Miami Heat Offseason Thread 8.0 - 47 cRonin and the inevitable seppuku

[SoFlaKingReal]

I don’t need to watch that video to know it makes zero sense for OKC to make a play for Dame lol

[powerball1373]

I don’t need to watch that video to know it makes zero sense for OKC to make a play for Dame lol

Cool stay in the safe homer zone. Disregard all other opinions, regardless if it's from people that definitely know more about basketball than you, i.e. Jason Timpf. Cover your ears and go 'lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala' and then maybe nobody else will hear it either! For the record, he doesn't think they'll do it, but he thinks it would make sense.

[Daffy]

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The second Dame folds and adds more teams then the real games begin. We have the best package out of the one team Dame selected .

Once other teams get involved basically it's over for us so duh we are motivated.

No. He doesn't have the market. Tell me who would trade for him. It pretty much needs to be a contender.

Boston: Brown is expiring (so dumb idea) and his supermax finishes that chance. Besides, they know Dame doesn't want to go there.
Cleveland: By the middle of the contract Garland is better.
Philadelphia: They can toss in Maxey (who is in his last season of the rookie deal) and Harden (who can be redirected the same as Herro), but they don't have picks either.
Brooklyn: They can match with Simmons and picks but they won't do it. That $$$$$ at the end of Dame's deal is major turn off.
Atlanta: has two point guards already they are paying $$$ for. Why’d add $$$$$?
Milwaukee: Jrue is a far better defender on a cheaper deal. The team is running it back and right up against the wall.
Toronto: Maybe send Anunoby and Siakam for a disgruntled player? Why though? And $$$$$...
Lakers: That would be funny. I hope it happens to see Cronin get run out of town.
Clippers: really no assets. Their biggest names are expiring.
Utah: plenty of assets but Dame is going to play with kids and it won't be pretty. Same with Houston.
Sacramento have Fox.
New York has Brunson.
Phoenix already way past sanity in $$$$$
Denver has Murray who is better.
Memphis has Ja who is better.
Golden State have Steph who is much better.

Go down the list and tell me where the offer is coming from.

Chicago via Lavine. Nope.

Portland put a poison pill on Lillard by overpaying him. Miami is the only one insane enough to pull the trigger.

Murray and Ja are what?

[broke]

I wonder if this is going to drag out do we go ahead and deal Herro regardless for what we can get just to hold on to for a possible Dame trade or do we keep him with the squad even though he’s all pissy

[3ammy3uck3ts]

They would get swept by Denver or phoenix.

If you think adding Dame to that team means they'd get swept by Denver or Phoenix, then Dame isn't that good and we don't need to waste our time here with all this lol.

The fact that you think adding dame to a team full of children that didn't make the playoffs is the same thing as adding dame to a team thats made the finals two of the last 4 years tells me everything I need to know.

Facts cooked her

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The second Dame folds and adds more teams then the real games begin. We have the best package out of the one team Dame selected .

Once other teams get involved basically it's over for us so duh we are motivated.

No. He doesn't have the market. Tell me who would trade for him. It pretty much needs to be a contender.

Boston: Brown is expiring (so dumb idea) and his supermax finishes that chance. Besides, they know Dame doesn't want to go there.
Cleveland: By the middle of the contract Garland is better.
Philadelphia: They can toss in Maxey (who is in his last season of the rookie deal) and Harden (who can be redirected the same as Herro), but they don't have picks either.
Brooklyn: They can match with Simmons and picks but they won't do it. That $$$$$ at the end of Dame's deal is major turn off.
Atlanta: has two point guards already they are paying $$$ for. Why’d add $$$$$?
Milwaukee: Jrue is a far better defender on a cheaper deal. The team is running it back and right up against the wall.
Toronto: Maybe send Anunoby and Siakam for a disgruntled player? Why though? And $$$$$...
Lakers: That would be funny. I hope it happens to see Cronin get run out of town.
Clippers: really no assets. Their biggest names are expiring.
Utah: plenty of assets but Dame is going to play with kids and it won't be pretty. Same with Houston.
Sacramento have Fox.
New York has Brunson.
Phoenix already way past sanity in $$$$$
Denver has Murray who is better.
Memphis has Ja who is better.
Golden State have Steph who is much better.

Go down the list and tell me where the offer is coming from.

Chicago via Lavine. Nope.

