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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#161 » by Shewasfly » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:25 am

twix2500 wrote:Spo has to give Mitchell more on offense than just bring the ball up swing pass run to corner. It makes the offense stagnant and leads to a player trying to do one on ones. Gotta get Mitchell more involved

More involved to do what though? He’s not a good offensive player and not a good playmaker.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#162 » by Wiltside » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:29 am

This team is lotto bound. It’s not the worst thing. I’m confident we can reload and make the playoffs next season and not hand an amazing pick to OKC.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#163 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:33 am

Wiltside wrote:This team is lotto bound. It’s not the worst thing. I’m confident we can reload and make the playoffs next season and not hand an amazing pick to OKC.


100% whale hunting this summer, the end of the season and the vibes that “Jimmy won” aren’t going to sit well with this FO and if we’re lotto bound this year which unprotected our future picks to OKC and Charlotte that’s just even more incentive for the FO to build a contender
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Post#164 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:35 am

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This matched the eye test, the time off will hopefully help him, we don’t play again until next Friday
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#165 » by oreon » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:51 am

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This matched the eye test, the time off will hopefully help him, we don’t play again until next Friday


Ratings per game don't tell much. He had an okay game not great. Couldn't make shots in a crucial part of the 4th. But without him in the 2nd or 3rd Dallas has a double digit lead going to 4th. Ware cooled off after the 1st half. It was just Herro and Anderson who could get anything going. Defensively he could have been better. But Mitchell got cooked as well, because of lack of length. But overall Hero was a positive.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#166 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:55 am

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This matched the eye test, the time off will hopefully help him, we don’t play again until next Friday


Ratings per game don't tell much. He had an okay game not great. Couldn't make shots in a crucial part of the 4th. But without him in the 2nd or 3rd Dallas has a double digit lead going to 4th. Ware cooled off after the 1st half. It was just Herro and Anderson who could get anything going. Defensively he could have been better. But Mitchell got cooked as well, because of lack of length. But overall Hero was a positive.


Too many variables to know what would have or would not have happened, they played better when he was off the court. Just an all around bad night for the guys, no one really imposed their will on the game, this needed to be a big Ware night considering the biggest guy for the Mavs was 6’7
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#167 » by contract » Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:11 am

How the hell did we lose to a YMCA team? :lol:
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Post#168 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:55 am

The question you have to ask with Tyler is, if he's not going to be "the" guy (which he probably won't be on a real contender), will he fit? I'm liking his progress this season as a player, just hoping/wondering if its going to translate to a better team with a better #1 option, should that arise in the next year or two.

For whatever reason, he couldn't make this happen next to Jimmy. The question you have to ask is, was he just not ready yet as a player, or was it an issue with not being the primary option? And if it's the latter... sigh.

You know what I miss most about #3? He was the only player I can ever remember following that had supreme superstar talent, but could just blend in to the action whenever it was required, like he always knew exactly how much a team needed of him. Whether it was being an ensemble guy in his rookie year, deferring to Shaq year 2, taking over in year 3, being the spark plug off the bench in the Olympics, deferring to LeBron in '12/13, letting Bosh lead the show for a bit before he got sick... I wish every player could just seamlessly swap roles like that.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#169 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:55 am

I loved the bit when Mitchell intentionally turns the ball over just so he could showcase his blocking ability.
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Post#170 » by 3ballbomber » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:15 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:The question you have to ask with Tyler is, if he's not going to be "the" guy (which he probably won't be on a real contender), will he fit? I'm liking his progress this season as a player, just hoping/wondering if its going to translate to a better team with a better #1 option, should that arise in the next year or two.

For whatever reason, he couldn't make this happen next to Jimmy. The question you have to ask is, was he just not ready yet as a player, or was it an issue with not being the primary option? And if it's the latter... sigh.

You know what I miss most about #3? He was the only player I can ever remember following that had supreme superstar talent, but could just blend in to the action whenever it was required, like he always knew exactly how much a team needed of him. Whether it was being an ensemble guy in his rookie year, deferring to Shaq year 2, taking over in year 3, being the spark plug off the bench in the Olympics, deferring to LeBron in '12/13, letting Bosh lead the show for a bit before he got sick... I wish every player could just seamlessly swap roles like that.


Wade was a special talent w/ the character to match. He was an elite competitor & wanted to win. He impacted winning in what ever capacity. His will was 2nd to none. We were vry lucky to land a guy like that. Cut frm the same cloth of greats.

Tyler is far frm the fierce competitor Wade was. Wade was forged frm hardship & adversity which breeds hunger. Wade was ready as soon as he entered the league. Unfair to compere any player to Wade. Tyler simply wasn't ready during Butler’s days. Still young, inexperienced & immature. But he’s showing growth through guidance frm the organisation & improvements frm his hardwork & has taken leaps which resulted to all-star status. We are simply bottom dwellers w/out him this season. I see him more of a Middleton, Clay, Brown sort of player. The Robin/sidekick. He doesn’t have the frame, quickness & athleticism to be the #1 guy. Make no mistake about it though, in a legit contending roster Herro is a dangerous player.

