Miami Heat 2023/2024 Regular Season - Thread 2.0

[twix2500]

With the emergence of JJJ and Highsmith I wonder how many minutes will be available for Caleb? It's good to have as many wings as possible, but he's also in a contract year so you know he will want the minutes to further showcase himself.

I was thinking that, myself. When he comes back WE ARE DEEP! And when Tyler comes back, who sits?

If Bam, Butler, Herro, Lowry, and Highsmith start (they should) that means we'll have Martin, Richardson, Jaquez, Robinson, and Love all absolutely worthy of minutes off of the bench, with Dru Smith and Thomas Bryant knocking at the door, themselves. Not sure how we manage that. It may have to be a night to night thing, based on matchups. More likely, we go ten deep. It's going to be an interesting lineup, that's for sure.

Spo runs a 9 to 10 man rotation. Players will be sitting out as Spo rotates rotation game by game

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[Kobewade11]

I’d rather trade Herro than Duncan at this point. All of a sudden his mere 18 million a year is a drop in the hat compared to what some of these guys are getting paid nowadays. He is actually becoming valuable with the growth he has shown this season. As far as Herro we have shown the ability to win without him which makes him expendable.

I never really understood this logic. If there’s some star thats going to be sitting out there that drastically alters the ceiling for this team its fair to entertain a Herro trade. But if not, what are we really talking about here? Lets put appropriate value on our players.

[RexBoyWonder]

the guy id target is Collin sexton.

Can move Lowry + asset to get Sexton and Kelly.

Sexston in on a average size contract, hes an efficient aggressive scorer and brings the energy defensively.

hed be a great fit here as startibng PG and he won;t cost much.

[Vertical Limit]

We have won 4 straight games without Herro.. and won a bunch of playoff games last year without him. The evidence is enough, he is not necessary on this team.

[dshearn]

Well, Caleb peaked at the right time last year. Clearly looked like a starter in the post season.

Wonder if Herro-Caleb-Jimmy-Highsmith-Bam could get any burn.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

We have won 4 straight games without Herro.. and won a bunch of playoff games last year without him. The evidence is enough, he is not necessary on this team.

I'm still torn on him, but I'd definitely sell high if he continued to play well when coming back, we were winning, and the right deal came along. Just a crazy hypothetical but imagine the Clippers situation implodes horribly, and Kawhi starts demanding out. I know, highly unlikely since he went there specifically to be at home, but maybe he misses the sort of structure/coaching he had with the Spurs, and thinks it can be replicated here... ok I'll wake up now, prob never happening in a million years, Tyler's our guy.

[carnageta]

There's 100% still room for Herro on this team. He raises our ceiling substantially.

Just wait until Duncan Robinson goes through another rough patch, ya'll will want him gone and will beg for Tyler to return

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[Vertical Limit]

We have won 4 straight games without Herro.. and won a bunch of playoff games last year without him. The evidence is enough, he is not necessary on this team.

I'm still torn on him, but I'd definitely sell high if he continued to play well when coming back, we were winning, and the right deal came along. Just a crazy hypothetical but imagine the Clippers situation implodes horribly, and Kawhi starts demanding out. I know, highly unlikely since he went there specifically to be at home, but maybe he misses the sort of structure/coaching he had with the Spurs, and thinks it can be replicated here... ok I'll wake up now, prob never happening in a million years, Tyler's our guy.

Well i said after the dame trade happened, that we are still very much in play for deadline trades.

If the clippers or warriors are not what theyre suppose to be.. i can see Klay and PG/Kawhi become available. I can also see a team like Sacramento try to clear up space and they have a lot of guards that we can use. The Wizards may try to free themselves from Tyus as they have Jordan Poole already.

These are teams in cap hell. Theyre going to want an expiring and assets back.

We are in good position.. we definitely need a PG and better three point shooting..

[carnageta]

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Hoping Martin ends of taking JRich's minutes and not JJJ's or Highsmith's.

[carnageta]

Hayward Highsmith is listed at 6'5" but on the court he looks slightly taller than Jimmy Butler. Interesting..

I guess he really is the new PJ Tucker.

[IceColdCubano]

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Hoping Martin ends of taking JRich's minutes and not JJJ's or Highsmith's.

Ira and Lockon both talked about this very thing about who takes those minutes, they both said pretty much the same thing. It would be JJJ, because Caleb doesn't have the handles or the teams trust to be a primary ball handler like they do in JRich.
JRich could see some minute reduction anyways because he is playing starter minutes as a back, playing both the Backup PG & SG spots. However that is just about 10-12 minutes Caleb can grab at the 2guard.

[Daffy]

For the people saying we won the finals without Herro please remember Boston took us to 7 after a 3-0 and we also loss in the finals due to our hot shooting cooling off and no one other than Butler, Bam and Caleb (for a series) not being able to score.

Add context to the games we loss without Herro this season. Back to back games. Games where Butler either coasted or didn't play and a game where Bam missed.

[dolphinatik]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38864447/2023-24-nba-power-rankings-mavs-climb-ranks-okc-wolves-assert-top-10

Updated NBA Rankings have Heat at 9 overall.

Heat are getting a ton of respect around the league right now.

[Kobewade11]

We have won 4 straight games without Herro.. and won a bunch of playoff games last year without him. The evidence is enough, he is not necessary on this team.

When the FO wanted to bring back the core team believing their runs over the last 3-4 years are sufficient, the argument was who cares about winning playoff games we want to win it all. But when its time to throw our guys under the bus, winning “a bunch of playoff games” is suddenly enough lol. As I’ve said before, correlation does not imply causation. Depth is part of the strength of this team, equating winning games without Herro, Caleb, etc. as evidence they are aren’t needed is just flat out lazy analysis, more in the case of Herro where nobody else on the roster can quite duplicate his skillset.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Clippers imploding would definitely be interesting for us

[3ammy3uck3ts]

What’s the value of 2 guys who are often injured, paid a lot, with future contracts not in place.

Lowry Duncan Jovic and 2-3 1sts landing you either Kawhi or PG?!

Who knows.

[MettaWorldPanda]

the guy id target is Collin sexton.

Can move Lowry + asset to get Sexton and Kelly.

Sexston in on a average size contract, hes an efficient aggressive scorer and brings the energy defensively.

hed be a great fit here as startibng PG and he won;t cost much.

Sexton is also tied to Klutch.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Hayward Highsmith is listed at 6'5" but on the court he looks slightly taller than Jimmy Butler. Interesting..

I guess he really is the new PJ Tucker.

I’ve seen Highsmith measured in anywhere between 6’4 to 6’7. He has a different height depending on the site you go on. The only constant is the 7’0 wingspan.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Dinwiddie with 29-5-9 last night. Would love to get him here, beat them tomorrow and push them further down the standings.

Caruso Dinwiddie and DFS added to this team would work wonders. Add elite defense, good 3 point shooting, and a good scoring punch. Could put us over the top

I think O’Neale is more likely due to the expiring contract but would love DFS attached. Dinwiddie would be great here and makes a ton of sense.