Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 2.0

[MettaWorldPanda]

You initially implied that it’s a waste of time to consider this idea because Charlotte will likely extend Bridges, but now you are implying that Mia wouldn’t have an interest.

Trading for an upgrade at 1 and 4 is a popular discussion topic in the Heat community and for good reason.

But there’s also the challenge of managing the cap.

The idea checks the boxes fit and salary wise so I don’t see why it can’t be legitimately considered.

I’m just saying I don’t think the Heat are inclined to wanting to deal with Bridges as an opinion. His basketball fit would be great but sometimes when considering these trades it’s a lot more then that. Bridges is due a contract and i’m not sure we would be in a position to do or want too extend him especially at the sacrifice of Herro.

Do u think Bridges is in a position to command as much money as Herro is currently getting?

I’m not sure but I don’t think Riley wants to have that discussion with Paul when the time comes. Right now Bridges is building his value up and he’s been in Charlotte since day one so nobody knows him more or may be more inclined to keep riding it out with him.

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[Beenie]

I’m just saying I don’t think the Heat are inclined to wanting to deal with Bridges as an opinion. His basketball fit would be great but sometimes when considering these trades it’s a lot more then that. Bridges is due a contract and i’m not sure we would be in a position to do or want too extend him especially at the sacrifice of Herro.

Do u think Bridges is in a position to command as much money as Herro is currently getting?

I’m not sure but I don’t think Riley wants to have that discussion with Paul when the time comes. Right now Bridges is building his value up and he’s been in Charlotte since day one so nobody knows him more or may be more inclined to keep riding it out with him.

Not buying the narrative that Riley has blackballed Klutch from future business.

Riley once said that he’d leave the key under the mat for Lebron.

Regarding charlotte, it’s reasonable to suggest that they would entertain the idea of unloading Bridges so that at a minimum they sever any risk of his immaturity affecting Lemelo who is young and immature in his own right.

They aren’t gonna give him away but the idea of pairing a young, vet, sharp shooter in Herro with their star PG is within the scoop of reasonable consideration.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I think the Heat would look into Bridges, we’ve never had an issue singing woman beaters in the past fwiw.

[AirP.]

Do u think Bridges is in a position to command as much money as Herro is currently getting?

I’m not sure but I don’t think Riley wants to have that discussion with Paul when the time comes. Right now Bridges is building his value up and he’s been in Charlotte since day one so nobody knows him more or may be more inclined to keep riding it out with him.

Not buying the narrative that Riley has blackballed Klutch from future business.

Riley once said that he’d leave the key under the mat for Lebron.

Regarding charlotte, it’s reasonable to suggest that they would entertain the idea of unloading Bridges so that at a minimum they sever any risk of his immaturity affecting Lemelo who is young and immature in his own right.

They aren’t gonna give him away but the idea of pairing a young, vet, sharp shooter in Herro with their star PG is within the scoop of reasonable consideration.

I also doubt either have been blackballed by the other but believe both sides understand that the starting point for the other side is much higher (Riley loves using leverage as an asset) than the normal starting point and with that, no need to interact with each other until there's desperation which it seems neither ever get to.

I will say, if LeBron were to end up in Miami and he and Riley were to get one last championship it would be an incredible end to both of their careers.

[gom]

Regarding charlotte, it’s reasonable to suggest that they would entertain the idea of unloading Bridges so that at a minimum they sever any risk of his immaturity affecting Lemelo who is young and immature in his own right.

Immature hardly describes his criminal behavior. I cannot imagine wanting this player on Miami. He should be out of the NBA.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/miles-bridges-domestic-violence-case-timeline-charges-sentencing-suspension-information-for-hornets-forward/

[Beenie]

I’m not sure but I don’t think Riley wants to have that discussion with Paul when the time comes. Right now Bridges is building his value up and he’s been in Charlotte since day one so nobody knows him more or may be more inclined to keep riding it out with him.

Not buying the narrative that Riley has blackballed Klutch from future business.

Riley once said that he’d leave the key under the mat for Lebron.

Regarding charlotte, it’s reasonable to suggest that they would entertain the idea of unloading Bridges so that at a minimum they sever any risk of his immaturity affecting Lemelo who is young and immature in his own right.

They aren’t gonna give him away but the idea of pairing a young, vet, sharp shooter in Herro with their star PG is within the scoop of reasonable consideration.

I also doubt either have been blackballed by the other but believe both sides understand that the starting point for the other side is much higher (Riley loves using leverage as an asset) than the normal starting point and with that, no need to interact with each other until there's desperation which it seems neither ever get to.

I will say, if LeBron were to end up in Miami and he and Riley were to get one last championship it would be an incredible end to both of their careers.

