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Post#161 » by 3ballbomber » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:58 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Would think that a potential Harden move would get more fanfare. Maybe its just me. Nets don't evoke any emotion from me. It's like, "Whatever..."

It's essentially OKC 2.0 just exchange Westbrook w/ Irving, who is a similar ball dominant pg anyway. I fear Nets less w/ Harden knowing a looming implosion is on the horizon.
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Post#162 » by JLop » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:01 pm

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wadenation305 wrote:Well I give up on Beal obviously he's happy wining 33-35 games a season and either missing the play off of getting bounced out first round. Not going to worry about him. Bring in Ibaka, Millsap and Boogie and call it a day. If Hayward is working on a trade or sign and trade it's not going to be for us, Danny Ainge would never help us, he'd ask for like 20 first round picks from us just cause it's the Heat.


Maybe the Celtics and Hayward are working on a buyout that makes a lot of sense. Hayward wants to get out of Boston and could keep $10 million by leaving the rest of his contract. Then, he can sign a new contract with Miami along the lines of four-years, $90 million.


Let's see, the second question would be if Hayward would even move the needle for us, from what I saw he wasn't the same player after he came back from that tragic injury. But at this point if we can have em for the right price we can use em in a trade to get something better down the line. People like fancy names.


Do you like this team while keeping the payroll flexible for 2021?

Edrice Adebayo
Danilo Gallinari
Gordon Hayward
Jimmy Butler
Tyler Herro

Serge Ibaka
Jae Crowder
Duncan Robinson
Goran Dragic
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Post#163 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:02 pm

Beenie wrote:I'm starting to reconsider Love as a fitting possibility. I called it a while back that Mia might explore a trade for him this season.

Maybe an Olynyk, DJJ (SnT) and a FFR are enough to get it done. Cavs rumored to have an interest in DJJ.

If Giannis were to sign the supermax and the team has to pivot I’d be open to him. I think he’s a better fit than Aldrige and obviously a much better rebounder than Gallinari. He’s got a few extra years on his contract though and iffy health.
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Post#164 » by 3ballbomber » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:04 pm

Enso wrote:Beal has lost his mind if he wants to stay there

I respect him sticking it out w/ Wash & i get it (or perhaps money has been a big part of his decisions). But in todays league it's been all about stacking your team to compete. He needs to adjust to that mindset (as horrible as it is). It's the Lebron blueprint which may end up dying out once he retires & competitiveness becomes a thing again...but in the mean time jump on the bandwagon. KD did & beat Lebron w/ a taste of his own medicine in Golden State.

Either way i'm over Beal continuing to say no. Doesn't hurt to try but we move on. If he can't see that he'll nvr ever win a title in Wash then let him end his career there.
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Post#165 » by Beenie » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:06 pm

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Deadline being extended seemingly suggests that a trade is in the works.


Who could it be ?


We shall see.

Pacers have been consistently rumored as a trade partner.

It's also been rumored that Boston has an interest in moving up into the top 5 in the draft. Some of those teams are thirsty for a vet.

Merely guesswork, but I could see both Minnesota and Golden State pulling the trigger.
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Post#166 » by 3ballbomber » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:14 pm

JLop wrote:Do you like this team while keeping the payroll flexible for 2021?

Edrice Adebayo
Danilo Gallinari
Gordon Hayward
Jimmy Butler
Tyler Herro

Serge Ibaka
Jae Crowder
Duncan Robinson
Goran Dragic


This line up cld beat Bucks w/ Jrue & Bogdan.
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Post#167 » by insfo » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:17 pm

I'm not getting the Hayward interest. Yeah, years ago before he left us at the altar for Boston, sure. But the 4 years 90 mil FA offer being talked about here seems like sheer madness. Hope he picks up his player option and handicaps the Celtics for as long as he can :)
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Post#168 » by Seabass777 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:27 pm

So listening in on Ethan Skolnick's radio podcast, he mentioned how all that talk about Victor Oladipo talking to Heat players about wanting to come play for them while in the bubble was true, however, apparently that turned off the Heat (go figure lol), stating that's just something a player shouldn't do.


The good outcome from that is, his value will be cheap in terms of getting him in a trade, so take that for what its worth.
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Post#169 » by AirP. » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:32 pm

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DayofMourning wrote:Would think that a potential Harden move would get more fanfare. Maybe its just me. Nets don't evoke any emotion from me. It's like, "Whatever..."

It's essentially OKC 2.0 just exchange Westbrook w/ Irving, who is a similar ball dominant pg anyway. I fear Nets less w/ Harden knowing a looming implosion is on the horizon.

Not essentially OKC 2.0 because they're missing a huge defensive piece in Ibaka back when he was IBlocka blocking 4.8 shots per36, he was basically the reason OKC decided to part with Harden.
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Post#170 » by AirP. » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:36 pm

Seabass777 wrote:So listening in on Ethan Skolnick's radio podcast, he mentioned how all that talk about Victor Oladipo talking to Heat players about wanting to come play for them while in the bubble was true, however, apparently that turned off the Heat (go figure lol), stating that's just something a player shouldn't do.


The good outcome from that is, his value will be cheap in terms of getting him in a trade, so take that for what its worth.

