2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Think that's an unfair question. Nunn was a rookie of the year candidate. Nunn was shooting lights out until defenders figured him out. Doubt Nesmith would be available if that type of expectation was put on him. Especially you are looking at no summer league.

But I like what I see in his shooting game and shooting fundamentals. Scouting reports say he is a hellava definder. Scouting reports say he not much of a ball handler but in some of the highlights I see potential. I like what I see thou.

It will be interesting to see the direction the Heat go in the draft. I do believe the Heat will dangle Olynyk as trade bait during the draft and summer.

Something doesn't sit right with me on Jalen Smith. He moves like a 7 footer but is barely 6'10. Doesn't look very physical to compensate the lack of height. But at our draft slot, beggars can't be choosers.

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I like Nunn. He started out hot, but how long did that really last? Maybe 10 games. From what I saw, he was getting the same shots as he always did, he was just missing them. He's a bit streaky. His bad streaky can last several games too. Thing is, if he wasn't hitting shots, what else was he contributing? He became a turnstile on defense very quickly.

Per bkref, his O Rating, his calling card contribution was a 106, and his defensive rating was 113. He was a negative in both offensive and defensive RPM.

Now, I'm not saying the kid can't improve, but I think a 6'0" streaky scorer who contributes minimally in about every other on court category is someone we can think about upgrading.

Just looking at the draft for upgrades for our current roster. I feel like our interior deficit looms the largest, as Bam needs a PJ Brown type to help him like Zo had. If we can't get a guy who can contribute and save Bam some defensive effort, then I'd like to see a guy who's more consistent battle Nunn for minutes.

Nunn's a rookie and he's already better than most SGs in the NBA...

[DayofMourning]

Siakam/Jokic, but I'm not impartial to a Rich if we can find one. Which we can, one of similar value comes through every yr

How do you feel about Aleksej Poku? If we go international, which seems unlikely, then he's a guy I'd be interested in. Looks like he contributes at a high level in several categories. He's a project, but I like the versatility. Don't know about his personality or mental makeup, which is very important to me personally.

I like a lot of guys projected in the 20ish range. I like several guys projected to go second round as well. I think we should attempt to get two guys out of this class, as Dragic might be gone, and DJJ as well. As I mentioned, Nunn needs some competition for his spot as well.

Haven't looked into him, but will do my googles. Criminal that we might get next to nothing for DJJ/Dragic/Winslow, gotta hope we bank off of capspace, assets, and our remaining firsts these next few yrs

I'll always be partial to our guys. The ones we've invested in. I loved the Winslow pick about as much as I've loved any Heat pick. However, my two most celebratory draft picks were Beasley and Winslow......yeah. We got worse return for Beasley tbh...

Riley has done a bang up job in fixing the mistakes he made. Really, really impressive. I know our focus will be on acquiring a star. Heck, look at the players we've got now. Perfect for a star to come in and activate HEAT mode. White hot baby.

Remember when we had the worst situation of any team in the league. Mediocrity multiplied? What a turn around. Give me a good pick. Make some economic hardship moves. Wine and dine a star. We've got velocity right now.

[Bishop45]

How do you feel about Aleksej Poku? If we go international, which seems unlikely, then he's a guy I'd be interested in. Looks like he contributes at a high level in several categories. He's a project, but I like the versatility. Don't know about his personality or mental makeup, which is very important to me personally.

I like a lot of guys projected in the 20ish range. I like several guys projected to go second round as well. I think we should attempt to get two guys out of this class, as Dragic might be gone, and DJJ as well. As I mentioned, Nunn needs some competition for his spot as well.

Haven't looked into him, but will do my googles. Criminal that we might get next to nothing for DJJ/Dragic/Winslow, gotta hope we bank off of capspace, assets, and our remaining firsts these next few yrs

I'll always be partial to our guys. The ones we've invested in. I loved the Winslow pick about as much as I've loved any Heat pick. However, my two most celebratory draft picks were Beasley and Winslow......yeah. We got worse return for Beasley tbh...

Riley has done a bang up job in fixing the mistakes he made. Really, really impressive. I know our focus will be on acquiring a star. Heck, look at the players we've got now. Perfect for a star to come in and activate HEAT mode. White hot baby.

