2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports) 5.0

mawan041 · Post #1621 » by **mawan041** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:20 pm

KingDavid wrote:
mawan041 wrote:
KingDavid wrote:The same team that went to four straight finals...A slight improvement is better than none.

Our goal is NOT making the finals, it is winning it all. Playing in a weaker eastern conference, the Pacers self-imploding, etc.. were some factors that made it is pretty easy to get to our 4th finals appearance.

If you think those additions will help us beat the Spurs or some of the other Western Powerhouses then you are kidding yourself (with the only exception being the Thunder, we seem to match up well with them, although what happens next year is anyone's call).

With all due respect, stop using the past as a way of measuring what will happen in the future. We're not guaranteed a finals appearance.

We have issues with the roster, mainly interior defense and rebounding. Those things should be of grave concern and something the front office has to tackle. If they don't it will only be a matter of time until another great team exposes our weakness.
How about you sit tight and see what happens. We technically have only 3 players on our roster. We're obviously not done. You're preaching to the choir.

My main point has been to get people to stop overrating the signings of McBob and Granger. They don't solve any of our weaknesses yet some of the people here are acting like we have just struck gold.

It's just confusing more then anything else. Anyway, waiting is what we shall do.....

HeatNation88 · Post #1622 » by **HeatNation88** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:20 pm

FreeChef wrote:
Heat3 wrote:
Eaglenugget wrote:@SamAmicoFSO: Kyrie Irving has made recruiting pitch to LeBron James, sources say. ESPN reports Kyrie as saying Cavs will get LeBron all the help he needs

they haven't even gotten Kyrie the help he needs

by year 3 Wade was Finals MVP and Kyrie was looking at another lottery. sure, THIS time it'll be different. lebron not falling for that again.

This is hilarious to me too. As if Kyrie has any credibility talking to Lebron about knowing what it takes to win...

All Irving knows is winning the lotto :lol:

toeybox · Post #1623 » by **toeybox** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:21 pm

contract wrote:
toeybox wrote:Would people be happy with Melo? As in, if James left to go back to Cleveland we can replace him with Melo?

Not really. Melo just isn't a very good team player.

I think he is or can be a great team player. He's definitely a great catch and shoot guy. We can roll out with, Nappier, Wade, Melo, Roberts and Bosh. Wade can be the man again but how long he'd be able to keep that up is anyones guess.

sp6r=underrated · Post #1624 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:22 pm

This is an outsider's non-troll opinion.

The McRoberts signing is great. He's an above average player on the typical team with a skill-set that fits what you guys do. He brings some relative youth towards your roster as well. You may have slightly overpaid but overpaying during title contention periods isn't a major problem provided you leave some flexibility.

I also think many Heat fans are getting to hung up on the 2014 Finals.

First, a 5 game series is an awfully small sample size. The 2014 Spurs were better than the 2014 Heat but the margin wasn't anywhere close to 14 ppg. You play that series a 100 times and that is probably the 2nd or 3rd best performance SAS would get.

Second, there is no guarantee SAS is going to be back in the finals next year. The West is an absolute bloodbath so it would be a huge mistake to build your roster for one opponent especially when many critical players on that team are the age were they could collapse at any moment.

Obviously the biggest factor in your off-season is bringing back Lebron but this is a nice signing.

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As an aside, I'm shocked there are fans who want to replace Bosh with Melo. I'm not one of those Knick fans who hate Melo but Bosh's skill-set is far more valuable next to Lebron.

Post #1625 » by **KingDavid** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:23 pm

mawan041 wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
mawan041 wrote:

Our goal is NOT making the finals, it is winning it all. Playing in a weaker eastern conference, the Pacers self-imploding, etc.. were some factors that made it is pretty easy to get to our 4th finals appearance.

If you think those additions will help us beat the Spurs or some of the other Western Powerhouses then you are kidding yourself (with the only exception being the Thunder, we seem to match up well with them, although what happens next year is anyone's call).

With all due respect, stop using the past as a way of measuring what will happen in the future. We're not guaranteed a finals appearance.

We have issues with the roster, mainly interior defense and rebounding. Those things should be of grave concern and something the front office has to tackle. If they don't it will only be a matter of time until another great team exposes our weakness.
How about you sit tight and see what happens. We technically have only 3 players on our roster. We're obviously not done. You're preaching to the choir.

My main point has been to get people to stop overrating the signings of McBob and Granger. They don't solve any of our weaknesses yet some of the people here are acting like we have just struck gold.

It's just confusing more then anything else. Anyway, waiting is what we shall do.....

Yet you're acting as if we're done making moves. We have three solid improvements by position on our roster so far. Chill.

Post #1626 » by **GameTime_3** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:23 pm

Sign5 wrote:I swear some posters are coming on here pretending they were long time Heat fans saying "we" "our" but are actually non-heat fans trolling.

