Miami Heat 22-23 Regular Season Thread 2.0

[Timantha]

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Duncan will shoot lights off after this surgery

[IceColdCubano]

So Duncan out 4 weeks with Finger surgery, MF picked the perfect time to make sure he isn't trade eligible to pass a physical or Maybe so he can't get traded and look even worse as an asset.

Teams can waive physicals, one of the more recently times that this happened was when NO waived CJ's physical for their trade with Portland.

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Ummmm who is waiving a physical for Duncan???? Legit serious here.....C'mon son!

[Wiltside]

I seem to recall the final year of Duncan’s deal is non-guaranteed. Is that right?

[MettaWorldPanda]

I seem to recall the final year of Duncan’s deal is non-guaranteed. Is that right?

Partial guarantee for 10 million

[Wiltside]

I seem to recall the final year of Duncan’s deal is non-guaranteed. Is that right?

Partial guarantee for 10 million

Not as good as I’d hoped, but still not too bad.

I feel we’re likely stuck with him for another 12 to 18 months though.

[MartyCONLONNN]

So Duncan out 4 weeks with Finger surgery, MF picked the perfect time to make sure he isn't trade eligible to pass a physical or Maybe so he can't get traded and look even worse as an asset.

Teams can waive physicals, one of the more recently times that this happened was when NO waived CJ's physical for their trade with Portland.

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Ummmm who is waiving a physical for Duncan???? Legit serious here.....C'mon son!

Duncan was always going to be a throw in in any trade where other assets (picks, Jovic, Gabe) were the actual value assets of interest. Duncan was always effectively going to be salary filler to make a trade work money wise. he was never going to be in anyones 8 man rotation, or be a difference maker… so if he was ever going to be traded, it changes nothing and another team would absolutely waive that because they were always looking at the value of the other assets,not duncan (also his surgery isnt a big deal). pretty simple logic but the Duncan hate is clouding everyone so much that theyre losing sight of the business sense of any potential Duncan trade.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Teams can waive physicals, one of the more recently times that this happened was when NO waived CJ's physical for their trade with Portland.

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Ummmm who is waiving a physical for Duncan???? Legit serious here.....C'mon son!

Duncan was always going to be a throw in in any trade where other assets (picks, Jovic, Gabe) were the actual value assets of interest. Duncan was always effectively going to be salary filler to make a trade work money wise. he was never going to be in anyones 8 man rotation, or be a difference maker… so if he was ever going to be traded, it changes nothing and another team would absolutely waive that because they were always looking at the value of the other assets,not duncan (also his surgery isnt a big deal). pretty simple logic but the Duncan hate is clouding everyone so much that theyre losing sight of the business sense of any potential Duncan trade.

This. I don’t see it effecting anything that he’s out the next 4 weeks

[Flash4thewin]

Teams can waive physicals, one of the more recently times that this happened was when NO waived CJ's physical for their trade with Portland.

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Ummmm who is waiving a physical for Duncan???? Legit serious here.....C'mon son!

Duncan was always going to be a throw in in any trade where other assets (picks, Jovic, Gabe) were the actual value assets of interest. Duncan was always effectively going to be salary filler to make a trade work money wise. he was never going to be in anyones 8 man rotation, or be a difference maker… so if he was ever going to be traded, it changes nothing and another team would absolutely waive that because they were always looking at the value of the other assets,not duncan (also his surgery isnt a big deal). pretty simple logic but the Duncan hate is clouding everyone so much that theyre losing sight of the business sense of any potential Duncan trade.

It's not hate, more like cold hard reality. Who will take on Duncan and that contract for Jovic, a rookie who cant get playing time? Gabe will somehow make taking on Duncan rational? Honestly none of that makes any sense. You are basically asking a team to take up 20 mil of dead space for 4 years to get "assets" that have questionable real "value" here. The Pistons got a lottery pick for their cap space for one season. We are trying to entice a team to give up 4 years of cap space with Jovic and Gabe?

[MartyCONLONNN]

Ummmm who is waiving a physical for Duncan???? Legit serious here.....C'mon son!

Duncan was always going to be a throw in in any trade where other assets (picks, Jovic, Gabe) were the actual value assets of interest. Duncan was always effectively going to be salary filler to make a trade work money wise. he was never going to be in anyones 8 man rotation, or be a difference maker… so if he was ever going to be traded, it changes nothing and another team would absolutely waive that because they were always looking at the value of the other assets,not duncan (also his surgery isnt a big deal). pretty simple logic but the Duncan hate is clouding everyone so much that theyre losing sight of the business sense of any potential Duncan trade.