Remember when we had the worst situation of any team in the league. Mediocrity multiplied? What a turn around. Give me a good pick. Make some economic hardship moves. Wine and dine a star. We've got velocity right now.

Yea, not all is lost, I never believed that we were in the 'worst situation in the league,' that was always a media narrative. I don't think that we're so far from where we were either, but everything's fluid in the league- no one's stuck where they are(if they aren't incompetent) And we're fine now, just need a few more miracles to get where we want to, which is going to require a lot of luck and asset optimization

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Who do people think we're drafting and who do people want? Think we try to fill out the frontcourt a little more.

I'm starting to come around on the thought of us drafting Nnaji. We play at him center next to Bam and hope that the former becomes a Meyers Leonard replacement.

[twix2500]

Who do people think we're drafting and who do people want? Think we try to fill out the frontcourt a little more.

I'm starting to come around on the thought of us drafting Nnaji. We play at him center next to Bam and hope that the former becomes a Meyers Leonard replacement.

I haven't looked into the draft enough and I like to see players under pressure during the tournament. I am very unsure where players will be available. At the slot we are drafting I do not expect them to be a starter or even on rotational player next season (unless we draft a senior or junior). So I wouldn't be thinking of drafting for position of need

[DayofMourning]

Who do people think we're drafting and who do people want? Think we try to fill out the frontcourt a little more.

I'm starting to come around on the thought of us drafting Nnaji. We play at him center next to Bam and hope that the former becomes a Meyers Leonard replacement.

Lot of front court options who may be available in our range this year. Honestly would be happy with around 8 guys.

[Bishop45]

Not very impressed with Aleksej Dom, but I'd give him a chance.

Would prefer a project with better tools, e.g. Josh Green but I haven't given this draft a very good look yet- sure there's some other good names out there

About 3 mocks have us taking Robert Woodward II, what do u think about him?

[puppa bear]

Who do people think we're drafting and who do people want? Think we try to fill out the frontcourt a little more.

I'm starting to come around on the thought of us drafting Nnaji. We play at him center next to Bam and hope that the former becomes a Meyers Leonard replacement.

Lot of front court options who may be available in our range this year. Honestly would be happy with around 8 guys.

100% agree DoM. I think there will be about 6 PF or Cs that would fit nicely next to Bam who will be available in our range. Essentially, there’s a bunch of role playing bigs who will fit well next to Giannis & Bam type PFs, heck a couple might even become the next Bam or even Giannis if they land in the right spot for them.

There will also be a couple of guards that might be worth nabbing early in the 2nd to replace Dragic in the long run.

I think KZ gets some serious burn next year after spending the season in the G-League working on what Spo wants him to - ala Robinson last year. I think we need to add 2 rooks again this off-season - one to get immediate burn and another to develop ourselves.

[abark]

Does anyone else think Paul Reed is underrated in this draft? I know he is a Junior, but he was also a very late bloomer. He was only a 6'5" three star recruit during the summer before his senior year. I'm usually not a fan of drafting older players, but he didn't even grow to his full height of 6'9 until he was already in college. It takes a while to grow into your body. I grew 6 inches during that same stretch, so I know what it's like.

But last year at Depaul he put up 15, 11, 2, 1.6, and 2.6. And it wasn't like he was doing this against cupcake opponents. DePaul actually had a stronger SOS than Kentucky last year. And he led them to their first winning record since 2006. He is a very good defender and efficient scorer.

I do want a guy that can hit outside shots playing next to Bam, but Reed does have a decent jump shot. His three point shot is definitely not there, but he did shoot 33% from 3 on limited attempts through his career. The more promising number was that he shot over 75% from the line the last 2 years.

I think the thing that intrigues me most about him is his obvious growth each year, which is what I would expect from a late bloomer. I honestly don't understand why he is always mocked in the 20's which is where we will be. He was often not in the first round of mocks until pretty late in the year.

I don't watch as much college ball as I used to nor have I done as much research as I typically do on prospects this year. But is anyone with me that this guy seems like an easy top 20 talent? Just want some opinions.