Mia never really acts desperate but internally, considering that Dame publicly requested to go to Mia and they couldn’t land him, Lowry not meeting expectations since signing him to a large contract, the loss of Vincent for nothing, losing out on the Holiday sweepstakes to Bos, and the injury to Smith, it’s not unreasonable to think that they really, REALLY want to add a PG.

Also reasonable to think that they believe that they are a contender.

I think a good faith offer for Rozier is within the realm of realistic consideration.

Just so happens that the idea of adding Bridges, Herro, and Martin into the deal fills the contractural and logical gaps for both teams.

Regarding Lebron, that would be a storybook ending indeed.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I would love to get Kuminga, we would turn him into a 2 way monster

[Beenie]

Regarding charlotte, it’s reasonable to suggest that they would entertain the idea of unloading Bridges so that at a minimum they sever any risk of his immaturity affecting Lemelo who is young and immature in his own right.

Immature hardly describes his criminal behavior. I cannot imagine wanting this player on Miami. He should be out of the NBA.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/miles-bridges-domestic-violence-case-timeline-charges-sentencing-suspension-information-for-hornets-forward/

I’m not gonna play the role of moral arbiter, and furthermore, if we are gonna be moral arbiters and say players ought to be banned from the league, I suspect that there would be a decently sized list of players who would be on the outside lookin in.

Regarding the immaturity comment, a while back, before his suspension, he posted a photo of what appeared to be a cup of lean. I think that is more of a concern from the standpoint of not wanting him to be a bad influence their other young star in Melo.

A team like Mia, who is primed to be a contender this season, can afford to absorb the risk and has the veteran lead culture in place to hold him accountable.

[AirP.]

Mia never really acts desperate but internally, considering that Dame publicly requested to go to Mia and they couldn’t land him, Lowry not meeting expectations since signing him to a large contract, the loss of Vincent for nothing, losing out on the Holiday sweepstakes to Bos, and the injury to Smith, it’s not unreasonable to think that they really, REALLY want to add a PG.

Also reasonable to think that they believe that they are a contender.

I think a good faith offer for Rozier is within the realm of realistic consideration.

Just so happens that the idea of adding Bridges, Herro, and Martin into the deal fills the contractural and logical gaps for both teams.

Regarding Lebron, that would be a storybook ending indeed.

What expectations were on Lowry who was already past his prime? To me it was just a way to make Butler happy after their 2021 plan went down the toilet and there really weren't any good options in free agency (unless L.Ball was an option but NO let him walk for a reason).

Although I like Rozier, he is not proven as a playoff performer and has the same amount of 20+ point games in the playoffs(6) as Herro has. So, unless he's very cheap (asset wise) and Miami has a good plan going forward with dealing with their salary issues go get him I'd be a cautious with that type of move.

Miami needs a proven playoff scorer, if you're going to roll the dice on a high-priced player that's not a proven scorer, Miami would probably be better off just staying with Herro.

[Beenie]

Mia never really acts desperate but internally, considering that Dame publicly requested to go to Mia and they couldn’t land him, Lowry not meeting expectations since signing him to a large contract, the loss of Vincent for nothing, losing out on the Holiday sweepstakes to Bos, and the injury to Smith, it’s not unreasonable to think that they really, REALLY want to add a PG.

Also reasonable to think that they believe that they are a contender.

I think a good faith offer for Rozier is within the realm of realistic consideration.

Just so happens that the idea of adding Bridges, Herro, and Martin into the deal fills the contractural and logical gaps for both teams.

Regarding Lebron, that would be a storybook ending indeed.

What expectations were on Lowry who was already past his prime? To me it was just a way to make Butler happy after their 2021 plan went down the toilet and there really weren't any good options in free agency (unless L.Ball was an option but NO let him walk for a reason).

Although I like Rozier, he is not proven as a playoff performer and has the same amount of 20+ point games in the playoffs(6) as Herro has. So, unless he's very cheap (asset wise) and Miami has a good plan going forward with dealing with their salary issues go get him I'd be a cautious with that type of move.

Miami needs a proven playoff scorer, if you're going to roll the dice on a high-priced player that's not a proven scorer, Miami would probably be better off just staying with Herro.

I think the Lowry signing was more than just a bone thrown to Jimmy and that Mia believed that his veteran leadership and shot making was gonna be an upgrade over Dragic.

Rozier’s a vet, so although he’s mostly unproven in the playoffs, the concern about the spotlight being too big for him isn’t that much of a concern.

I think his temperament and general disposition aligns with the so called heat culture and, if anything, at this stage of his career, he’d shine in big playoff games. Just my opinion.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Regarding Lebron, that would be a storybook ending indeed.

