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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1561 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:55 pm

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Looks like Jaime was there with Bam. Luka next to Rui in the photo. I don’t think Bam was recruiting Luka lol


I mean we saw a lot of videos with the 2 of them handing out I’m sure they talked about the idea of playing together. If we’re judging off that photo looks like Banchero was recruiting Bam to fill their hole at C :o Luka could’ve also been recruiting Bam, or who knows, maybe they all just chilled over the weekend lol

I’m under the notion it was a corporate party and they were all just having a good time. Maybe a jokingly come play for the Heat could have came out but maybe not. Just a bunch of rich dudes drinking and having a good time. Zion was also there too probably killing all the platter trays.


They had to drag Zion back in from the nearest brothel to get the picture
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1562 » by DayofMourning » Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:57 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case


Id try to up his shot volume this year.

He averaged 12 attempts per 36. Id try and get him up to 16. Establish him so we can get better looks for our other guys. In my eyes hes a bucket 10 feet and in. He just needs to get familiar with that role. Our whole offense cant be perimeter based.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1563 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:00 pm

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This is a developmental season. Miami is not a contender in current form.

So why did we go after a vet in Powell then to shore up the backcourt? Could’t there be a case to get one extra vet to shore up a thin front court?


Bc he was free and will help the whole environment.

I have no issue with adding a vet to replace Kevin Love as the "break glass" big. I think that's a helpful idea. But, that's not really what you're advocating for. I'm just pushing back on the idea that it's some necessity to add a big to get regular rotation minutes.

I do wonder if Goldin will have an opp for that role.

When the depth chart only has 3 legit rotational players in the front court and a two way i think you need more then just a break in case big. Goldin should be viewed as that. If we get Vucevic there’s no reason he can’t get 15-20 min off the bench in a 4 man big rotation. Similar to when Kelly Olynyk was here.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1564 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:07 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case


Id try to up his shot volume this year.

He averaged 12 attempts per 36. Id try and get him up to 16. Establish him so we can get better looks for our other guys. In my eyes hes a bucket 10 feet and in. He just needs to get familiar with that role. Our whole offense cant be perimeter based.


We need a legit PG for that imo
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1565 » by Flash4thewin » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:11 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case


Id try to up his shot volume this year.

He averaged 12 attempts per 36. Id try and get him up to 16. Establish him so we can get better looks for our other guys. In my eyes hes a bucket 10 feet and in. He just needs to get familiar with that role. Our whole offense cant be perimeter based.


Generally it's wise to feed big men, keep them happy so they do what we want.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1566 » by DayofMourning » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:12 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case


Id try to up his shot volume this year.

He averaged 12 attempts per 36. Id try and get him up to 16. Establish him so we can get better looks for our other guys. In my eyes hes a bucket 10 feet and in. He just needs to get familiar with that role. Our whole offense cant be perimeter based.


We need a legit PG for that imo


Thatd help him. Thatd help everyone.

I think Ware needs to employ the Shaq method where hed just beat everyone to his spot and go to work. Ware can move when he wants to. Get that ass up the floor and park it. At minimum draw some fouls.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1567 » by greg4012 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:14 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:So why did we go after a vet in Powell then to shore up the backcourt? Could’t there be a case to get one extra vet to shore up a thin front court?


Bc he was free and will help the whole environment.

I have no issue with adding a vet to replace Kevin Love as the "break glass" big. I think that's a helpful idea. But, that's not really what you're advocating for. I'm just pushing back on the idea that it's some necessity to add a big to get regular rotation minutes.

I do wonder if Goldin will have an opp for that role.

When the depth chart only has 3 legit rotational players in the front court and a two way i think you need more then just a break in case big. Goldin should be viewed as that. If we get Vucevic there’s no reason he can’t get 15-20 min off the bench in a 4 man big rotation. Similar to when Kelly Olynyk was here.



20 mpg for a Vucevic would mean 28 mpg total for Bam and Wade at Center.

As a rookie, Ware averaged over 22 mpg. And it was more like 25+ once he became a staple in the rotation.

Unless he falls off, it should absolutely be a priority to continue to have him grow in his role. If Ware is at 25 mpg, then that would leave 3-5 mpg of Bam at Center. Meaning for Bam to play 35 mpg, he would need to play at least 30 mpg exclusively at PF.

Leaving no more than 18 mpg for Jovic. That would be a disservice to his development. Jovic averaged 25 mpg last season.

I think your unnatural disdain for Haywood Highsmith is just rearing its ugly head again lol

Spo will still lean towards rotation minutes with the likes of Wiggins and Highsmith as the pseudo PF for stretches.


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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1568 » by DayofMourning » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:15 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case


Id try to up his shot volume this year.

He averaged 12 attempts per 36. Id try and get him up to 16. Establish him so we can get better looks for our other guys. In my eyes hes a bucket 10 feet and in. He just needs to get familiar with that role. Our whole offense cant be perimeter based.


Generally it's wise to feed big men, keep them happy so they do what we want.


Hes an offensive guy too. We r sorta deficient there.

Wares got real good hands too. Swallows that ball right up. He can get those entry passes and draw contact.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1569 » by Voltron914 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:15 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case


Id try to up his shot volume this year.

He averaged 12 attempts per 36. Id try and get him up to 16. Establish him so we can get better looks for our other guys. In my eyes hes a bucket 10 feet and in. He just needs to get familiar with that role. Our whole offense cant be perimeter based.



i agree. we don't have any super stars to have a scoring pecking order so plan for the easiest most efficient shots first down to the most difficult. feed it to him and maybe he can get guys into foul trouble early. Then Bam 2 way action with Norm and herro
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1570 » by DayofMourning » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:32 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Good first half for Ware yesterday, non existent 2nd half but that could be said for the whole team since they got blown out. Definitely a step in the right direction for him at least and when asked by Ira why we don’t see him play with force all the time he responded and said “you will”. Let’s hope that’s the case


Id try to up his shot volume this year.