For now the development is in progress. The attention/focus, game planning & double teamming they throw at him will only make him better not worse.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#171 » by Heat_Down_Under » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:36 am

Tyler being an all star has really got some of you in your feels LOL
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Post#172 » by Heat_Down_Under » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:44 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:The question you have to ask with Tyler is, if he's not going to be "the" guy (which he probably won't be on a real contender), will he fit? I'm liking his progress this season as a player, just hoping/wondering if its going to translate to a better team with a better #1 option, should that arise in the next year or two.

For whatever reason, he couldn't make this happen next to Jimmy. The question you have to ask is, was he just not ready yet as a player, or was it an issue with not being the primary option? And if it's the latter... sigh.

You know what I miss most about #3? He was the only player I can ever remember following that had supreme superstar talent, but could just blend in to the action whenever it was required, like he always knew exactly how much a team needed of him. Whether it was being an ensemble guy in his rookie year, deferring to Shaq year 2, taking over in year 3, being the spark plug off the bench in the Olympics, deferring to LeBron in '12/13, letting Bosh lead the show for a bit before he got sick... I wish every player could just seamlessly swap roles like that.


Wade was a top 5 pick…

how many teams have drafted back to back (in our case 2 years apart Herro, bam) outside the top 10 and was an elite duo since Stockton and Malone?
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#173 » by NightWatch » Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:18 am

Ware is soft. 9 rebounds? Embarrassing for a guy who is 7ft tall and he had 6 rebounds last game. Freaking soft! Anthony Davis is 6’10, he would’ve got 20 rebounds. Ware need to start going after every rebound with strength instead of waiting for the ball to bounce to him.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#174 » by contract » Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:40 am

Heat_Down_Under wrote:Tyler being an all star has really got some of you in your feels LOL

I'm in my feels because this team is going to give him an extension at $50 million per ... and he's not worth the $30 million he's getting now.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#175 » by Heat_Down_Under » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:20 am

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Heat_Down_Under wrote:Tyler being an all star has really got some of you in your feels LOL

I'm in my feels because this team is going to give him an extension at $50 million per ... and he's not worth the $30 million he's getting now.


Based on “your opinion”. Still doesn’t take away from the fact he’s an All-Star and you’re in your feels
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Post#176 » by contract » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:37 am

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Heat_Down_Under wrote:Tyler being an all star has really got some of you in your feels LOL

I'm in my feels because this team is going to give him an extension at $50 million per ... and he's not worth the $30 million he's getting now.


Based on “your opinion”. Still doesn’t take away from the fact he’s an All-Star and you’re in your feels

Congratulations on Tyler being chosen for the all star team.
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Post#177 » by caliban » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:38 am

Worse than the Hassan, Johnson and Johnson squad. Pretty bad.
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Post#178 » by marson » Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:02 pm

caliban wrote:Worse than the Hassan, Johnson and Johnson squad. Pretty bad.


Aside from Hassan, the rest of the team is full of dawgs.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#179 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:44 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:The question you have to ask with Tyler is, if he's not going to be "the" guy (which he probably won't be on a real contender), will he fit? I'm liking his progress this season as a player, just hoping/wondering if its going to translate to a better team with a better #1 option, should that arise in the next year or two.

For whatever reason, he couldn't make this happen next to Jimmy. The question you have to ask is, was he just not ready yet as a player, or was it an issue with not being the primary option? And if it's the latter... sigh.

You know what I miss most about #3? He was the only player I can ever remember following that had supreme superstar talent, but could just blend in to the action whenever it was required, like he always knew exactly how much a team needed of him. Whether it was being an ensemble guy in his rookie year, deferring to Shaq year 2, taking over in year 3, being the spark plug off the bench in the Olympics, deferring to LeBron in '12/13, letting Bosh lead the show for a bit before he got sick... I wish every player could just seamlessly swap roles like that.


Unfortunately it still remains to be seen, like you’ve mentioned before majority of our deep playoff runs came without Tyler and with a specialist in his place willing to fall in line and play their role. I’m going to say he just wasn’t ready but he still hasn’t shown us he can really impact winning.

And people will say “we’d be a bottom team in the league without Herro this year”. Well, we just lost to the Mavs 4th string who didn’t have a single big man on the roster. I know we had guys out too but we still had our our bet guys, Herro, a ROY candidate, and other 1st round guys playing. A true all star wins you that game, instead we let Dante Exum be the best player on the court.

Tyler is an elite shooter, if he’s willing to play off ball in a role that has him getting 8-10 good looks from 3 a night and a few layups here and there I think he can help a contender but it can’t be at a higher value contract than what he currently has. You can’t build a true contender with a guy making $50M if he’s only a scorer and somewhat a playmaker here and there with little to no defense if they’re not a top 5 or maybe 10 offensive player in the league.
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Re: Miami @ Dallas Feb 13th 830 PM EST 

Post#180 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:45 pm

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Heat_Down_Under wrote:Tyler being an all star has really got some of you in your feels LOL

I'm in my feels because this team is going to give him an extension at $50 million per ... and he's not worth the $30 million he's getting now.


Tyler at $50M will be brutal, hopefully they don’t get roped into it.
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