As badly as it initially ended, other than the ego aspect of it (of which Riley is no innocent), he definitely fit in like a glove to this organization in terms of work ethic. But I have to imagine he’d be happier hanging it up.

[AirP.]

Mia never really acts desperate but internally, considering that Dame publicly requested to go to Mia and they couldn’t land him, Lowry not meeting expectations since signing him to a large contract, the loss of Vincent for nothing, losing out on the Holiday sweepstakes to Bos, and the injury to Smith, it’s not unreasonable to think that they really, REALLY want to add a PG.

Also reasonable to think that they believe that they are a contender.

I think a good faith offer for Rozier is within the realm of realistic consideration.

Just so happens that the idea of adding Bridges, Herro, and Martin into the deal fills the contractural and logical gaps for both teams.

Regarding Lebron, that would be a storybook ending indeed.

What expectations were on Lowry who was already past his prime? To me it was just a way to make Butler happy after their 2021 plan went down the toilet and there really weren't any good options in free agency (unless L.Ball was an option but NO let him walk for a reason).

Although I like Rozier, he is not proven as a playoff performer and has the same amount of 20+ point games in the playoffs(6) as Herro has. So, unless he's very cheap (asset wise) and Miami has a good plan going forward with dealing with their salary issues go get him I'd be a cautious with that type of move.

Miami needs a proven playoff scorer, if you're going to roll the dice on a high-priced player that's not a proven scorer, Miami would probably be better off just staying with Herro.

I think the Lowry signing was more than just a bone thrown to Jimmy and that Mia believed that his veteran leadership and shot making was gonna be an upgrade over Dragic.

Rozier’s a vet, so although he’s mostly unproven in the playoffs, the concern about the spotlight being too big for him isn’t that much of a concern.

I think his temperament and general disposition aligns with the so called heat culture and, if anything, at this stage of his career, he’d shine in big playoff games. Just my opinion.

Sure, but he's still a question mark for the playoffs where the games are different with it being a win or go home series, teams get to concentrate on exploiting your weaknesses and try to take away your strengths, hence a reason of wanting a proven scorer in the playoffs which basically means for a scorer, being a more diverse or dominate scorer where you can't be slowed down much.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Get it done!!

[Flash4thewin]

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Get it done!!

No way they trade him to us for that package. Also no way we get enough under the cap to give him a max contract without sending multiple first round draft picks to multiple teams to take on our plays, even then its unlikely we can get max space for him. So if we want him expect to pay a heavy price so JJJ is probably gone for sure.

[oreon]

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Get it done!!

No way they trade him to us for that package. Also no way we get enough under the cap to give him a max contract without sending multiple first round draft picks to multiple teams to take on our plays, even then its unlikely we can get max space for him. So if we want him expect to pay a heavy price so JJJ is probably gone for sure.

This is a pretty good package. I don't know if they're gonna get any better than this for a guy who can opt out after next season. They'd have to move him to a team where he would resign. And we know he wants to play in a big market.

So that would be Heat, Knicks, Nets, Lakers, GSW, Sixers

Sixers and Knicks are out since they already have point guards. Lakers, GSW don't have much to offer. So that leaves the Nets. Lets say their best offer is Claxton, Cam Thomas + picks. I don't think that considerably better than the Heat. There are teams like OKC, Raps, NO that can put way better offers but I don't think they would risk it if Mitchell doesn't want to be there. Unlike Dame, he will have a ton of leverage in the summer to get himself to where he wants to be

TBH I'm not all the way in for it. I'd need to see how Herro does in playoffs before moving him. And I think from all indications Mitchell isn't getting moved this trade deadline anyways

[Lilseb93]

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We needed some size. They say he's out of this world.

[AirP.]

With no extension completed by Dec 30th (deadline for Toronto to get it done during the season), it looks like Siakam will finally be moved.

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[Wiltside]

With no extension completed by Dec 30th (deadline for Toronto to get it done during the season), it looks like Siakam will finally be moved.

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Warriors make sense. Kuminga, picks, bundle up some salaries. They need a shake up and Pascal is a quality PF/C who would fit.

[Hoops3355]

Managing the cap and improving is proving to be a daunting task. A sacrifice is going to have to be made before the deadline. I just don’t see anyway around it. With the emergence of JJJ i feel like our wing spot is clogged and we sit here relying on the 38 year old Lowry to carry us to the promise land until be breaks down at the worst time and we are left with a wing in J Rich as our only backup PG.

Caleb makes so much more sense if you are gonna move someone. We were gonna lose him in the offseason anyways why not see what he can land be a PG or PF.