[twix2500]

Watch on YouTube

Wow! What's the word on this guy? This is the first and only video I seen of him. His athleticism pops out real fast. Very Westbrook-Babosa like

[DayofMourning]

Not very impressed with Aleksej Dom, but I'd give him a chance.

Would prefer a project with better tools, e.g. Josh Green but I haven't given this draft a very good look yet- sure there's some other good names out there

About 3 mocks have us taking Robert Woodward II, what do u think about him?

Let him fill out a bit and imagine what that all around game at 7 foot could do. Hes a guard tbh.

RW2? Did you just make that up, lol.

[DayofMourning]

Who do people think we're drafting and who do people want? Think we try to fill out the frontcourt a little more.

I'm starting to come around on the thought of us drafting Nnaji. We play at him center next to Bam and hope that the former becomes a Meyers Leonard replacement.

Lot of front court options who may be available in our range this year. Honestly would be happy with around 8 guys.

100% agree DoM. I think there will be about 6 PF or Cs that would fit nicely next to Bam who will be available in our range. Essentially, there’s a bunch of role playing bigs who will fit well next to Giannis & Bam type PFs, heck a couple might even become the next Bam or even Giannis if they land in the right spot for them.

There will also be a couple of guards that might be worth nabbing early in the 2nd to replace Dragic in the long run.

I think KZ gets some serious burn next year after spending the season in the G-League working on what Spo wants him to - ala Robinson last year. I think we need to add 2 rooks again this off-season - one to get immediate burn and another to develop ourselves.

We are going to get a good player this draft. I'd hate to have a top ten pick this year. Can't really say that most years. Bizarre draft. We could really capitalize on this enigma.

Guys I like:

Aleksej
I Stewart
Nnaji
Jalen Smith
Reed
Nesmith
Carey
Perry

[DayofMourning]

Does anyone else think Paul Reed is underrated in this draft? I know he is a Junior, but he was also a very late bloomer. He was only a 6'5" three star recruit during the summer before his senior year. I'm usually not a fan of drafting older players, but he didn't even grow to his full height of 6'9 until he was already in college. It takes a while to grow into your body. I grew 6 inches during that same stretch, so I know what it's like.

But last year at Depaul he put up 15, 11, 2, 1.6, and 2.6. And it wasn't like he was doing this against cupcake opponents. DePaul actually had a stronger SOS than Kentucky last year. And he led them to their first winning record since 2006. He is a very good defender and efficient scorer.

I do want a guy that can hit outside shots playing next to Bam, but Reed does have a decent jump shot. His three point shot is definitely not there, but he did shoot 33% from 3 on limited attempts through his career. The more promising number was that he shot over 75% from the line the last 2 years.

I think the thing that intrigues me most about him is his obvious growth each year, which is what I would expect from a late bloomer. I honestly don't understand why he is always mocked in the 20's which is where we will be. He was often not in the first round of mocks until pretty late in the year.

I don't watch as much college ball as I used to nor have I done as much research as I typically do on prospects this year. But is anyone with me that this guy seems like an easy top 20 talent? Just want some opinions.

Very mechanical on offense from what I've seen.

On defense, he's guard like. Fast twitch. I'd take a few guys over him, but I'd be happy with him for sure.

Feel like I've seen him right outside the lottery in some mocks.

[Bishop45]

Not very impressed with Aleksej Dom, but I'd give him a chance.

Would prefer a project with better tools, e.g. Josh Green but I haven't given this draft a very good look yet- sure there's some other good names out there

About 3 mocks have us taking Robert Woodward II, what do u think about him?

Let him fill out a bit and imagine what that all around game at 7 foot could do. Hes a guard tbh.

RW2? Did you just make that up, lol.

Given that I just watched a few tiny sample sizes of him, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Lite on my anime/star wars references so I have no clue what RW2 means, but apologies to the young man, I believe his last name is Woodard.

[DayofMourning]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward

Don't know if we are interested in investigative journalists.

Too broad a search b45.

[Bishop45]

Lot of front court options who may be available in our range this year. Honestly would be happy with around 8 guys.

100% agree DoM. I think there will be about 6 PF or Cs that would fit nicely next to Bam who will be available in our range. Essentially, there’s a bunch of role playing bigs who will fit well next to Giannis & Bam type PFs, heck a couple might even become the next Bam or even Giannis if they land in the right spot for them.

