those guys I don't see anything all that intriguing to trade Barnes(rather try to resign him), a 1st a few years from now from Miami doesn't really move the needle since there's not much of a chance of Miami being really bad anytime soon.

Agree to disagree. Teams like the kings want picks for their vets regardless. They couple flip Duncan to a good team for a 1st and a bad contract or something as well.

[AirP.]

Yea I was speaking more to them getting picks and/or young guys. Duncan’s the salary to make it work, the other things are the true assets.

Strus? Herro? Maybe Yurtseven, outside of one of those guys I don't see anything all that intriguing to trade Barnes(rather try to resign him), a 1st a few years from now from Miami doesn't really move the needle since there's not much of a chance of Miami being really bad anytime soon.

Agree to disagree. Teams like the kings want picks for their vets regardless. They couple flip Duncan to a good team for a 1st and a bad contract or something as well.

In that case it would be a more complicated 3+ team trade. If I'm Sacramento I don't want that contract with a player from Miami, why Miami because players that aren't just great players don't do as well or better after leaving Miami's demanding environment and/or being coached by Spoelstra. To me, it's the type of trade a GM can get fired for in a year.

I believe in the Miami bump for getting more out of a player, it's why I'd take more risks on lottery talent that didn't work out elsewhere.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Strus? Herro? Maybe Yurtseven, outside of one of those guys I don't see anything all that intriguing to trade Barnes(rather try to resign him), a 1st a few years from now from Miami doesn't really move the needle since there's not much of a chance of Miami being really bad anytime soon.

Agree to disagree. Teams like the kings want picks for their vets regardless. They couple flip Duncan to a good team for a 1st and a bad contract or something as well.

In that case it would be a more complicated 3+ team trade. If I'm Sacramento I don't want that contract with a player from Miami, why Miami because players that aren't just great players don't do as well or better after leaving Miami's demanding environment and/or being coached by Spoelstra. To me, it's the type of trade a GM can get fired for in a year.

I believe in the Miami bump for getting more out of a player, it's why I'd take more risks on lottery talent that didn't work out elsewhere.

So if the kings ended up getting 2 1sts for Barnes you think there would be some people inside the kings getting fired?

[AirP.]

Agree to disagree. Teams like the kings want picks for their vets regardless. They couple flip Duncan to a good team for a 1st and a bad contract or something as well.

In that case it would be a more complicated 3+ team trade. If I'm Sacramento I don't want that contract with a player from Miami, why Miami because players that aren't just great players don't do as well or better after leaving Miami's demanding environment and/or being coached by Spoelstra. To me, it's the type of trade a GM can get fired for in a year.

I believe in the Miami bump for getting more out of a player, it's why I'd take more risks on lottery talent that didn't work out elsewhere.

So if the kings ended up getting 2 1sts for Barnes you think there would be some people inside the kings getting fired?

If they get 2 firsts and an expiring wonderful but at no time would I allow Robinson's contract to end up on the Kings roster because he could end up looking worse and they may have to send out assets to get rid of that contract.

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thank god that they werent suspened for a game or two

what about lowry? its crucial that the heat has him this sat agaisnt phoenix

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[AirP.]

what about lowry? its crucial that the heat has him this sat agaisnt phoenix

He was ejected from the game, he should be available. I'd guess he'd try to fight the normal 5k fine for being tossed on the 2nd technical.

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Wonder if we can find a way to keep K.guy once covid players all return

[MettaWorldPanda]

