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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 4 

Post#161 » by fishfuego. » Fri Apr 1, 2022 10:40 pm

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If you're trying to win a championship you don't play small ball and sit Yurt either.


Yurt is not the difference between a championship or not.


Repeating the same nonsense, smallball is not a winner. Very dense.

One thing I know is that Lopez is one Star Wars Chewbacca slow footed individual that can shoot the 3 occasionally and can play wall for the Bucks. But the Bucks know that without him they have a real tough road to the chip. They get it.
Dedmon is a stick that will get pushed by the likes of Lopez. Yurt would not. Maybe Spo will get it one day, but as of now, Sporon doesn’t.
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Post#162 » by harlem_ball » Fri Apr 1, 2022 10:49 pm

fishfuego. wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Yurt is not the difference between a championship or not.


Repeating the same nonsense, smallball is not a winner. Very dense.

One thing I know is that Lopez is one Star Wars Chewbacca slow footed individual that can shoot the 3 occasionally and can play wall for the Bucks. But the Bucks know that without him they have a real tough road to the chip. They get it.
Dedmon is a stick that will get pushed by the likes of Lopez. Yurt would not. Maybe Spo will get it one day, but as of now, Sporon doesn’t.


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Post#163 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Apr 1, 2022 10:55 pm

harlem_ball wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:

If you're trying to win a championship you don't play small ball and sit Yurt either.


Yurt is not the difference between a championship or not.


Repeating the same nonsense, smallball is not a winner. Very dense.


And that may be the case but whether it is or not, Yurt isn’t the deciding factor either way
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Post#164 » by harlem_ball » Fri Apr 1, 2022 11:03 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Yurt is not the difference between a championship or not.


Repeating the same nonsense, smallball is not a winner. Very dense.


And that may be the case but whether it is or not, Yurt isn’t the deciding factor either way


Obviously, cuz Spo isn't going to play him.

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Post#165 » by Tony15 » Fri Apr 1, 2022 11:28 pm

I was all for playing Yurt in spots during the regular season, but I don't think he's ready for big postseason minutes & neither does the coaching staff. We all know Spo's biggest knock is his stubbornness, but even HE would've played the guy if he thought he'd make a positive impact defensively at the 5. After getting burned by Hassan, who could blame him lol.
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Post#166 » by somerandomdude » Sat Apr 2, 2022 2:30 am

Tony15 wrote:I was all for playing Yurt in spots during the regular season, but I don't think he's ready for big postseason minutes & neither does the coaching staff. We all know Spo's biggest knock is his stubbornness, but even HE would've played the guy if he thought he'd make a positive impact defensively at the 5. After getting burned by Hassan, who could blame him lol.


No, he wouldn't.

He played Duncan Robinson all the way to the Finals as a rookie without a second thought. Is anyone going to put their rep on the line and claim that rookie Duncan Robinson's defense was ready for a championship game?

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Post#167 » by goodboys lats » Sat Apr 2, 2022 3:14 am

Heat's magic number is now 4 to get the one seed. 2-3 could actually do it but 3-2 would probably guarantee it.
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Post#168 » by Heat_Down_Under » Sat Apr 2, 2022 3:54 am

Tony15 wrote:I was all for playing Yurt in spots during the regular season, but I don't think he's ready for big postseason minutes & neither does the coaching staff. We all know Spo's biggest knock is his stubbornness, but even HE would've played the guy if he thought he'd make a positive impact defensively at the 5. After getting burned by Hassan, who could blame him lol.



I’m guessing strus wasn’t ready aswell…..
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Post#169 » by AirP. » Sat Apr 2, 2022 4:01 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:
Tony15 wrote:I was all for playing Yurt in spots during the regular season, but I don't think he's ready for big postseason minutes & neither does the coaching staff. We all know Spo's biggest knock is his stubbornness, but even HE would've played the guy if he thought he'd make a positive impact defensively at the 5. After getting burned by Hassan, who could blame him lol.



I’m guessing strus wasn’t ready aswell…..

He wasn't his rookie year, seems he's finally gained some trust from the coach near the end of his 2nd season.
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Post#170 » by Heat_Down_Under » Sat Apr 2, 2022 4:08 am

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Tony15 wrote:I was all for playing Yurt in spots during the regular season, but I don't think he's ready for big postseason minutes & neither does the coaching staff. We all know Spo's biggest knock is his stubbornness, but even HE would've played the guy if he thought he'd make a positive impact defensively at the 5. After getting burned by Hassan, who could blame him lol.



I’m guessing strus wasn’t ready aswell…..

He wasn't his rookie year, seems he's finally gained some trust from the coach near the end of his 2nd season.


So you don’t trust a guy that carried the team with bam and Dedmon out? but u trust Dedmon who does what? Let’s just hope bam doesn’t get injured in the play offs… coz I’d hate to see Dedmon start and Morris play off the bench as C.
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Post#171 » by IceColdCubano » Sat Apr 2, 2022 2:20 pm

Listen for as good as Yurt has looked in some games when he was needed due to players being out, he also looks bad on others during limited usage. He still growing into what Miami would like from a back up center to be trust worthy. As of right now, it seems Yurt plays better when he plays starters minutes, and of course most players do because its not easy to be ready when your called to play back up minutes and produce or hold your own for limited minutes. Miami is still invested in grooming him, but their is a fine line of what is and what could be vs the ultimate goal which is always an NBA championship.