He averaged 12 attempts per 36. Id try and get him up to 16. Establish him so we can get better looks for our other guys. In my eyes hes a bucket 10 feet and in. He just needs to get familiar with that role. Our whole offense cant be perimeter based.



i agree. we don't have any super stars to have a scoring pecking order so plan for the easiest most efficient shots first down to the most difficult. feed it to him and maybe he can get guys into foul trouble early. Then Bam 2 way action with Norm and herro


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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1571 » by Shewasfly » Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:03 pm

Jayson Tatum recruiting Lillard to the Celtics. I kind of feel like we should have nothing to worry about and Dame is a lock to come here.

Dame is Bam's best friend and is desperate to play with him, right? And the accepted narrative is that the only thing that previously prevented him from coming here is the FO not being able to make it happen in a trade, right?

So in this situation none of that comes into play. Its literally just a matter of preference for Dame. He can hand pick his next destination. No way he doesn't choose his boy Bam when the option is right there with no restrictions.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1572 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:04 pm

C Bam Adebayo C Kelel Ware
PF Niko Jovic(Point forward) PF Jagsmith
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Norman Powell SG Pelle Larrson
PG/SG Tyler Herro PG Davion Mitchell

This could be our opening primary 10 rotational lineup. Have Ware anchor the bench and allow him and JJJ the freedom to lead that unit with Mitchell at PG

C Kelel Ware
PF/C Bam Adebayo PF Niko Jovic
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Tyler Herro SG Norman Powell
PG Davion Mitchell

This is the optimal Ware and Bam lineup
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1573 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:23 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:C Bam Adebayo C Kelel Ware
PF Niko Jovic(Point forward) PF Jagsmith
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Norman Powell SG Pelle Larrson
PG/SG Tyler Herro PG Davion Mitchell

This could be our opening primary 10 rotational lineup. Have Ware anchor the bench and allow him and JJJ the freedom to lead that unit with Mitchell at PG

C Kelel Ware
PF/C Bam Adebayo PF Niko Jovic
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Tyler Herro SG Norman Powell
PG Davion Mitchell

This is the optimal Ware and Bam lineup


My hope would be that we’re not demoting the guy we just made untouchable in any talks for KD.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1574 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:33 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:C Bam Adebayo C Kelel Ware
PF Niko Jovic(Point forward) PF Jagsmith
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Norman Powell SG Pelle Larrson
PG/SG Tyler Herro PG Davion Mitchell

This could be our opening primary 10 rotational lineup. Have Ware anchor the bench and allow him and JJJ the freedom to lead that unit with Mitchell at PG

C Kelel Ware
PF/C Bam Adebayo PF Niko Jovic
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Tyler Herro SG Norman Powell
PG Davion Mitchell

This is the optimal Ware and Bam lineup


My hope would be that we’re not demoting the guy we just made untouchable in any talks for KD.

If Ware and Bam is the staring front court than i advocate Mitchell starting and Powell staggering Herro and Mitchell as a 6th man with Niko as the point forward off the bench.
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Post#1575 » by Daffy » Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:47 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:C Bam Adebayo C Kelel Ware
PF Niko Jovic(Point forward) PF Jagsmith
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Norman Powell SG Pelle Larrson
PG/SG Tyler Herro PG Davion Mitchell

This could be our opening primary 10 rotational lineup. Have Ware anchor the bench and allow him and JJJ the freedom to lead that unit with Mitchell at PG

C Kelel Ware
PF/C Bam Adebayo PF Niko Jovic
SF Andrew Wiggins SF Jaime Jaquez Jr
SG Tyler Herro SG Norman Powell
PG Davion Mitchell

This is the optimal Ware and Bam lineup


My hope would be that we’re not demoting the guy we just made untouchable in any talks for KD.

If Ware and Bam is the staring front court than i advocate Mitchell starting and Powell staggering Herro and Mitchell as a 6th man with Niko as the point forward off the bench.


My only issue with bringing Powell of the bench is that is Herro or Bam is cold early it could mean some early deficits to dig out of. Wiggins finding himself offensively again could change that line of thinking though.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1576 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:12 pm

Read on Twitter


Our GOAT is sitting at 23, disagree with some ahead of him.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1577 » by wadenation305 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:17 pm

Tbh I'd run Niko at the 3

Mitchell
Herro
Jovic
Bam
Ware

Put the ball in Niko's hands and let him distribute
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1578 » by wadenation305 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:20 pm

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Our GOAT is sitting at 23, disagree with some ahead of him.



KG ahead of Wade is crazy
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Post#1579 » by wadenation305 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:23 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1580 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:26 pm

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Our GOAT is sitting at 23, disagree with some ahead of him.



KG ahead of Wade is crazy


Yea I don’t really understand KG, Dirk, and maybe I’m too young but David Robinson being ahead of him. I also think Wade leaves a lot on the table because of his injuries and bad knees.

KG never won it all as THE guy and only has 1 ring. Dirk only has 1 ring (albeit a great one) and the 1 MVP he won he literally only won because Wade dislocated his shoulder. Wade was leading the race averaging 30-5-8-2-1 on 60TS% through the first 50 games of the season that season. Robinson seems to have a high peak like Wade, not super crazy longevity like Wade, and only 2 championships to Wades 3.
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