There will also be a couple of guards that might be worth nabbing early in the 2nd to replace Dragic in the long run.

I think KZ gets some serious burn next year after spending the season in the G-League working on what Spo wants him to - ala Robinson last year. I think we need to add 2 rooks again this off-season - one to get immediate burn and another to develop ourselves.

We are going to get a good player this draft. I'd hate to have a top ten pick this year. Can't really say that most years. Bizarre draft. We could really capitalize on this enigma.

Guys I like:

Aleksej
I Stewart
Nnaji
Jalen Smith
Reed
Nesmith
Carey
Perry

Meant to ask u what u thought about Carey, I may be too anti big man to judge him impartially

[abark]

Does anyone else think Paul Reed is underrated in this draft? I know he is a Junior, but he was also a very late bloomer. He was only a 6'5" three star recruit during the summer before his senior year. I'm usually not a fan of drafting older players, but he didn't even grow to his full height of 6'9 until he was already in college. It takes a while to grow into your body. I grew 6 inches during that same stretch, so I know what it's like.

But last year at Depaul he put up 15, 11, 2, 1.6, and 2.6. And it wasn't like he was doing this against cupcake opponents. DePaul actually had a stronger SOS than Kentucky last year. And he led them to their first winning record since 2006. He is a very good defender and efficient scorer.

I do want a guy that can hit outside shots playing next to Bam, but Reed does have a decent jump shot. His three point shot is definitely not there, but he did shoot 33% from 3 on limited attempts through his career. The more promising number was that he shot over 75% from the line the last 2 years.

I think the thing that intrigues me most about him is his obvious growth each year, which is what I would expect from a late bloomer. I honestly don't understand why he is always mocked in the 20's which is where we will be. He was often not in the first round of mocks until pretty late in the year.

I don't watch as much college ball as I used to nor have I done as much research as I typically do on prospects this year. But is anyone with me that this guy seems like an easy top 20 talent? Just want some opinions.

Very mechanical on offense from what I've seen.

On defense, he's guard like. Fast twitch. I'd take a few guys over him, but I'd be happy with him for sure.

Feel like I've seen him right outside the lottery in some mocks.

I agree with that analysis.

NBAdraft.net has him at 37
Their user consensus has him 28
Tankathon has him 22
Bleacher Report has him as a 2nd rounder
CBSsports has him as a 2nd rounder
NBCsports has him at 33
YahooSports has him at 17
USAToday has him 21
Sports Illustrated has him 48
NBAdraftroom has him 31
MyNBADraft has him 35
Draftsite.com has him 19
SBNation has him 26

I miss Draftexpress bc I dont know how reliable most of these are. That's why I use quantity if I can't have quality. But you can see only two sources had him as a top 20 pick, while 7 had him as a 2nd rounder. I'm sure there's more, but I got tired. If you know of any solid mock draft sites, I'd be interested.

He is definitely mechanical on offense and his jumper is a little unusual, but effective. Still, he is a very good defender and he definitely has the agility to be a big that can guard the perimeter.

And he's still currently 20, so he's not that old. He's about 6 months older than Tyler Herro. Deandre Hunter was 6 months older when he went #4 as a Junior* (RS sophomore).

Obviously if a better prospect drops to us I always believe to go with best player available. But based on the rankings I've seen I believe Reed might be the most underrated player in the draft.

[DayofMourning]

100% agree DoM. I think there will be about 6 PF or Cs that would fit nicely next to Bam who will be available in our range. Essentially, there’s a bunch of role playing bigs who will fit well next to Giannis & Bam type PFs, heck a couple might even become the next Bam or even Giannis if they land in the right spot for them.

There will also be a couple of guards that might be worth nabbing early in the 2nd to replace Dragic in the long run.

I think KZ gets some serious burn next year after spending the season in the G-League working on what Spo wants him to - ala Robinson last year. I think we need to add 2 rooks again this off-season - one to get immediate burn and another to develop ourselves.

We are going to get a good player this draft. I'd hate to have a top ten pick this year. Can't really say that most years. Bizarre draft. We could really capitalize on this enigma.