I think next year however we could be seeing Yurt more confident with another off season/pre-season under his belt with the team some major improvements. Yurt needs to work on his post game, and back to the basket game. He could be a very dangerous weapon of the bench for us where we can go to him for limited minutes to score off the post, specially surrounding the bench with capable shooters which we have. We could essentially have another change to our offensive game plan and how we play when he is out there. I don't believe Bam will ever have a back to the basket game, a face up game at least somewhat serviceable is doable in the realm of possibility.
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Post#172 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Sat Apr 2, 2022 3:29 pm

Getting that 1st seed is pretty crucial. I was thinking perhaps Brooklyn would tank the play-in game vs Cleveland to stay at 8 and avoid Milwaukee in the 1st round, but that's extremely risky and I just don't see it being very likely to happen. So I expect Brooklyn to beat Cleveland end up at 7 (assuming they stay ahead of Charlotte and Atlanta going into the play-in)
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Post#173 » by carnageta » Sat Apr 2, 2022 8:34 pm

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:Getting that 1st seed is pretty crucial. I was thinking perhaps Brooklyn would tank the play-in game vs Cleveland to stay at 8 and avoid Milwaukee in the 1st round, but that's extremely risky and I just don't see it being very likely to happen. So I expect Brooklyn to beat Cleveland end up at 7 (assuming they stay ahead of Charlotte and Atlanta going into the play-in)


Thing is, they may even fall to 9th as they currently are tied for the 8th spot with Atlanta. If they fall to ninth, they'll either miss the playoffs entirely or end up at the 8th seed. I honestly think with so many unknowns and so many possibilities, every team is just trying to get to the playoffs as healthy as possible.

Miami could either play the Raps, Bulls, Cavs, Nets, Hawks or Bobcats in the first round - with an outside chance of playing either Philly or Boston (76ers are 2 games ahead of the 7th seed, and Boston is 2.5). It's never been like this before - a few years ago you'd almost know for sure which small subset of teams you'd be matching up against 78 games into the regular season.
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Post#174 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Sun Apr 3, 2022 3:42 pm

Man I really want Cleveland in the 1st round but it's looking like they might not even make the playoffs. They're pretty locked in to that 7th seed but would have to win a play-in game. Right now with all their injuries I think they'd have a hard time beating any one of Brooklyn, Atlanta, Charlotte. Ideally they'd lose the 7vs8 game then beat the 9/10 winner to end up 8th (assuming of course we get 1st)
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Post#175 » by greg4012 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:49 pm

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Tony15 wrote:I was all for playing Yurt in spots during the regular season, but I don't think he's ready for big postseason minutes & neither does the coaching staff. We all know Spo's biggest knock is his stubbornness, but even HE would've played the guy if he thought he'd make a positive impact defensively at the 5. After getting burned by Hassan, who could blame him lol.


No, he wouldn't.

He played Duncan Robinson all the way to the Finals as a rookie without a second thought. Is anyone going to put their rep on the line and claim that rookie Duncan Robinson's defense was ready for a championship game?



Duncan played in 15 total games his rookie season
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Post#176 » by somerandomdude » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:31 pm

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Tony15 wrote:I was all for playing Yurt in spots during the regular season, but I don't think he's ready for big postseason minutes & neither does the coaching staff. We all know Spo's biggest knock is his stubbornness, but even HE would've played the guy if he thought he'd make a positive impact defensively at the 5. After getting burned by Hassan, who could blame him lol.


No, he wouldn't.

He played Duncan Robinson all the way to the Finals as a rookie without a second thought. Is anyone going to put their rep on the line and claim that rookie Duncan Robinson's defense was ready for a championship game?



Duncan played in 15 total games his rookie season

Apologies for that.

Still, 15 games, which is nothing. He started all but 5 games the next season and logged nearly 30mpg.

The way I see it is, Duncan adheres to Spo's views on how basketball games are won, while Yurtz doesn't.
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Post#177 » by somerandomdude » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:32 pm

I gave my thoughts on the Nets and why they're trouble for us (Heat 3rd in highest TOV and Nets 4th in Pts Off TOV since Kyrie came back).

I was watching the Bucks-Mavs game yesterday and the thing that scares me most about the Bucks is how they can steal a game at the end and their ability to close games.

There's no highlights of it, but their ability to trap and force turnovers was on display against the Mavs and it was impressive. They gave Luka fits during that stretch and the Mavs did not get a grip on things until about the 3rd or 4th possession that they trapped. But, even then, they were still sold traps and it wasn't easy for the Mavs.

Last time we played the Bucks, we had a 14pt lead against them and blew it. Granted, there were more factors involved than just the Bucks as to why we lost, but what most people will remember is the turnovers they forced.

To me, this is why the Bucks are truly championship contenders. It reminds me of when we played against the 04-05 Pistons in how no lead was safe because they could steal games at the end and knew how to close.

EDIT: here's the turnover highlights https://go.nba.com/5rnsw. Start with the 2nd turnover. Not included are the traps that didn't result in a turnover, but were still impressive.
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Post#178 » by balla345 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:52 pm

Feels like we have more upside with Dipo playing but with Gabe you already know what your getting with him.
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Post#179 » by wade44 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 5:00 pm

balla345 wrote:Feels like we have more upside with Dipo playing but with Gabe you already know what your getting with him.


Agreed. Give me consistency over volatility any day

He’ll be ready to go next season with a healthy off-season and full season w/ the team
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Post#180 » by greg4012 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 5:57 pm

somerandomdude wrote:
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No, he wouldn't.

He played Duncan Robinson all the way to the Finals as a rookie without a second thought. Is anyone going to put their rep on the line and claim that rookie Duncan Robinson's defense was ready for a championship game?



Duncan played in 15 total games his rookie season

Apologies for that.

Still, 15 games, which is nothing. He started all but 5 games the next season and logged nearly 30mpg.

The way I see it is, Duncan adheres to Spo's views on how basketball games are won, while Yurtz doesn't.


The way I see it, Duncan had time to develop in the Heat organization for a year as a rookie before being thrust into real action. Yurt is doing the same, but has the benefit of more playing time as a rookie

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