2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

[SA37]

If we trade the 20th pick for Derozan, that should be all of the proof that we need the FO not willing to trade the 20th pick for Derozan is a lie lol.

I’d rather trade the pick for a 2nd this year and 2027 1st to help out with future stepien.

To trade for whom?

[oreon]

Keep Wiggins and trade Herro unless Miami can get Herro to accept significantly less than he is eligible for in an extension. Herro is worth ~$30M/year, but not $40+M/year.

Unlikely. The team will go all in on herro. And going by some of the pods I've listened to and read on message boards, heat fans are all in on Tyler more than any other heat player right now.

Yikes if true.

I like Herro, but not at the extension he is eligible for. Give me DeRozan at $48M over 2 seasons any time.

Or we can do nothing.

Sometimes the best option is to do nothing. Herro still has 2 years on his deal. We don't have to give him an extesnion. We don't have to trade for Derozan. FO has to accept that there are no logical moves left and next season is a gap year, dedicated to playing the youngs guys.

We can be proactive though and move some of the expirings and vets for picks. But we shouldn't rush for a trade. Play out next season. If we suck, it's all good. Next year is great draft as well, so that just means a good pick.

Keep our flexibility and see what you can do in the 2026 offseason when Heat have ton of cap space

[SoFlaKingReal]

I thought that jocksniffer Austin followed Jimmy to Golden State like AirP?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Tale a deep breath.

Just like with Lilard - we dogged a bullet here.


We need a deep rebuild, not a 37YO patch.

It's time to start a proper roster build from the ground up.

They’re not going to do that is the thing. I mean he’ll, you see how delusional they are by the players they refused to trade for him. This team has NO direction

[carnageta]

Over the past 6 weeks this entire sub has been like

"don't overpay for KD. Wiggins, Duncan, Jaimie, and the 20th pick is the MAX that I'm offering. If someone else overpays then stupid of them. We don't need a 37 year old on his last legs - look at OKC and Indiana! We need a youth movement."


But now its

"wow this FO is WASHED! They didn't want to include all of Jaime, Jovic, Highsmigth, and the 20th pick + more assets for KD. Washed!"

[VaDe255]

I’m bummed not going to lie. This front office is stuck in the mud. DeRozan can’t be an option

Emotions can be fickle. Deep down we all know KD to the Heat would have only set us back even further moving forward.

The frustration is driven by the delusion and desperation. I get it, but nothing will change until they find their next young star to build around.

38 year old KD wasn't getting us over the hump.

It was never about getting "over the hump", it was about improving this roster. KD was a nice piece for a cheap price, well Houston got a nice deal there instead of Miami.

[SA37]

Unlikely. The team will go all in on herro. And going by some of the pods I've listened to and read on message boards, heat fans are all in on Tyler more than any other heat player right now.

Yikes if true.

I like Herro, but not at the extension he is eligible for. Give me DeRozan at $48M over 2 seasons any time.

Or we can do nothing.

Sometimes the best option is to do nothing. Herro still has 2 years on his deal. We don't have to give him an extesnion. We don't have to trade for Derozan. FO has to accept that there are no logical moves left and next season is a gap year, dedicated to playing the youngs guys.

We can be proactive though and move some of the expirings and vets for picks. But we shouldn't rush for a trade. Play out next season. If we suck, it's all good. Next year is great draft as well, so that just means a good pick.

Keep our flexibility and see what you can do in the 2026 offseason when Heat have ton of cap space

Ok, but who are you going after in 2026?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/_/year/2026/type/ufa

[Kobewade11]

jaime, jovic, 20, and more draft assets is rich for me. I would have done Jaime, Jovic, and a pick

[carnageta]

If we can get Derozan without giving up any draft capital or young assets (except for Jaime), I'd do it.

Herro/DMitchell
Wiggins/Larrson
Derozan/Highsmigth
Bam/Jovic
Ware

Is a competitive core.

[fincane30]

The Heat made multiple offers for Durant but ultimately turned down the opportunity to place Jaime Jaquez Jr., Nikola Jovic, Haywood Highsmith, the No. 20 pick and other draft assets all together in a deal, sources said. From the Shams article on the trade.

So you guys were ok trading the whole bag(as small as it)for KD with nothing left to make another move?

[eddieheatfan]

This is absolutely for the best. We want the ball in Bam and Herro's hands.

[Daffy]

I'm not even surprised. I'm numb to it.

[carnageta]

jaime, jovic, 20, and more draft assets is rich for me. I would have done Jaime, Jovic, and a pick

Yeah dude. That's my interpretation as well. I highly doubt the FO wasn't willing to include some of these pieces. It's that the Suns wanted ALL of these + additional assets.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Getting off that Green contract is the win. He likely gets flipped.

Herro/Green backcourt should be fun...

[oreon]

Yikes if true.

I like Herro, but not at the extension he is eligible for. Give me DeRozan at $48M over 2 seasons any time.

Or we can do nothing.

Sometimes the best option is to do nothing. Herro still has 2 years on his deal. We don't have to give him an extesnion. We don't have to trade for Derozan. FO has to accept that there are no logical moves left and next season is a gap year, dedicated to playing the youngs guys.

We can be proactive though and move some of the expirings and vets for picks. But we shouldn't rush for a trade. Play out next season. If we suck, it's all good. Next year is great draft as well, so that just means a good pick.

Keep our flexibility and see what you can do in the 2026 offseason when Heat have ton of cap space

Ok, but who are you going after in 2026? Let's assume Doncic signs an extension with the Lakers.

If it was me, I would trade Bam Herro and look to rebuild now.

But they are not ready to do that, so next best option is punt a year and see what's available in 2026. Maybe Giannis doesn't sign that extension and he's available of Fox in Spurs doesn't work out because they have castle and he's on the market. And if nothing is there in 2026 then you nuke it and rebuild.

You just can't right now panic and make dumb moves because you lost out on KD. Keeping your assets + flexibility is better than Derozan or Malik Monk or players of that ilk

And its only one year. You gotta know when to be patient

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[SA37]

If we can get Derozan without giving up any draft capital or young assets (except for Jaime), I'd do it.

Herro/DMitchell
Wiggins/Larrson
Derozan/Highsmigth
Bam/Jovic
Ware

Is a competitive core.

Just to really inflame things, I'll throw in a Wiggins and Jovic for Randle trade and sign Schroder in FA. Full-throated offense :

Bam
Randle
DeRozan
Herro
Schroder

[carnageta]

The Heat made multiple offers for Durant but ultimately turned down the opportunity to place Jaime Jaquez Jr., Nikola Jovic, Haywood Highsmith, the No. 20 pick and other draft assets all together in a deal, sources said. From the Shams article on the trade.

So you guys were ok trading the whole bag(as small as it)for KD with nothing left to make another move?

If we had traded all of that for KD this whole sub would be saying that Pat is washed and needs to retire, and that we should be doing a youth movement.


Either way, this sub will say Pat is washed lol.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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If true then this makes me feel better. The front office is as garbage as I thought but not far worse than even I believed them to be.

None of those guys are untouchable to me though. They all grade out as above average role players at best

[SoFlaKingReal]

SEE.....Suns wanted ALL of that plus MORE.