51 Gary Harris, SG Orlando Magic $20,482,143
52 Danilo Gallinari, PF Atlanta Hawks $20,475,000
53 Harrison Barnes, SF Sacramento Kings $20,284,091
54 Jerami Grant, SF Detroit Pistons $20,002,500
55 Jarrett Allen, C Cleveland Cavaliers $20,000,000
56 Domantas Sabonis, PF Indiana Pacers $19,800,000
57 Fred VanVleet, SG Toronto Raptors $19,675,926
58 Zach LaVine, SG Chicago Bulls $19,500,000
59 Goran Dragic, PG Toronto Raptors $19,440,000
60 Bojan Bogdanovic, SF Utah Jazz $18,700,000
61 Lonzo Ball, PG Chicago Bulls $18,604,651
62 Clint Capela, C Atlanta Hawks $18,603,448
63 Eric Gordon, SG Houston Rockets $18,218,818
64 Eric Bledsoe, SG LA Clippers $18,125,000
65 Myles Turner, C Indiana Pacers $18,000,000
66 Bogdan Bogdanovic, SG Atlanta Hawks $18,000,000
67 Terry Rozier, SG Charlotte Hornets $17,905,263
68 Ricky Rubio, PG Cleveland Cavaliers $17,800,000
69 Caris LeVert, SG Indiana Pacers $17,500,000
70 Jonathan Isaac, PF Orlando Magic $17,400,000
71 Joe Harris, SF Brooklyn Nets $17,357,143
72 Spencer Dinwiddie, PG Washington Wizards $17,142,857
73 Steven Adams, C Memphis Grizzlies $17,073,171
74 Evan Fournier, SG New York Knicks $17,000,000
75 Markelle Fultz, PG Orlando Magic $16,500,000
76 Aaron Gordon, PF Denver Nuggets $16,409,091
77 OG Anunoby, SF Toronto Raptors $16,071,429
78 Gary Trent Jr., SG Toronto Raptors $16,000,000
79 Davis Bertans, SF Washington Wizards $16,000,000
80 Lauri Markkanen, PF Cleveland Cavaliers $15,690,909
81 Duncan Robinson, SG Miami Heat $15,650,000
82 Marcus Morris Sr., SF LA Clippers $15,627,907
83 Will Barton, SF Denver Nuggets $15,625,000
84 Norman Powell, SF Portland Trail Blazers $15,517,241
85 Dejounte Murray, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,428,880
86 Derrick White, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,178,571
87 Malik Beasley, SG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,491,964
88 Marcus Smart, PG Boston Celtics $14,339,285
89 Patrick Beverley, PG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,320,988
90 Thaddeus Young, PF San Antonio Spurs $14,190,000
91 Jonas Valanciunas, C New Orleans Pelicans $14,000,000
92 Doug McDermott, SF San Antonio Spurs $13,750,000
93 Christian Wood, C Houston Rockets $13,666,667
94 Derrick Rose, PG New York Knicks $13,445,120
95 Luke Kennard, SG LA Clippers $13,347,727
96 Brook Lopez, C Milwaukee Bucks $13,302,325
97 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG Washington Wizards $13,038,862
98 Joe Ingles, SG Utah Jazz $13,036,364
99 Kyle Kuzma, SF Washington Wizards $13,000,000
100 Taurean Prince, PF Minnesota Timberwolves $13,000,000


Out of this list I see Wood and Young as the players that make the most sense involving Duncan's salary in a trade. In order to get to the 20 million area for Barnes and Grant the Heat are going to have to swing a 4-1 deal and most of these rosters on other teams are already near max capacity. I think the deals that make the most sense are for the players that are making just below what Duncan is making as it will be easier to make a deal involving other pieces and opening up a roster spot for us in the process.

