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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1561 » by VaDe255 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:52 pm

wadenation305 wrote:The band-aid is ripped off. We should really take this opportunity to do a proper rebuild. Tear everything down.

I love Bam, wish he could be on this team for life. But he's wasting his career here at this point and he's our most valuable player by a mile. I really like him in OKC. We can swap Bam with hart cleanly, and they have a ton of picks that they don't even know what to do with. Besides our picks. If we can get all our picks back from them plus (our '25 pick would already be a picked player) plus additional picks like the 76ers from them. Talking about 5-6 picks total.

For Herro it's a lot harder. He has value, but he plays at a position where almost every team has one already. I spent hours tinkering with a trade machine trying to find a trade that made sense for both teams but didn't really find one. Might just keep him as our big contract for cap floor purposes to be traded at a later time should something advantageous presents itself.

If we can get 2 2nd's for Terry as cap relief at the deadline ship him out. Wiggins also should have at least a 1st round pick or two value. Play Ware, Jovic, Jaquez, Larson as many minutes as possible, really see what you have in those guys.

The one thing that is for certain is that Giannis, Donic, Jokic, SGA, Tatum/Brown, those types of guys..... they aren't walking through the Heat's training facility doors anytime soon. Even if they wanted to come here. We couldn't be in the conversation. That's just reality. Our best chance is to find the next SGA, not acquiring him via trade.


Orlando would probably pay for Herro, Suggs/Herro back court is solid for the forseable future.
Ask for Black + some pick package like 2 FRPs depending on quality, maybe see what else you can get.

Wouldn't mind that, considering he's about to ask for an extension.
I rather not gamble on his potential and rather get value, I think he can be a perennial all star level player for the next 5 years, but unfortunately that is just not enough.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1562 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:09 pm

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jbsays wrote:I'm not sure why people are so against Durant if you can add him to Bam, Herro, Ware, and some of the other young guys. He seems like a guy you could plug in to stop these scoring droughts. Obviously he's not going to be a 30+ppg scorer and he's only get 2-3 seasons left. But, I don't see a younger guy coming here.

Seems to me the only options are:

1) Try to get an older guy like Durant to pair with Bam, Herro, Ware, and whoever else.
2) Slightly overpay for a younger guy you think will turn into an All NBA/Allstar level player.
3) Rebuild. This means moving Bam and Herro for picks and younger talent.
4) Stay the same and fight for 8-10 in the East.



Because its not likely gonna happen.

Rinse n repeat, fans clamor for star, team tries to get the star, but ultimately is outbid.


Outbid because they try to bend everyone over and that ish isn’t going to work
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1563 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:17 pm

jbsays wrote:I'm not sure why people are so against Durant if you can add him to Bam, Herro, Ware, and some of the other young guys. He seems like a guy you could plug in to stop these scoring droughts. Obviously he's not going to be a 30+ppg scorer and he's only get 2-3 seasons left. But, I don't see a younger guy coming here.

Seems to me the only options are:

1) Try to get an older guy like Durant to pair with Bam, Herro, Ware, and whoever else.
2) Slightly overpay for a younger guy you think will turn into an All NBA/Allstar level player.
3) Rebuild. This means moving Bam and Herro for picks and younger talent.
4) Stay the same and fight for 8-10 in the East.


We would’ve won majority of the games we’ve blown leads if we had a scorer like KD on the team to settle everything down. Although that might not even matter because Spo might just run everything through Terry and Wiggins still.

One of the big problems with this team holding leads is they go away from what got them there, they don’t feed the hot hand. Bam started the game on first and wasn’t involved at all in the 2nd and not until like the last few minutes of the 3rd. Then wasn’t involved again until the end of the 4th. Herro wasn’t involved at all in the 1st half. They stood there and watched Wiggins throw up inefficient contested mid range jumpers and turn the ball over constantly and then we wanted them to bail us out the end when they didn’t have a rhythm. Major props to teams who run everything through their best players (basically every team but us)

Also would’ve helped to have a PG like Davion on the court considering his recent assist to turnover ratio is elite. Hes playing good basketball
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Post#1564 » by SerialChiller » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:23 pm

This perfectly sums up the season so far...

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Post#1565 » by contract » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:35 pm

jbsays wrote:I'm not sure why people are so against Durant if you can add him to Bam, Herro, Ware, and some of the other young guys. He seems like a guy you could plug in to stop these scoring droughts. Obviously he's not going to be a 30+ppg scorer and he's only get 2-3 seasons left. But, I don't see a younger guy coming here.

Seems to me the only options are:

1) Try to get an older guy like Durant to pair with Bam, Herro, Ware, and whoever else.
2) Slightly overpay for a younger guy you think will turn into an All NBA/Allstar level player.
3) Rebuild. This means moving Bam and Herro for picks and younger talent.
4) Stay the same and fight for 8-10 in the East.