Portland put a poison pill on Lillard by overpaying him. Miami is the only one insane enough to pull the trigger.

Murray and Ja are what?

[DBurks2818]

I love how Rapaz has willingly become the villain we need, and the one we deserve right now

[powerball1373]

If you think adding Dame to that team means they'd get swept by Denver or Phoenix, then Dame isn't that good and we don't need to waste our time here with all this lol.

The fact that you think adding dame to a team full of children that didn't make the playoffs is the same thing as adding dame to a team thats made the finals two of the last 4 years tells me everything I need to know.

Facts cooked her

Did somebody say cook?

[MiamiLoyal926]

I love how Rapaz has willingly become the villain we need, and the one we deserve right now

A true Herro!!!

[HEATVols865]

The second Dame folds and adds more teams then the real games begin. We have the best package out of the one team Dame selected .

Once other teams get involved basically it's over for us so duh we are motivated.

There isn't going to be a team that offers Portland what they want. No one waiting to get it line to pay 36 year old Dame 63 million dollars.

Portland is holding out hope that Dame opens his list so that they can receive **** sandwich offers from those teams too!

The Nets are interested. The Clippers are interested so are other teams. Teams are just waiting for this charade to end. Once Dame folds which either will or won't happen, then the fun begins. Say the Nets get added to the list, do you honestly still feel our offer will win? Yeah thats why we are "motivated"

Dude you’re like cheering and hoping Dame doesn’t come here. Yuck

[gom]

The second Dame folds and adds more teams then the real games begin. We have the best package out of the one team Dame selected .

Once other teams get involved basically it's over for us so duh we are motivated.

No. He doesn't have the market. Tell me who would trade for him. It pretty much needs to be a contender.

Boston: Brown is expiring (so dumb idea) and his supermax finishes that chance. Besides, they know Dame doesn't want to go there.
Cleveland: By the middle of the contract Garland is better.
Philadelphia: They can toss in Maxey (who is in his last season of the rookie deal) and Harden (who can be redirected the same as Herro), but they don't have picks either.
Brooklyn: They can match with Simmons and picks but they won't do it. That $$$$$ at the end of Dame's deal is major turn off.
Atlanta: has two point guards already they are paying $$$ for. Why’d add $$$$$?
Milwaukee: Jrue is a far better defender on a cheaper deal. The team is running it back and right up against the wall.
Toronto: Maybe send Anunoby and Siakam for a disgruntled player? Why though? And $$$$$...
Lakers: That would be funny. I hope it happens to see Cronin get run out of town.
Clippers: really no assets. Their biggest names are expiring.
Utah: plenty of assets but Dame is going to play with kids and it won't be pretty. Same with Houston.
Sacramento have Fox.
New York has Brunson.
Phoenix already way past sanity in $$$$$
Denver has Murray who is better.
Memphis has Ja who is better.
Golden State have Steph who is much better.

Go down the list and tell me where the offer is coming from.

Chicago via Lavine. Nope.

Portland put a poison pill on Lillard by overpaying him. Miami is the only one insane enough to pull the trigger.

What about OKC, as Jason Timpf suggested in his podcast? They have so many picks they could add him without giving up any of their young talent. Imagine Dame with SGA, Chet, Giddey, Dort, Williams etc.

SGA is their point guard and is already a max player and better than LIllard in many ways. Lillard adds very little to the team.

[dean456]

I don’t need to watch that video to know it makes zero sense for OKC to make a play for Dame lol

Cool stay in the safe homer zone. Disregard all other opinions, regardless if it's from people that definitely know more about basketball than you, i.e. Jason Timpf. Cover your ears and go 'lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala' and then maybe nobody else will hear it either! For the record, he doesn't think they'll do it, but he thinks it would make sense.

I watched the video, he makes a compelling argument on paper but its still a team that's not ready to compete for a championship.

This OKC team as currently constructed hasn't even made the playoffs in the West yet, they are not going to go from out of the playoffs to contender just by adding Dame.

At best they'll make the playoffs and get outclassed by a more experienced team.

Similar situation just happened with Cleveland, they traded for Mitchell and have a bunch of bright young prospects on their roster but ultimately it resulted in a first round exit because they are not experienced enough in playoff basketball.