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51 Gary Harris, SG Orlando Magic $20,482,143
52 Danilo Gallinari, PF Atlanta Hawks $20,475,000
53 Harrison Barnes, SF Sacramento Kings $20,284,091
54 Jerami Grant, SF Detroit Pistons $20,002,500
55 Jarrett Allen, C Cleveland Cavaliers $20,000,000
56 Domantas Sabonis, PF Indiana Pacers $19,800,000
57 Fred VanVleet, SG Toronto Raptors $19,675,926
58 Zach LaVine, SG Chicago Bulls $19,500,000
59 Goran Dragic, PG Toronto Raptors $19,440,000
60 Bojan Bogdanovic, SF Utah Jazz $18,700,000
61 Lonzo Ball, PG Chicago Bulls $18,604,651
62 Clint Capela, C Atlanta Hawks $18,603,448
63 Eric Gordon, SG Houston Rockets $18,218,818
64 Eric Bledsoe, SG LA Clippers $18,125,000
65 Myles Turner, C Indiana Pacers $18,000,000
66 Bogdan Bogdanovic, SG Atlanta Hawks $18,000,000
67 Terry Rozier, SG Charlotte Hornets $17,905,263
68 Ricky Rubio, PG Cleveland Cavaliers $17,800,000
69 Caris LeVert, SG Indiana Pacers $17,500,000
70 Jonathan Isaac, PF Orlando Magic $17,400,000
71 Joe Harris, SF Brooklyn Nets $17,357,143
72 Spencer Dinwiddie, PG Washington Wizards $17,142,857
73 Steven Adams, C Memphis Grizzlies $17,073,171
74 Evan Fournier, SG New York Knicks $17,000,000
75 Markelle Fultz, PG Orlando Magic $16,500,000
76 Aaron Gordon, PF Denver Nuggets $16,409,091
77 OG Anunoby, SF Toronto Raptors $16,071,429
78 Gary Trent Jr., SG Toronto Raptors $16,000,000
79 Davis Bertans, SF Washington Wizards $16,000,000
80 Lauri Markkanen, PF Cleveland Cavaliers $15,690,909
81 Duncan Robinson, SG Miami Heat $15,650,000
82 Marcus Morris Sr., SF LA Clippers $15,627,907
83 Will Barton, SF Denver Nuggets $15,625,000
84 Norman Powell, SF Portland Trail Blazers $15,517,241
85 Dejounte Murray, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,428,880
86 Derrick White, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,178,571
87 Malik Beasley, SG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,491,964
88 Marcus Smart, PG Boston Celtics $14,339,285
89 Patrick Beverley, PG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,320,988
90 Thaddeus Young, PF San Antonio Spurs $14,190,000
91 Jonas Valanciunas, C New Orleans Pelicans $14,000,000
92 Doug McDermott, SF San Antonio Spurs $13,750,000
93 Christian Wood, C Houston Rockets $13,666,667
94 Derrick Rose, PG New York Knicks $13,445,120
95 Luke Kennard, SG LA Clippers $13,347,727
96 Brook Lopez, C Milwaukee Bucks $13,302,325
97 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG Washington Wizards $13,038,862
98 Joe Ingles, SG Utah Jazz $13,036,364
99 Kyle Kuzma, SF Washington Wizards $13,000,000
100 Taurean Prince, PF Minnesota Timberwolves $13,000,000

Out of this list I see Wood and Young as the players that make the most sense involving Duncan's salary in a trade. In order to get to the 20 million area for Barnes and Grant the Heat are going to have to swing a 4-1 deal and most of these rosters on other teams are already near max capacity. I think the deals that make the most sense are for the players that are making just below what Duncan is making as it will be easier to make a deal involving other pieces and opening up a roster spot for us in the process.

Jonathan Isaac, Miami could even just wait on him to become healthy(Miami has PJ signed for next year too). Outside of his 3pt shot, that's a near 7 foot wing that's a very good defender.

[Wiltside]

Spoiler:

