Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central 4.0 Team Byke Ollinky Added

Chalm Down · Post #161 » by **Chalm Down** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:20 am

HeatWillRise wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
IggieCC wrote:such a butthurt anime fan eh goodboy? lol

Beno gone? Check. McSob gone? Check. What a day

Spoiler:

Im dead inside tbh

Me too

Spurs got gay and this team got Oinkman.

Make some room.

Chalm Down · Post #162 » by **Chalm Down** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:21 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
Chalm Down wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:OMG, watta f is that

Wonder if Hardaway did that dance again tonight

good avi, Chalms. Saint Sob was crucified for our sins

thanks Mos, it's the least I could do to honor him :cry:

Post #163 » by **QUIZ** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:26 am

Watch on YouTube

Chalm Down · Post #164 » by **Chalm Down** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:27 am

Mos_Heat wrote:What about minutes distribution, brehs? Team looks overstacked, tbh

let's see

Dragic (33)/ TJ (24)
Waiters (30)/ Richardson (24)
Winslow (33)
Olynyk (20)/ JJ (28)
Whiteside (33)/ Bam (15)

Ellington (?), McGruder, Babbs filling in for injury?

Post #165 » by **IggieCC** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 8:28 am

jereseja · Post #166 » by **jereseja** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:00 am

cmon iggie, allmost die here drinking coffe and cookies when i saw this

jereseja · Post #167 » by **jereseja** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:03 am

Obvioous Riley is watching alot of Pistons and his NYK games on black and white TV and thinking if u cant beat them, kill them.
Its gona be so fun season i can wait.Maybe i rent something for couple months in Miami just to see this.

contract · Post #168 » by **contract** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:17 am

And here I thought that one of the Celtics problems was a giant hole in the middle.

I'm starting to think that Pat Riley just doesn't handle rejection well.

contract · Post #169 » by **contract** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:30 am

We just gave $12.5 million a year to a guy who spent the past 2 years splitting time with Jared Sullinger, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, David Lee, and Tyler Zeller.

We have a bench guy making 8 figures a year, and among the top 100 paid players in the NBA.

We landed our whale!

Mos_Heat · Post #170 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:40 am

contract wrote:We just gave $12.5 million a year to a guy who spent the past 2 years splitting time with Jared Sullinger, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, David Lee, and Tyler Zeller.

We have a bench guy making 8 figures a year, and among the top 100 paid players in the NBA.

We landed our whale!

JJ?

contract · Post #171 » by **contract** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 9:57 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
contract wrote:We just gave $12.5 million a year to a guy who spent the past 2 years splitting time with Jared Sullinger, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, David Lee, and Tyler Zeller.

We have a bench guy making 8 figures a year, and among the top 100 paid players in the NBA.

We landed our whale!

JJ?

Or Olynyk. Either way, we're spending like a drunk sailor. If reports are correct, we've got half the salary cap ... $50 million ... tied up in Whiteside/JJ/Olynyk ... and not an all star appearance between them.

And you get a 4 year contract, and you get a 4 year contract, and you get a 4 year contract!

This is nuts!

dean456 · Post #172 » by **dean456** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:31 am

contract wrote:We just gave $12.5 million a year to a guy who spent the past 2 years splitting time with Jared Sullinger, Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, David Lee, and Tyler Zeller.

We have a bench guy making 8 figures a year, and among the top 100 paid players in the NBA.

We landed our whale!

He's no whale, but for arguments sake it's only 11% of our salary cap... It's hardly the worst deal in the NBA, the guys 26 been a consistent role player through his first 4 years averaging 9.5ppg in 20.7mins on 7.5 shots per game. Also per 36mins he's averaging 15.9ppg/8.4rpg/3.5apg which isn't too bad for a C like Olynyk.

For what talent we already have we don't need much output from Olynyk. I also think he'll be in better shape with Miami which could improve some of his short comings and overall play. But a 3pt shooting (36.8% career average) big guy we can slot at the Center position in short spurts to open up the floor for guys like Dragic/Waiters/TJ/JJ/Winslow's driving to the hoop. I also think he's an upgrade over Babbit at the PF spot if need be.

gom · Post #173 » by **gom** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 10:53 am

HeatNation88 wrote:I've been right so far lately.., keeping Dion and JJ (soon Ellington as well), I called that McRob trade will happen very soon and that Miami will find a good backup center (Kelly Olynk) in a bargain which is.. 13 mill is the new 5-7 mil worth of the new cap yall... next move has to do with ofc keeping UD which is a given but more of creating a market for TJ to open future cap... Miami used their cap wisely

There is no future cap. Even without TJ you will have to trade other players to get under the cap. Consider we are going to be over the cap by more than TJ's salary this season and that our players are on long-term contracts (Whiteside/Dragic/James Johnson/Olynyk/Waiters/etc) How will you get below cap enough to sign another player? It isn't going up by 15M a year anymore.

Assuming we can convince Richardson to take the extension. Also, we need to deal with White and Hammon's early bird situation:

We will probably have to make a deal with Winslow. Let's hope we will have to pay him a lot because he has a great season.

Now let's go one step further.