I doubt he'll be cheap, look at the price it took for Jrue. Personally I'm fine with moving whatever it takes outside of Butler, Bam, and Herro to aquire Oladipo. Miami may have to pay Robinson next year and there will be a bunch of teams that will throw more money at him then Miami will want to spend for him, might as well flip him for a good long term 2 way player.
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Post#171 » by Seabass777 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:40 pm

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Seabass777 wrote:So listening in on Ethan Skolnick's radio podcast, he mentioned how all that talk about Victor Oladipo talking to Heat players about wanting to come play for them while in the bubble was true, however, apparently that turned off the Heat (go figure lol), stating that's just something a player shouldn't do.


The good outcome from that is, his value will be cheap in terms of getting him in a trade, so take that for what its worth.

I doubt he'll be cheap, look at the price it took for Jrue. Personally I'm fine with moving whatever it takes outside of Butler, Bam, and Herro to aquire Oladipo. Miami may have to pay Robinson next year and there will be a bunch of teams that will throw more money at him then Miami will want to spend for him, might as well flip him for a good long term 2 way player.


Dipo is coming off of a ruptured quadriceps tendon injury, Jrue did not, therefore Dipo's value is much lower. As for Robinson I believe we have his bird rights so we can go over the salary cap to retain him, when its his time to get paid.
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Post#172 » by The Bunk » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:42 pm

So the Nets with pretty average assets compared to us are swinging for James Harden. Meanwhile, we are talking Danilo Gallinari.

Looks like our Jimmy Butler prime peak was year 1. Can't see us getting back to the Finals or even close as things currently stand, and 2021 is no longer something to look forward to per Milwaukee/Giannis solution.

Ugh.
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Post#173 » by AirP. » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:44 pm

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Seabass777 wrote:So listening in on Ethan Skolnick's radio podcast, he mentioned how all that talk about Victor Oladipo talking to Heat players about wanting to come play for them while in the bubble was true, however, apparently that turned off the Heat (go figure lol), stating that's just something a player shouldn't do.


The good outcome from that is, his value will be cheap in terms of getting him in a trade, so take that for what its worth.

I doubt he'll be cheap, look at the price it took for Jrue. Personally I'm fine with moving whatever it takes outside of Butler, Bam, and Herro to aquire Oladipo. Miami may have to pay Robinson next year and there will be a bunch of teams that will throw more money at him then Miami will want to spend for him, might as well flip him for a good long term 2 way player.


Dipo is coming off of a ruptured quadriceps tendon injury, Jrue did not, therefore Dipo's value is much lower. As for Robinson I believe we have his bird rights so we can go over the salary cap to retain him, when its his time to get paid.

Yeah, you can go over the cap for him but that team will be expensive. Butler max, Bam max, then Robinson as you're 3 top contract(he's not going to be cheap). I'd rather put most of that contract towards Oladipo, not Robinson.

At some point this team has to start making some decisions on it's core, although I like Robinson, I'm not investing that much money into a 26 year old who isn't all that good defensively and can't really create his own shot.

Without Oladipo being injured, Miami probably doesn't get a shot at acquiring such a talent, him just being available is good luck in itself. At some point people are going to have to realize, you can't just get whoever you want, you can only get who is available and Oladipo may/probably is available.
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Post#174 » by Kobewade11 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:44 pm

Seabass777 wrote:So listening in on Ethan Skolnick's radio podcast, he mentioned how all that talk about Victor Oladipo talking to Heat players about wanting to come play for them while in the bubble was true, however, apparently that turned off the Heat (go figure lol), stating that's just something a player shouldn't do.


The good outcome from that is, his value will be cheap in terms of getting him in a trade, so take that for what its worth.

FO has to get off their high horse, I can guarantee there were guys in our locker room (looking at you Bam) that were egging him on with the come play with us talk.
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Post#175 » by Seabass777 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:49 pm

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AirP. wrote:I doubt he'll be cheap, look at the price it took for Jrue. Personally I'm fine with moving whatever it takes outside of Butler, Bam, and Herro to aquire Oladipo. Miami may have to pay Robinson next year and there will be a bunch of teams that will throw more money at him then Miami will want to spend for him, might as well flip him for a good long term 2 way player.


Dipo is coming off of a ruptured quadriceps tendon injury, Jrue did not, therefore Dipo's value is much lower. As for Robinson I believe we have his bird rights so we can go over the salary cap to retain him, when its his time to get paid.

Yeah, you can go over the cap for him but that team will be expensive. Butler max, Bam max, then Robinson as you're 3 top contract(he's not going to be cheap). I'd rather put most of that contract towards Oladipo, not Robinson.

At some point this team has to start making some decisions on it's core, although I like Robinson, I'm not investing that much money into a 26 year old who isn't all that good defensively and can't really create his own shot.

Without Oladipo being injured, Miami probably doesn't get a shot at acquiring such a talent, him just being available is good luck in itself. At some point people are going to have to realize, you can't just get whoever you want, you can only get who is available and Oladipo may/probably is available.


Extremely valid point
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Post#176 » by 3ballbomber » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 pm

:lol:

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Post#177 » by 3ballbomber » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:00 pm

Wldn't be surprised at all.

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Post#178 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:03 pm

i am really fine with bringing back the same team. we have 2 young stars that getting better month by month. our guys fit really well into spos system. if anything grab a guy like demarcus cousins or a big that can give us some minutes when we are getting hurt on the boards.
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Post#179 » by Beenie » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:04 pm

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Post#180 » by Jinsaryko » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:05 pm

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Huh. All of the things I could've imagined seeing today, never in a million years would it be this.

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