51 Gary Harris, SG Orlando Magic $20,482,143
52 Danilo Gallinari, PF Atlanta Hawks $20,475,000
53 Harrison Barnes, SF Sacramento Kings $20,284,091
54 Jerami Grant, SF Detroit Pistons $20,002,500
55 Jarrett Allen, C Cleveland Cavaliers $20,000,000
56 Domantas Sabonis, PF Indiana Pacers $19,800,000
57 Fred VanVleet, SG Toronto Raptors $19,675,926
58 Zach LaVine, SG Chicago Bulls $19,500,000
59 Goran Dragic, PG Toronto Raptors $19,440,000
60 Bojan Bogdanovic, SF Utah Jazz $18,700,000
61 Lonzo Ball, PG Chicago Bulls $18,604,651
62 Clint Capela, C Atlanta Hawks $18,603,448
63 Eric Gordon, SG Houston Rockets $18,218,818
64 Eric Bledsoe, SG LA Clippers $18,125,000
65 Myles Turner, C Indiana Pacers $18,000,000
66 Bogdan Bogdanovic, SG Atlanta Hawks $18,000,000
67 Terry Rozier, SG Charlotte Hornets $17,905,263
68 Ricky Rubio, PG Cleveland Cavaliers $17,800,000
69 Caris LeVert, SG Indiana Pacers $17,500,000
70 Jonathan Isaac, PF Orlando Magic $17,400,000
71 Joe Harris, SF Brooklyn Nets $17,357,143
72 Spencer Dinwiddie, PG Washington Wizards $17,142,857
73 Steven Adams, C Memphis Grizzlies $17,073,171
74 Evan Fournier, SG New York Knicks $17,000,000
75 Markelle Fultz, PG Orlando Magic $16,500,000
76 Aaron Gordon, PF Denver Nuggets $16,409,091
77 OG Anunoby, SF Toronto Raptors $16,071,429
78 Gary Trent Jr., SG Toronto Raptors $16,000,000
79 Davis Bertans, SF Washington Wizards $16,000,000
80 Lauri Markkanen, PF Cleveland Cavaliers $15,690,909
81 Duncan Robinson, SG Miami Heat $15,650,000
82 Marcus Morris Sr., SF LA Clippers $15,627,907
83 Will Barton, SF Denver Nuggets $15,625,000
84 Norman Powell, SF Portland Trail Blazers $15,517,241
85 Dejounte Murray, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,428,880
86 Derrick White, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,178,571
87 Malik Beasley, SG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,491,964
88 Marcus Smart, PG Boston Celtics $14,339,285
89 Patrick Beverley, PG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,320,988
90 Thaddeus Young, PF San Antonio Spurs $14,190,000
91 Jonas Valanciunas, C New Orleans Pelicans $14,000,000
92 Doug McDermott, SF San Antonio Spurs $13,750,000
93 Christian Wood, C Houston Rockets $13,666,667
94 Derrick Rose, PG New York Knicks $13,445,120
95 Luke Kennard, SG LA Clippers $13,347,727
96 Brook Lopez, C Milwaukee Bucks $13,302,325
97 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG Washington Wizards $13,038,862
98 Joe Ingles, SG Utah Jazz $13,036,364
99 Kyle Kuzma, SF Washington Wizards $13,000,000
100 Taurean Prince, PF Minnesota Timberwolves $13,000,000

Out of this list I see Wood and Young as the players that make the most sense involving Duncan's salary in a trade. In order to get to the 20 million area for Barnes and Grant the Heat are going to have to swing a 4-1 deal and most of these rosters on other teams are already near max capacity. I think the deals that make the most sense are for the players that are making just below what Duncan is making as it will be easier to make a deal involving other pieces and opening up a roster spot for us in the process.

Jonathan Isaac, Miami could even just wait on him to become healthy(Miami has PJ signed for next year too). Outside of his 3pt shot, that's a near 7 foot wing that's a very good defender.

Isaac would be excellent, but I still feel the Magic will be reluctant to deal him. Particularly to an intra state rival.

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Another team will probably offer a multi-year deal Heat should really move quick if the don't wanna lose Jack Harlow

[greg4012]

Jonathan Isaac, Miami could even just wait on him to become healthy(Miami has PJ signed for next year too). Outside of his 3pt shot, that's a near 7 foot wing that's a very good defender.

Isaac has always been my dream pairing with Bam.

I think he can be serviceable enough from 3 (especially when focused on taking the right open 3s) and he is versatile with nice upside on offense.

That's not even getting to the fact that a Bam-Isaac frontcourt pairing would be the most versatile defensive frontcourt pairing the NBA may have ever seen and would be ELITE to an extent that the NBA may not have seen since Ben & Rasheed paired up in Detroit.

The emergence of Franz Wagner makes things interesting on this front.

[AirP.]

Spoiler:

