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Post#1601 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:15 pm

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3ballbomber wrote:Tatum wld be a pipe dream....players like Lillard, Giannis (b4 he got the bag) are pipe dreams. If people are willing to throw everyone but Bam, Jimmy & Lowry then Brown can be a possibility.

I don't see us giving away Herro & Duncan for the likes of a player like Jaylen Brown. I think they have more value & can net bigger Whale. I know many here wld but highly doubt Miami wld make that sort of deal. Remember cats here wanted to package Herro for Lowry. Our team wld be depleted if fans made trade decisions :lol:

I would though consider a package w/ Duncan for Brown.


If stevens called Miami and said hey y’all can have brown for Herro Duncan and a 1st I feel very confident Pat wouldn’t hesitate to accept. That’s a steal and he’s a perfect fit.

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That's highway robbery. If Jaylen were on the market, we couldn't compete with what teams would offer to get him. I love Herro, but if that's all we had to give up to get him, he'd be wearing a heat jersey rn.


No I definitely agree, some are overvaluing our guys quite a bit. We’d have to work something out to send multiple picks and make it worth it for Boston.

3 team deal with Herro Duncan and multiple picks from the Heat and Celtics going to the wizards, brown to Miami, and Beal going to Boston. We’d have to get creative.
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Post#1602 » by oreon » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:16 pm

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3ballbomber wrote:Tatum wld be a pipe dream....players like Lillard, Giannis (b4 he got the bag) are pipe dreams. If people are willing to throw everyone but Bam, Jimmy & Lowry then Brown can be a possibility.

I don't see us giving away Herro & Duncan for the likes of a player like Jaylen Brown. I think they have more value & can net bigger Whale. I know many here wld but highly doubt Miami wld make that sort of deal. Remember cats here wanted to package Herro for Lowry. Our team wld be depleted if fans made trade decisions :lol:

I would though consider a package w/ Duncan for Brown.


If stevens called Miami and said hey y’all can have brown for Herro Duncan and a 1st I feel very confident Pat wouldn’t hesitate to accept. That’s a steal and he’s a perfect fit.

Lowry
Brown
Jimmy
Tucker
Bam

That’s a championship

That's highway robbery. If Jaylen were on the market, we couldn't compete with what teams would offer to get him. I love Herro, but if that's all we had to give up to get him, he'd be wearing a heat jersey rn.


Celtics would ask for Bam in a Heat trade. Which I think would be a fair trade. They're both allstars. Bam has a bigger defensive impact but Brown can create his own shot in isolation which is super valuable in the playoffs. And the fact that he can shoot and defend means he can fit in any system. But for Miami that would be a hard NO just because it of the Heat's identity and as hard as it is to get elite wings who can create their own shot, shoot from 3 & defend, it's even harder to get a big who can defend all 5 positions.
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Post#1603 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 8, 2022 7:19 pm

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If stevens called Miami and said hey y’all can have brown for Herro Duncan and a 1st I feel very confident Pat wouldn’t hesitate to accept. That’s a steal and he’s a perfect fit.

Lowry
Brown
Jimmy
Tucker
Bam

That’s a championship

That's highway robbery. If Jaylen were on the market, we couldn't compete with what teams would offer to get him. I love Herro, but if that's all we had to give up to get him, he'd be wearing a heat jersey rn.


Celtics would ask for Bam in a Heat trade. Which I think would be a fair trade. They're both allstars. Bam has a bigger defensive impact but Brown can create his own shot in isolation which is super valuable in the playoffs. And the fact that he can shoot and defend means he can fit in any system. But for Miami that would be a hard NO just because it of the Heat's identity and as hard as it is to get elite wings who can create their own shot, shoot from 3 & defend, it's even harder to get a big who can defend all 5 positions.


That’s a huge hole in the front court and I believe Bam is a superior player to everyone on the Celtics. He needs to have the highest usage on the team. He’s a constant mismatch on the court on both ends 25-12-4 is doable, give herros usage to Bam. Not to mention he’s the best overall defender in the league, top 5 worst case.
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Post#1605 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:06 pm

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Post#1606 » by al bondiga » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:13 pm

Let's go straight to the bone... we are a defensive team, that is our identity... playoffs is our game, that's it for the foreseeable future ...given our players and our coach... here's to hoping we make it every year, until the bam retires or he's traded
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Post#1607 » by twix2500 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:13 pm

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Knew the fox part was coming but didn’t expect Halliburton. Terrible organizations will continue to be terrible I guess.
If they are willing to trade Fox it doesn't matter who else they add to the trade. They are gonna have to remodel the entire team to fit Simmons. Like you said Kings is a dumb organization. They never have a cohesive plan.

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Post#1608 » by MiamiSun » Sat Jan 8, 2022 8:16 pm

Ahead of tonights matchup with the Suns, I had a thought.

If the Heat and the Suns both fail in their expectations for this season, would you trade Jimmy Butler for Devon Booker.

Devon would be more on Bam's championship timeline and Butler is more in line with CP.
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Post#1609 » by KingDavid » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:15 pm

MiamiSun wrote:Ahead of tonights matchup with the Suns, I had a thought.

If the Heat and the Suns both fail in their expectations for this season, would you trade Jimmy Butler for Devon Booker.