Dame has a a 3 year window here to make a real run at it as a go to guy before he's Chris Paul bouncing around the league trying to find the place he can win one, he hasn't got time to bet on the potential of something. Miami is the closest thing to a guarantee he has that the team will do everything it can to put itself in a position to win every year that he's here.

OKC aren't going to trade their picks they will keep building through the draft and when the right player presents itself that fits their timeline. Someone more around SGA's age then they will likely make a move for that player. OKC has positioned themselves better than any rebuilding team can for the next 10+ years they will be very calculated about any moves they make.

[gom]

No. He doesn't have the market. Tell me who would trade for him. It pretty much needs to be a contender.

Boston: Brown is expiring (so dumb idea) and his supermax finishes that chance. Besides, they know Dame doesn't want to go there.
Cleveland: By the middle of the contract Garland is better.
Philadelphia: They can toss in Maxey (who is in his last season of the rookie deal) and Harden (who can be redirected the same as Herro), but they don't have picks either.
Brooklyn: They can match with Simmons and picks but they won't do it. That $$$$$ at the end of Dame's deal is major turn off.
Atlanta: has two point guards already they are paying $$$ for. Why’d add $$$$$?
Milwaukee: Jrue is a far better defender on a cheaper deal. The team is running it back and right up against the wall.
Toronto: Maybe send Anunoby and Siakam for a disgruntled player? Why though? And $$$$$...
Lakers: That would be funny. I hope it happens to see Cronin get run out of town.
Clippers: really no assets. Their biggest names are expiring.
Utah: plenty of assets but Dame is going to play with kids and it won't be pretty. Same with Houston.
Sacramento have Fox.
New York has Brunson.
Phoenix already way past sanity in $$$$$
Denver has Murray who is better.
Memphis has Ja who is better.
Golden State have Steph who is much better.

Go down the list and tell me where the offer is coming from.

Chicago via Lavine. Nope.

Portland put a poison pill on Lillard by overpaying him. Miami is the only one insane enough to pull the trigger.

Murray and Ja are what?

Have you already forgotten how Murray & Jokic tore us apart. Dame isn't going to Denver. Forget it.

Ja is a freak but he's excellent.

If I am building a team and can choose any point guard in the league, I would probably take Dame fifth. I have Steph, SGA, Ja, and Luka as better. Fox in Sacramento is about the same. Garland and Brunson, too, are very good. I'm not as excited about Lillard as most of you are.

[SoFlaKingReal]

I don’t need to watch that video to know it makes zero sense for OKC to make a play for Dame lol

Cool stay in the safe homer zone. Disregard all other opinions, regardless if it's from people that definitely know more about basketball than you, i.e. Jason Timpf. Cover your ears and go 'lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala' and then maybe nobody else will hear it either! For the record, he doesn't think they'll do it, but he thinks it would make sense.

LMAO, then what are we even talking about here? Even the guy making the video doesn’t think it’ll happen.

[gom]

If you think adding Dame to that team means they'd get swept by Denver or Phoenix, then Dame isn't that good and we don't need to waste our time here with all this lol.

Well, adding Dame is certainly no guarantee of anything. He adds offensive punch. He subtracts from defense. I've been pretty consistent, fwiw. I like Dame. He's a great catch. Don't fall for the illusion though. This will still be a struggle.

[powerball1373]

I don’t need to watch that video to know it makes zero sense for OKC to make a play for Dame lol

Cool stay in the safe homer zone. Disregard all other opinions, regardless if it's from people that definitely know more about basketball than you, i.e. Jason Timpf. Cover your ears and go 'lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala' and then maybe nobody else will hear it either! For the record, he doesn't think they'll do it, but he thinks it would make sense.

I watched the video, he makes a compelling argument on paper but its still a team that's not ready to compete for a championship.

This OKC team as currently constructed hasn't even made the playoffs in the West yet, they are not going to go from out of the playoffs to contender just by adding Dame.

At best they'll make the playoffs and get outclassed by a more experienced team.

Similar situation just happened with Cleveland, they traded for Mitchell and have a bunch of bright young prospects on their roster but ultimately it resulted in a first round exit because they are not experienced enough in playoff basketball.

Dame has a a 3 year window here to make a real run at it as a go to guy before he's Chris Paul bouncing around the league trying to find the place he can win one, he hasn't got time to bet on the potential of something. Miami is the closest thing to a guarantee he has that the team will do everything it can to put itself in a position to win every year that he's here.