With your warning, the Mod team will destroy them!!!

"I have witnessed their capacity for courage on this board and though we are cities apart like the mod team theirs more to them then meets the posts! I am GameTime_3 and i send this message to any HEAT posters taking refuge among the stars we are here we are ready!!! Down with the trolls"

(For those that haven't seen the movies, Optiums always ends with something and this is my edit! Just encase LOL)

MiaFLSurf · Post #1627 » by **MiaFLSurf** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:24 pm

I wanted more signings.

MOAR SIGNINGS

xMADEinDADEx · Post #1628 » by **xMADEinDADEx** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:24 pm

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Vertical Limit · Post #1629 » by **Vertical Limit** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:24 pm

MiamiHeatFan6 wrote:
FreeChef wrote:
Heat3 wrote:
they haven't even gotten Kyrie the help he needs

by year 3 Wade was Finals MVP and Kyrie was looking at another lottery. sure, THIS time it'll be different. lebron not falling for that again.

This is hilarious to me too. As if Kyrie has any credibility talking to Lebron about knowing what it takes to win...

All Irving knows is winning the lotto

Amorphous Blob · Post #1630 » by **Amorphous Blob** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:25 pm

Irving talking about winning Lmao.

xMADEinDADEx · Post #1631 » by **xMADEinDADEx** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:25 pm

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RSCD3_ · Post #1632 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:25 pm

So did anyone realize that Orlando basically traded afflalo for frye

Dumarsian level dealing...

Trades billups for iverson to get the cap space to get Ben Gordon who he trades out with a top 10 pick in the deepest draft in 10 years lol

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Vertical Limit · Post #1633 » by **Vertical Limit** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:26 pm

I am baffled as well about Irving talking about winning, what the hell does he know about that.

xMADEinDADEx · Post #1634 » by **xMADEinDADEx** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:26 pm

MiaFLSurf wrote:I wanted more signings.

MOAR SIGNINGS

We'll so far:
Napier
Cole
McBob
Granger

Assuming:
Ennis (we hold rights)
Bosh
Bron
Wade

4 more signings at least..
3 if ham comes back, 2 if Ray comes back. Oh wait.. 1 more if UD comes back

djkeem · Post #1635 » by **djkeem** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:27 pm

i really hope miami gives hamilton a chance this season.
Not to sound mean because i like oden's character, but he has yet to show he can stay healthy for a full season.

RSCD3_ · Post #1636 » by **RSCD3_** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:27 pm

MiaFLSurf wrote:I wanted more signings.

MOAR SIGNINGS

Michael Beasley about to ink a 3 year Miami deal

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Post #1637 » by **PaulieWal** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:28 pm

DeeDub wrote:Thomas isn't a bad defender, so not sure why we'd be severaly lacking there.

Thomas is a bad defender. All of his defensive stats (advanced) are quite lacking and judging by the eye-test he doesn't look good as a defender either. I wouldn't count Wade's defensive consistency/intensity going forward either. I don't know about you but I think a backcourt of Wade/Thomas/Napier/Allen is going to be a mess defensively.

Altered_Beast · Post #1638 » by **Altered_Beast** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:29 pm

RSCD3_ wrote:
MiaFLSurf wrote:I wanted more signings.

MOAR SIGNINGS

Michael Beasley about to ink a 3 year Miami deal

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sauces?

Umbooki · Post #1639 » by **Umbooki** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:31 pm

I really hope we play the young talent that we have. If Ennis/Hamilton becomes bench buddies with Beas, I might cry.

Jipluralx · Post #1640 » by **Jipluralx** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:31 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:This is an outsider's non-troll opinion.

The McRoberts signing is great. He's an above average player on the typical team with a skill-set that fits what you guys do. He brings some relative youth towards your roster as well. You may have slightly overpaid but overpaying during title contention periods isn't a major problem provided you leave some flexibility.

I also think many Heat fans are getting to hung up on the 2014 Finals.

First, a 5 game series is an awfully small sample size. The 2014 Spurs were better than the 2014 Heat but the margin wasn't anywhere close to 14 ppg. You play that series a 100 times and that is probably the 2nd or 3rd best performance SAS would get.

Second, there is no guarantee SAS is going to be back in the finals next year. The West is an absolute bloodbath so it would be a huge mistake to build your roster for one opponent especially when many critical players on that team are the age were they could collapse at any moment.

Obviously the biggest factor in your off-season is bringing back Lebron but this is a nice signing.

_____________________________________________

As an aside, I'm shocked there are fans who want to replace Bosh with Melo. I'm not one of those Knick fans who hate Melo but Bosh's skill-set is far more valuable next to Lebron.

LOL What the?? That's just **** nonsense. Pure speculation. Just no parameters to support this "assumption".
I could easily say, out of 100 games between Miami and San Antonio, Spurs win ~50 by double digits. Pure speculation as well, but who would bet against that?