51 Gary Harris, SG Orlando Magic $20,482,143
52 Danilo Gallinari, PF Atlanta Hawks $20,475,000
53 Harrison Barnes, SF Sacramento Kings $20,284,091
54 Jerami Grant, SF Detroit Pistons $20,002,500
55 Jarrett Allen, C Cleveland Cavaliers $20,000,000
56 Domantas Sabonis, PF Indiana Pacers $19,800,000
57 Fred VanVleet, SG Toronto Raptors $19,675,926
58 Zach LaVine, SG Chicago Bulls $19,500,000
59 Goran Dragic, PG Toronto Raptors $19,440,000
60 Bojan Bogdanovic, SF Utah Jazz $18,700,000
61 Lonzo Ball, PG Chicago Bulls $18,604,651
62 Clint Capela, C Atlanta Hawks $18,603,448
63 Eric Gordon, SG Houston Rockets $18,218,818
64 Eric Bledsoe, SG LA Clippers $18,125,000
65 Myles Turner, C Indiana Pacers $18,000,000
66 Bogdan Bogdanovic, SG Atlanta Hawks $18,000,000
67 Terry Rozier, SG Charlotte Hornets $17,905,263
68 Ricky Rubio, PG Cleveland Cavaliers $17,800,000
69 Caris LeVert, SG Indiana Pacers $17,500,000
70 Jonathan Isaac, PF Orlando Magic $17,400,000
71 Joe Harris, SF Brooklyn Nets $17,357,143
72 Spencer Dinwiddie, PG Washington Wizards $17,142,857
73 Steven Adams, C Memphis Grizzlies $17,073,171
74 Evan Fournier, SG New York Knicks $17,000,000
75 Markelle Fultz, PG Orlando Magic $16,500,000
76 Aaron Gordon, PF Denver Nuggets $16,409,091
77 OG Anunoby, SF Toronto Raptors $16,071,429
78 Gary Trent Jr., SG Toronto Raptors $16,000,000
79 Davis Bertans, SF Washington Wizards $16,000,000
80 Lauri Markkanen, PF Cleveland Cavaliers $15,690,909
81 Duncan Robinson, SG Miami Heat $15,650,000
82 Marcus Morris Sr., SF LA Clippers $15,627,907
83 Will Barton, SF Denver Nuggets $15,625,000
84 Norman Powell, SF Portland Trail Blazers $15,517,241
85 Dejounte Murray, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,428,880
86 Derrick White, PG San Antonio Spurs $15,178,571
87 Malik Beasley, SG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,491,964
88 Marcus Smart, PG Boston Celtics $14,339,285
89 Patrick Beverley, PG Minnesota Timberwolves $14,320,988
90 Thaddeus Young, PF San Antonio Spurs $14,190,000
91 Jonas Valanciunas, C New Orleans Pelicans $14,000,000
92 Doug McDermott, SF San Antonio Spurs $13,750,000
93 Christian Wood, C Houston Rockets $13,666,667
94 Derrick Rose, PG New York Knicks $13,445,120
95 Luke Kennard, SG LA Clippers $13,347,727
96 Brook Lopez, C Milwaukee Bucks $13,302,325
97 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG Washington Wizards $13,038,862
98 Joe Ingles, SG Utah Jazz $13,036,364
99 Kyle Kuzma, SF Washington Wizards $13,000,000
100 Taurean Prince, PF Minnesota Timberwolves $13,000,000

Out of this list I see Wood and Young as the players that make the most sense involving Duncan's salary in a trade. In order to get to the 20 million area for Barnes and Grant the Heat are going to have to swing a 4-1 deal and most of these rosters on other teams are already near max capacity. I think the deals that make the most sense are for the players that are making just below what Duncan is making as it will be easier to make a deal involving other pieces and opening up a roster spot for us in the process.

Jonathan Isaac, Miami could even just wait on him to become healthy(Miami has PJ signed for next year too). Outside of his 3pt shot, that's a near 7 foot wing that's a very good defender.

Isaac would be excellent, but I still feel the Magic will be reluctant to deal him. Particularly to an intra state rival.

Mo Bamba is a RFA, they just signed Carter Jr long term who is playing PF next to Mo Bamba, they have F.Wagner at SF who could play some PF. Looking at their guards they have Anthony, Suggs, Fultz, Ross and Hampton, to me I could make an argument that maybe you want to add more 3pt shooting to that roster vs a defensive guy, it would cost more then Robinson for Miami. It just depends what you want to go with in Orlando but it's incredible how little they've invested in 3pt shooting. If Orlando had better shooting guards I don't think they'd consider it but they have invested money in a non shooter like Fultz where having someone to pair him up with like Robinson could make sense.

I don't really know what direction Orlando is going, they always seem to be changing.

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Another team will probably offer a multi-year deal Heat should really move quick if the don't wanna lose Jack Harlow

Miami has until Jan 15th to sign 2-way players, Miami could convert C.Martin to a vet minimum making him available for the playoffs and with that, sign Guy to a 2-way and they'd hold bird rights to both players so as Miami goes into the tax next year they could retain their developing bench players.

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