OKC aren't going to trade their picks they will keep building through the draft and when the right player presents itself that fits their timeline. Someone more around SGA's age then they will likely make a move for that player. OKC has positioned themselves better than any rebuilding team can for the next 10+ years they will be very calculated about any moves they make.

Fair, but I think OKCs young guys are further along than Cleveland's. Specifically SGA, who already made All-NBA First Team. If he takes another leap as expected, they're gonna be serious.

[gom]

SGA and LIllard would have a bad short defensive backcourt and redundancies in the offensive game.

[powerball1373]

I don’t need to watch that video to know it makes zero sense for OKC to make a play for Dame lol

Cool stay in the safe homer zone. Disregard all other opinions, regardless if it's from people that definitely know more about basketball than you, i.e. Jason Timpf. Cover your ears and go 'lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala' and then maybe nobody else will hear it either! For the record, he doesn't think they'll do it, but he thinks it would make sense.

LMAO, then what are we even talking about here? Even the guy making the video doesn’t think it’ll happen.

We're talking about other possibilities. Or we can rehash the same things from the past 8000 posts over and over and over. So, what do you think of Christian Wood? Can I interest you in Kelly Oubre?

[gom]

Cool stay in the safe homer zone. Disregard all other opinions, regardless if it's from people that definitely know more about basketball than you, i.e. Jason Timpf. Cover your ears and go 'lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala' and then maybe nobody else will hear it either! For the record, he doesn't think they'll do it, but he thinks it would make sense.

I watched the video, he makes a compelling argument on paper but its still a team that's not ready to compete for a championship.

This OKC team as currently constructed hasn't even made the playoffs in the West yet, they are not going to go from out of the playoffs to contender just by adding Dame.

At best they'll make the playoffs and get outclassed by a more experienced team.

Similar situation just happened with Cleveland, they traded for Mitchell and have a bunch of bright young prospects on their roster but ultimately it resulted in a first round exit because they are not experienced enough in playoff basketball.

Dame has a a 3 year window here to make a real run at it as a go to guy before he's Chris Paul bouncing around the league trying to find the place he can win one, he hasn't got time to bet on the potential of something. Miami is the closest thing to a guarantee he has that the team will do everything it can to put itself in a position to win every year that he's here.

OKC aren't going to trade their picks they will keep building through the draft and when the right player presents itself that fits their timeline. Someone more around SGA's age then they will likely make a move for that player. OKC has positioned themselves better than any rebuilding team can for the next 10+ years they will be very calculated about any moves they make.

Fair, but I think OKCs young guys are further along than Cleveland's. Specifically SGA, who already made All-NBA First Team. If he takes another leap as expected, they're gonna be serious.

SGA > Garland, but Cleveland's young front court is formidable.

[Daffy]

No. He doesn't have the market. Tell me who would trade for him. It pretty much needs to be a contender.

Boston: Brown is expiring (so dumb idea) and his supermax finishes that chance. Besides, they know Dame doesn't want to go there.
Cleveland: By the middle of the contract Garland is better.
Philadelphia: They can toss in Maxey (who is in his last season of the rookie deal) and Harden (who can be redirected the same as Herro), but they don't have picks either.
Brooklyn: They can match with Simmons and picks but they won't do it. That $$$$$ at the end of Dame's deal is major turn off.
Atlanta: has two point guards already they are paying $$$ for. Why’d add $$$$$?
Milwaukee: Jrue is a far better defender on a cheaper deal. The team is running it back and right up against the wall.
Toronto: Maybe send Anunoby and Siakam for a disgruntled player? Why though? And $$$$$...
Lakers: That would be funny. I hope it happens to see Cronin get run out of town.
Clippers: really no assets. Their biggest names are expiring.
Utah: plenty of assets but Dame is going to play with kids and it won't be pretty. Same with Houston.
Sacramento have Fox.
New York has Brunson.
Phoenix already way past sanity in $$$$$
Denver has Murray who is better.
Memphis has Ja who is better.
Golden State have Steph who is much better.

Go down the list and tell me where the offer is coming from.

Chicago via Lavine. Nope.

Portland put a poison pill on Lillard by overpaying him. Miami is the only one insane enough to pull the trigger.

Murray and Ja are what?

Lol dude I'm going to need him to elaborate. Cause that's one crazy take.