2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 1

[AirP.]

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[SerialChiller]

Meh I'd rather have a wing upgrade like DFS+Schroeder upgrade and let Herro and Jimmy take over the ball handling duties and make Bam as the third scorer threat.

We have enough scoring for now, just need to get better defensively when Bam is sitting.

Definitely need to find a way to improve defensively in those minutes but we need another elite scorer imo to beat the Celtics and someone like the Thunder and maybe Mavs. Schroder and DFS might be able to do it but idk, we’ve been mediocre until this recent stretch so I’m skeptical.

In a dream world we could get Fox and find a way to get DFS as well

We haven’t had a series since the bubble where Butler, Herro, and Bam were all healthy and playing together. How many scorers do we really need? Maybe it’s time to focus on addressing other issues on the court. Hopefully, we get the opportunity this year.

And that fact alone shows that we need more scorers lol. Bam isn't a scorer it's just not in his nature and never will be. He has some capabilities and worked hard to improve in different offensive areas be he will always be the guy who gets the ball and looks around instead of instantly looking at the basket. Not a scorer. Boston has them all up and down the roster and today's NBA is about big point totals. Just last game their like 2nd string PG outscored our 2 top guys combined or some crap. We need more scoring and then we need even more scoring. We are an extremely offensively challenged team.

In the bubble at least we had Duncan on his get a big contract A game and Dragic averaging 19 and 5. Jimmy was like 5 years younger as well, he needs help carrying the offensive load now more than ever and Herro is stepping up but it's not enough on this team. How often do we see like 4, 5, 6 min offensive droughts that cost us games where noone can get a bucket and Spo just watches no timeout no subs nothing. It's a common theme over the last number of years. We desperately traded for Rozier because of our extreme need for scoring.

[Rapaz]

Pat is laser focused on Reed Sheppard. Throw in Brooks and Adams as filler and you’ve got a DREAM HAUL.

Get it done, Pat!

[DayofMourning]

What bidding war? There aren't many teams that will be available and from that small group there aren't many different packages that can be made within NBA parameters with Miami barely under the 2nd apron which probably means somoene's also going to have to incentive a team like Detroit to offload some salary too.

Stay tuned!

Oh, I am, it's quite possible Butler will be on the strongest roster of his career by the 2nd half of this season.

You thinking GSW? If Butler can stay healthy theyd be better for it.

[Kobewade11]

When everything hitting all cylinders with this team and this happens. I'm super convinced FO don't want Jimmy here anymore.

The timing of the “report” is interesting, make of that what you will

What are you seeing kw?

I'm watching the next 24 hours to see if either side comments/strikes down the report. Looking at the situation logically, I can't find the motivation for a notoriously a tight lipped organization to put out they're "open" to listening to trade offers for what is still probably their best player amidst their best stretch of basketball. Likewise for the player/agent, cant find the motivation at this particular time. Radio silence or a rebuttal over the next 24 I think will tell the true story here.

[AirP.]

Im game for a bidding war for a top 5 playoff performer looking to win his 1st chip.

What bidding war? There aren't many teams that will be available and from that small group there aren't many different packages that can be made within NBA parameters with Miami barely under the 2nd apron which probably means somoene's also going to have to incentive a team like Detroit to offload some salary too.

If Houston or golden state are holding out on some picks that’s when you get them in a bidding war. How bad does Houston want to add a top 5 player when it matters most to their young core? How bad does Golden State want to try and get 1 more with Steph and Draymond?

There are avenues to explore.

I don't think Houston is all that interested at this time. It's been reported recently they're not moving any of their core players this season. What's expected is that they'll probably be looking to move Jalen Green when his extension kicks in this summer. Sengun's extension also kicks in and there's VanVleet's team option of 44 million there too.

[AirP.]

The timing of the “report” is interesting, make of that what you will

What are you seeing kw?

I'm watching the next 24 hours to see if either side comments/strikes down the report. Looking at the situation logically, I can't find the motivation for a notoriously a tight lipped organization to put out they're "open" to listening to trade offers for what is still probably their best player amidst their best stretch of basketball. Likewise for the player/agent, cant find the motivation at this particular time. Radio silence or a rebuttal over the next 24 I think will tell the true story here.

Here's what actually being reported, I could see this as a ploy from Butler's camp (Bernie Lee) to push towards an extension with Miami. I do think Butler wants to end his career in Miami.

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[SerialChiller]

lol Better late then never...

[twix2500]

Ingram and Fox will be targets.

[AirP.]

For a Butler to Dallas trade, it would involve a lot of contract stacking meaning Miami would have to move some players to make roster space. This is a big issue if you're not getting a bigger contract back from whatever team they want to trade him to. Golden State has Wiggins for a larger contract and Houston has VanVleet (not likely) and Brooks (more likely).

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[twix2500]

For a Butler to Dallas trade, it would involve a lot of contract stacking meaning Miami would have to move some players to make roster space. This is a big issue if you're not getting a bigger contract back from whatever team they want to trade him to.

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I do not beleive Mavs are a realistic destination.

[AirP.]

Here's Golden States more simplistic contract stacking..

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[twix2500]

If Pelicans decide to pay Ingram, they have to trade somebody. McCollum or Herb Jones. The Heat can use either one.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

What bidding war? There aren't many teams that will be available and from that small group there aren't many different packages that can be made within NBA parameters with Miami barely under the 2nd apron which probably means somoene's also going to have to incentive a team like Detroit to offload some salary too.

If Houston or golden state are holding out on some picks that’s when you get them in a bidding war. How bad does Houston want to add a top 5 player when it matters most to their young core? How bad does Golden State want to try and get 1 more with Steph and Draymond?

There are avenues to explore.

The goal should be to acquire trade peices, for trades that can be done later

Yes add assets for a run at Fox this summer and hopefully have assets after to fill out the roster

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If Pelicans decide to pay Ingram, they have to trade somebody. McCollum or Herb Jones. The Heat can use either one.

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Fox
Herro
Herb
Ingram
Bam

Would be very interesting

[AirP.]

If Houston or golden state are holding out on some picks that’s when you get them in a bidding war. How bad does Houston want to add a top 5 player when it matters most to their young core? How bad does Golden State want to try and get 1 more with Steph and Draymond?

There are avenues to explore.

The goal should be to acquire trade peices, for trades that can be done later

Yes add assets for a run at Fox this summer and hopefully have assets after to fill out the roster

Yes, the #1 goal for Miami with a Butler trade is gathering assets to try to find a new #1 but if that doesn't happen in the next 2 seasons expect the trade Bam talk to start.

[DayofMourning]

With Houston, Id look to get Jabari and Reed. Those upside guys look to be the least established of the Rox right now that youd want as a return.

[BBallFreak]

If Pelicans decide to pay Ingram, they have to trade somebody. McCollum or Herb Jones. The Heat can use either one.

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Fox
Herro
Herb
Ingram
Bam

Would be very interesting

We don't have the assets to pull that off.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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