I've been clear that I don't want to add a 37 year old like Durant. But if we were to add Durant, the last thing I'd want is to have Tyler on the team competing for shots with him. This is year 4 of Tyler leading this team in FGA per game. If we got Durant, there could be only one alpha.
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Post#1566 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:37 pm

We need to go with the best stretch 4 scoring PF in the draft. I think Asa Newell from Georgia could be realistic. Double down on the front court and make that rotation elite with Bam, Ware, Newell, and Jovic. Focus on getting veterans in the backcourt. Maybe with the late first take a stab at a Euro PG or flip it for a veteran PG to help guide the young players. Bam and Ware sounded like it could present a future front court but I think Bam needs someone more offense a long side of him that can take guys off the dribble and be more of a dynamic offensive option instead of just a lob big who can occasionally shoot a 3. Jovic has great chemistry with both Bam and Ware so now it's time to find another player like that in case Jovic goes down to injury. You have seen how crippling it's been to the front court rotation.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1567 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:37 pm

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jbsays wrote:I'm not sure why people are so against Durant if you can add him to Bam, Herro, Ware, and some of the other young guys. He seems like a guy you could plug in to stop these scoring droughts. Obviously he's not going to be a 30+ppg scorer and he's only get 2-3 seasons left. But, I don't see a younger guy coming here.

Seems to me the only options are:

1) Try to get an older guy like Durant to pair with Bam, Herro, Ware, and whoever else.
2) Slightly overpay for a younger guy you think will turn into an All NBA/Allstar level player.
3) Rebuild. This means moving Bam and Herro for picks and younger talent.
4) Stay the same and fight for 8-10 in the East.

I've been clear that I don't want to add a 37 year old like Durant. But if we were to add Durant, the last thing I'd want is to have Tyler on the team competing for shots with him. This is year 4 of Tyler leading this team in FGA per game. If we got Durant, there could be only one alpha.


Send him out, build a big 3 and let’s run it with another 4 year window like we had back in the big 3 era.
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Post#1568 » by Flash4thewin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:35 pm

So help me understand the KD path? Why would KD want to come here to begin with? The only reason he originally wanted Miami was to play with Jimmy and Bam right? Well we dont have Jimmy any more and as a Sun he was basically demanding they trade for Jimmy right? Honestly it seems more likely that KD now teams back up with Golden State now that they have Jimmy than him coming here unfortunately.
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Post#1569 » by Hoops3355 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:37 pm

We will probably going 0-10 or 1-9. Spo masterclass on stealth tanking continues.
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Post#1570 » by Beenie » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:42 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Beenie wrote:
jbsays wrote:I'm not sure why people are so against Durant if you can add him to Bam, Herro, Ware, and some of the other young guys. He seems like a guy you could plug in to stop these scoring droughts. Obviously he's not going to be a 30+ppg scorer and he's only get 2-3 seasons left. But, I don't see a younger guy coming here.

Seems to me the only options are:

1) Try to get an older guy like Durant to pair with Bam, Herro, Ware, and whoever else.
2) Slightly overpay for a younger guy you think will turn into an All NBA/Allstar level player.
3) Rebuild. This means moving Bam and Herro for picks and younger talent.
4) Stay the same and fight for 8-10 in the East.



Because its not likely gonna happen.

Rinse n repeat, fans clamor for star, team tries to get the star, but ultimately is outbid.


Outbid because they try to bend everyone over and that ish isn’t going to work


Whatever the reason, anyone getting their hopes up about landing a star this offseason is beyond me.
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Post#1571 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:01 pm

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Post#1572 » by DayofMourning » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:34 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:We need to go with the best stretch 4 scoring PF in the draft. I think Asa Newell from Georgia could be realistic. Double down on the front court and make that rotation elite with Bam, Ware, Newell, and Jovic. Focus on getting veterans in the backcourt. Maybe with the late first take a stab at a Euro PG or flip it for a veteran PG to help guide the young players. Bam and Ware sounded like it could present a future front court but I think Bam needs someone more offense a long side of him that can take guys off the dribble and be more of a dynamic offensive option instead of just a lob big who can occasionally shoot a 3. Jovic has great chemistry with both Bam and Ware so now it's time to find another player like that in case Jovic goes down to injury. You have seen how crippling it's been to the front court rotation.


Ive always like Asa. Hes def going top ten.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1573 » by carnageta » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:37 pm

I want KD but not for 3 FRPs + a young asset, etc. That' what the Suns 'gambled' for KD and he's not worth that much 3 seasons later in his late 30s. Hopefully James Jones understands this.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1574 » by twix2500 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:17 pm

Since the All-Star Break

Tyler Herro 23.4 pts, 19.6 fga, 42% FG%, 31% 3p%, 6.6 ast, 4.6 fta
113 Ortg, 115 Drtg

Bam Adebayo
22.9 pts, 15.6 fga, 56% fg%, 36 3p%, 3.7 ast, 9.7 rebs, 5.1 fta
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1575 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:20 pm

Beenie wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Beenie wrote:

Because its not likely gonna happen.

Rinse n repeat, fans clamor for star, team tries to get the star, but ultimately is outbid.


Outbid because they try to bend everyone over and that ish isn’t going to work


Whatever the reason, anyone getting their hopes up about landing a star this offseason is beyond me.

Very slim chance. Durant is not coming here. That ship sailed the moment Jimmy was traded.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1576 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:55 pm

twix2500 wrote:Since the All-Star Break

Tyler Herro 23.4 pts, 19.6 fga, 42% FG%, 31% 3p%, 6.6 ast, 4.6 fta
113 Ortg, 115 Drtg

Bam Adebayo
22.9 pts, 15.6 fga, 56% fg%, 36 3p%, 3.7 ast, 9.7 rebs, 5.1 fta


Bam needs more shots, 19-20 a night
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Post#1577 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:59 pm

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Post#1578 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:00 pm

Damn is something up with posting tweets on here or is it just me?
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Post#1579 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:54 pm

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Post#1580 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:30 pm

A lot of articles being wrote today outlining our deal we would send for KD but apparently tweets aren’t working today
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