Right now the salary cap is expected to rise all the way to $102M next season. Let's say we can dump TJ's contract without taking on any money. Before adding slots for required roster positions, we would have just $1,181,264 to hunt whales. Once you add the required amounts (minimum 0-year salaries), we are actually over the cap by $3M.

Next season, however, we will have a full non-taxpayer MLE of almost $9M. That's something, right?

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #174 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:40 am

The 2020 season will be interesting. This is who we'll have under contract (age):

Whiteside (30) $27.1
Dragic (33) $19.2
TJ (26) $19.6
JJ (32) $15.3
Dion (27) $13.3
Olynyk (28) $12.8
Bam (21) $3.5
*Assume Winslow (23) will be retained as a RFA

It'll be the core's 4th season together and most of these guys will be in their primes. There's something to be said for continuity and certainty. In this climate of constant player movement and roster upheaval we have a core intact and locked up that has nothing to focus on but winning as a team. Where will today's superteams be in 2020? Where will Boston be (33yo Horford and 29yo Hayward BY THEMSELVES will be accounting for $62.8M)? And just imagine if Winslow and Bam develop into something...

Mos_Heat · Post #175 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:41 am

I wouldn't call 50/4 for Olynyk a bargain. It's a little overpay, tbh.

Mos_Heat · Post #176 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:50 am

RonySeikalyFTW wrote:The 2020 season will be interesting. This is who we'll have under contract (age):

Whiteside (30)
Dragic (33)
TJ (26)
JJ (32)
Dion (27)
Olynyk (28)
Bam (21)
*Assume Winslow (23) will be retained as a RFA

It'll be the core's 4th season together and most of these guys will be in their primes. There's something to be said for continuity and certainty. In this climate of constant player movement and roster upheaval we have a core intact and locked up that has nothing to focus on but winning as a team. Where will today's superteams be in 2020? Where will Boston be? And just imagine if Winslow and Bam develop into something...

Are you referring to 19/20 season or 20/21?

CanesHeatFins · Post #177 » by **CanesHeatFins** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:52 am

A little shocked that virtually every starting lineup projection here still has Winslow starting, despite the fact that our chemistry was crap and only Brooklyn was worst than us the last time we forced him into a starting role. For his sake and the team's sake, I pray that we actually make him earn his minutes for a change....1st 2 seasons were an excuse-a-thon for him and I predict the same thing is gonna happen this yr..."hasn't shot the ball for a year"..."just coming off a serious injury"...yada yada yada.

Starting.........2nd unit
C Hassan.....Bam/Olynyk
PF Olynyk......J.J./Bam
SF J.J. ..........Winslow
SG Dion........JRich
PG Dragic......TJ

BenoUdrihFTL · Post #178 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:53 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
RonySeikalyFTW wrote:The 2020 season will be interesting. This is who we'll have under contract (age):

Whiteside (30)
Dragic (33)
TJ (26)
JJ (32)
Dion (27)
Olynyk (28)
Bam (21)
*Assume Winslow (23) will be retained as a RFA

It'll be the core's 4th season together and most of these guys will be in their primes. There's something to be said for continuity and certainty. In this climate of constant player movement and roster upheaval we have a core intact and locked up that has nothing to focus on but winning as a team. Where will today's superteams be in 2020? Where will Boston be? And just imagine if Winslow and Bam develop into something...

Are you referring to 19/20 season or 20/21?

'19-20

In '20-21 the only guys under contract are JJ, Dion, Olynyk, Bam, *Winslow

gom · Post #179 » by **gom** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 11:55 am

CanesHeatFins wrote:A little shocked that virtually every starting lineup projection here still has Winslow starting, despite the fact that our chemistry was crap and only Brooklyn was worst than us the last time we forced him into a starting role. For his sake and the team's sake, I pray that we actually make him earn his minutes for a change....1st 2 seasons were an excuse-a-thon for him and I predict the same thing is gonna happen this yr..."hasn't shot the ball for a year"..."just coming off a serious injury"...yada yada yada.

Starting.........2nd unit
C Hassan.....Bam/Olynyk
PF Olynyk......J.J./Bam
SF J.J. ..........Winslow
SG Dion........JRich
PG Dragic......TJ

Um... how did McGruder lose the SF position in your lineup? He was very effective:

My starters: Dragic/Dion/McGruder/James Johnson/Hassan
Bench: Tyler/Richardson/Winslow/Bam/Olynyk/White/Haslem

Babbitt? Ellington?

Hammons (G-League development)

Mos_Heat · Post #180 » by **Mos_Heat** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:01 pm

RonySeikalyFTW wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
RonySeikalyFTW wrote:The 2020 season will be interesting. This is who we'll have under contract (age):

Whiteside (30)
Dragic (33)
TJ (26)
JJ (32)
Dion (27)
Olynyk (28)
Bam (21)
*Assume Winslow (23) will be retained as a RFA

It'll be the core's 4th season together and most of these guys will be in their primes. There's something to be said for continuity and certainty. In this climate of constant player movement and roster upheaval we have a core intact and locked up that has nothing to focus on but winning as a team. Where will today's superteams be in 2020? Where will Boston be? And just imagine if Winslow and Bam develop into something...

Are you referring to 19/20 season or 20/21?

'19-20

In '20-21 the only guys under contract are JJ, Dion, Olynyk, Bam, *Winslow

got ya