Devon would be more on Bam's championship timeline and Butler is more in line with CP.

Suns would never do it. We would have to give up way more than an aging Jimmy Butler. And I honestly wouldn't trade Jimmy.
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Post#1610 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Jan 8, 2022 9:25 pm

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Knew the fox part was coming but didn’t expect Halliburton. Terrible organizations will continue to be terrible I guess.

Smh. I thought we had an outside shot at a package for Fox prior to signing Lowry.
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Post#1611 » by The Bandit » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:12 pm

Any word on how much longer Bam is going to be out?
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Post#1612 » by al bondiga » Sat Jan 8, 2022 10:58 pm

MiamiSun wrote:Ahead of tonights matchup with the Suns, I had a thought.

If the Heat and the Suns both fail in their expectations for this season, would you trade Jimmy Butler for Devon Booker.

Devon would be more on Bam's championship timeline and Butler is more in line with CP.
of course I would do it but I don't think Phoenix would... I just don't think it would work out for neither team they are two different kind of players and we need somebody like Jimmy Phoenix has cp3 already
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Post#1614 » by puppa bear » Sun Jan 9, 2022 2:16 am

Why is everyone so hot on the Klay return & how it will impact a contender, but cool on Dipo.

Apparently, Klay may single handed push GS over the top. But mention Dipo and “breh, he washed” is al you get. I get that Kaly’s peak was higher, but both have missed big time and it’s unclear if either will even be 80% of what they used to be.
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Post#1615 » by puppa bear » Sun Jan 9, 2022 2:57 am

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Knew the fox part was coming but didn’t expect Halliburton. Terrible organizations will continue to be terrible I guess.

Smh. I thought we had an outside shot at a package for Fox prior to signing Lowry.

Greg & Adam have been dropping hints and suggestions on twitter that the FO don’t see this roster as complete & there’s still one more piece they want to put in place. If things play out right for us Duncan/Herro/picks package is what’s going to be used to target the final piece.

I doubt Fox/Hali are it, but them being movable might help with 3-way deals for other potential targets.

Both have indicated different players, but they both maintain the target(s) are bigger fish than Barnes/Turner/Young.

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Makes me think that it’s someone that the players are working on behind the scenes - like we did with Jimmy & Lowry. The list is probably then something like: Beal, Mitchell, Ingram, unknown player.

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Post#1616 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jan 9, 2022 3:11 am

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Knew the fox part was coming but didn’t expect Halliburton. Terrible organizations will continue to be terrible I guess.

Smh. I thought we had an outside shot at a package for Fox prior to signing Lowry.

Greg & Adam have been dropping hints and suggestions on twitter that the FO don’t see this roster as complete & there’s still one more piece they want to put in place. If things play out right for us Duncan/Herro/picks package is what’s going to be used to target the final piece.

I doubt Fox/Hali are it, but them being movable might help with 3-way deals for other potential targets.

Both have indicated different players, but they both maintain the target(s) are bigger fish than Barnes/Turner/Young.

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Makes me think that it’s someone that the players are working on behind the scenes - like we did with Jimmy & Lowry. The list is probably then something like: Beal, Mitchell, Ingram, unknown player.

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Tucker more than likely needed for salary too unfortunately
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Post#1617 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jan 9, 2022 4:38 am

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Post#1618 » by dshearn » Sun Jan 9, 2022 4:43 am

I am sold on Yurt, but they have to get him in to the offense more organically or get those passes up. If they get him the ball at his knees nothing good happens. At worst its a turn over, at best he has no rhythm on his shot coming from his knees up to shoot.

Both Bam and Yurt seem to have butterfingers when the ball comes to them down low. It's almost Joel Anthony-ish.
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Post#1619 » by puppa bear » Sun Jan 9, 2022 5:19 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
puppa bear wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:Smh. I thought we had an outside shot at a package for Fox prior to signing Lowry.

Greg & Adam have been dropping hints and suggestions on twitter that the FO don’t see this roster as complete & there’s still one more piece they want to put in place. If things play out right for us Duncan/Herro/picks package is what’s going to be used to target the final piece.

I doubt Fox/Hali are it, but them being movable might help with 3-way deals for other potential targets.

Both have indicated different players, but they both maintain the target(s) are bigger fish than Barnes/Turner/Young.

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Makes me think that it’s someone that the players are working on behind the scenes - like we did with Jimmy & Lowry. The list is probably then something like: Beal, Mitchell, Ingram, unknown player.

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Tucker more than likely needed for salary too unfortunately

For Beal, yes. But if it’s Ingram or Mitchell we can get it done with Herro/Duncan/KZ/vet min.
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Post#1620 » by Hallstar » Sun Jan 9, 2022 5:48 am

Some of you clearly have no idea of the value Herro would have around the league. Boston would send out Brown without a second thought. They would do anything to have a guard that can create and people in here talking about adding picks? Brown still relies a lot on shots being created for him. He scores within the flow of the game but all those bailout passes we toss to Herro with time running out? Brown's not that guy. There's nothing a Beal or Booker does that he can't, especially taking age into account. Out of all the names mentioned, Mitchell is the only one I'm trading him for. If Herro was on another team we would be coming up with all sorts of wild scenarios to get him. How is trading him for dudes that have near complete freedom with similar production on worse teams make sense?

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