Guys I like:

Aleksej
I Stewart
Nnaji
Jalen Smith
Reed
Nesmith
Carey
Perry

Meant to ask u what u thought about Carey, I may be too anti big man to judge him impartially

I feel like he's going to be a very solid rotation guy. Dependable. Not going to blow you away, but he's going to contribute, and often. He's a very solid low post player. He's not out there shooting corner threes, but I've never felt that what bball is all about. It's about taking advantage of mismatches. We've got plenty of shooters. I wouldn't mind another consistent big who can grab boards, put the ball in the bucket efficiently, and create a bit of a concern for offensive players who want an easy layup.

Also am interested in Oturu, Sylla, and Green. Mannion to a lesser degree.

[DayofMourning]

Does anyone else think Paul Reed is underrated in this draft? I know he is a Junior, but he was also a very late bloomer. He was only a 6'5" three star recruit during the summer before his senior year. I'm usually not a fan of drafting older players, but he didn't even grow to his full height of 6'9 until he was already in college. It takes a while to grow into your body. I grew 6 inches during that same stretch, so I know what it's like.

But last year at Depaul he put up 15, 11, 2, 1.6, and 2.6. And it wasn't like he was doing this against cupcake opponents. DePaul actually had a stronger SOS than Kentucky last year. And he led them to their first winning record since 2006. He is a very good defender and efficient scorer.

I do want a guy that can hit outside shots playing next to Bam, but Reed does have a decent jump shot. His three point shot is definitely not there, but he did shoot 33% from 3 on limited attempts through his career. The more promising number was that he shot over 75% from the line the last 2 years.

I think the thing that intrigues me most about him is his obvious growth each year, which is what I would expect from a late bloomer. I honestly don't understand why he is always mocked in the 20's which is where we will be. He was often not in the first round of mocks until pretty late in the year.

I don't watch as much college ball as I used to nor have I done as much research as I typically do on prospects this year. But is anyone with me that this guy seems like an easy top 20 talent? Just want some opinions.

Very mechanical on offense from what I've seen.

On defense, he's guard like. Fast twitch. I'd take a few guys over him, but I'd be happy with him for sure.

Feel like I've seen him right outside the lottery in some mocks.

I agree with that analysis.

NBAdraft.net has him at 37
Their user consensus has him 28
Tankathon has him 22
Bleacher Report has him as a 2nd rounder
CBSsports has him as a 2nd rounder
NBCsports has him at 33
YahooSports has him at 17
USAToday has him 21
Sports Illustrated has him 48
NBAdraftroom has him 31
MyNBADraft has him 35
Draftsite.com has him 19
SBNation has him 26

I miss Draftexpress bc I dont know how reliable most of these are. That's why I use quantity if I can't have quality. But you can see only two sources had him as a top 20 pick, while 7 had him as a 2nd rounder. I'm sure there's more, but I got tired. If you know of any solid mock draft sites, I'd be interested.

He is definitely mechanical on offense and his jumper is a little unusual, but effective. Still, he is a very good defender and he definitely has the agility to be a big that can guard the perimeter.

And he's still currently 20, so he's not that old. He's about 6 months older than Tyler Herro. Deandre Hunter was 6 months older when he went #4 as a Junior* (RS sophomore).

Obviously if a better prospect drops to us I always believe to go with best player available. But based on the rankings I've seen I believe Reed might be the most underrated player in the draft.

The whole NBA draft process is hurt by DX going to ESPN. It didn't make anything better. You can't just subscribe to that BS network and get the clean cut, straight to the point analysis you used to get with DX. It's sad.

I like nbadraftroom a fair amount. Wish they'd step up their game visually and professionalize their site. It's meager right now, but for a bare bones site, it's not bad at all.

CBS is a site I visit every once in a while, but they are all over the place.

Tankathon could add a bit more content, and they'd be a clear number one.

NBAdraft.net underachieves. Historically poor performance, despite their consistent prospect articles.

Yahoo had Ball as a generational prospect. They can go to hell.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

With a pick in the mid-20s and a lack of elite defenders, the Heat should be leaning towards drafting a defensive-minded player. Paul Reed and Tyler Bey are two players that come to mind.