It's not hate, more like cold hard reality. Who will take on Duncan and that contract for Jovic, a rookie who cant get playing time? Gabe will somehow make taking on Duncan rational? Honestly none of that makes any sense. You are basically asking a team to take up 20 mil of dead space for 4 years to get "assets" that have questionable real "value" here. The Pistons got a lottery pick for their cap space for one season. We are trying to entice a team to give up 4 years of cap space with Jovic and Gabe?

This suggests that Duncan was never viable to get traded in the first place which I disagree - it would just take enticing with a pick and value player like Strus lets say for a player like Bey for example. Historically, rebuilding teams take on crappy contracts to accrue additional assets so i dont see this as anything particularly unique

[AirP.]

Ummmm who is waiving a physical for Duncan???? Legit serious here.....C'mon son!

Duncan was always going to be a throw in in any trade where other assets (picks, Jovic, Gabe) were the actual value assets of interest. Duncan was always effectively going to be salary filler to make a trade work money wise. he was never going to be in anyones 8 man rotation, or be a difference maker… so if he was ever going to be traded, it changes nothing and another team would absolutely waive that because they were always looking at the value of the other assets,not duncan (also his surgery isnt a big deal). pretty simple logic but the Duncan hate is clouding everyone so much that theyre losing sight of the business sense of any potential Duncan trade.

It's not hate, more like cold hard reality. Who will take on Duncan and that contract for Jovic, a rookie who cant get playing time? Gabe will somehow make taking on Duncan rational? Honestly none of that makes any sense. You are basically asking a team to take up 20 mil of dead space for 4 years to get "assets" that have questionable real "value" here. The Pistons got a lottery pick for their cap space for one season. We are trying to entice a team to give up 4 years of cap space with Jovic and Gabe?

It's more like 3 more years at 19 million. What you'd probably get back is someone else on a bad contract and both teams making a trade for a better fit on their teams.

For instance, maybe Orlando would move J.Isaac who hasn't played since the bubble year because of an injury for a 3pt shooter who does actually play. How about Washington who acquired KP last year after extending D.Gafford for 13 mil a year for the next 3 years and would like to add more 3pt shooting.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Duncan was always going to be a throw in in any trade where other assets (picks, Jovic, Gabe) were the actual value assets of interest. Duncan was always effectively going to be salary filler to make a trade work money wise. he was never going to be in anyones 8 man rotation, or be a difference maker… so if he was ever going to be traded, it changes nothing and another team would absolutely waive that because they were always looking at the value of the other assets,not duncan (also his surgery isnt a big deal). pretty simple logic but the Duncan hate is clouding everyone so much that theyre losing sight of the business sense of any potential Duncan trade.

It's not hate, more like cold hard reality. Who will take on Duncan and that contract for Jovic, a rookie who cant get playing time? Gabe will somehow make taking on Duncan rational? Honestly none of that makes any sense. You are basically asking a team to take up 20 mil of dead space for 4 years to get "assets" that have questionable real "value" here. The Pistons got a lottery pick for their cap space for one season. We are trying to entice a team to give up 4 years of cap space with Jovic and Gabe?

It's more like 3 more years at 19 million. What you'd probably get back is someone else on a bad contract and both teams making a trade for a better fit on their teams.

For instance, maybe Orlando would move J.Isaac who hasn't played since the bubble year because of an injury for a 3pt shooter who does actually play. How about Washington who acquired KP last year after extending D.Gafford for 13 mil a year for the next 3 years and would like to add more 3pt shooting.

Basically, you're looking for another team who has someone they want to move where both teams exchange bad salaries for a more needed position on their team.

Duncan for Bertans is probably as good as it’s going to get lol

[Wiltside]

I’d take it MWP. Gets us out of the deal a year earlier.

[puppa bear]

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In the replies someone mentioned FVV did a similar thing (unfollowing the Raptors). Perhaps the Raptors are due for a blow-up as per a previous tweet, but a D’Lo for FVV swap?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Take a couple minutes to admire our best regular season players highlights.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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In the replies someone mentioned FVV did a similar thing (unfollowing the Raptors). Perhaps the Raptors are due for a blow-up as per a previous tweet, but a D’Lo for FVV swap?

Heat wolves raptors could whip up some pretty good 3 team deals

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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What an absolute fleece that would be lol. Feel like seventy just pulling stuff out of his ass today

[heatwillbeback]

I would like either Russell. I think we need more of a scoring PG.

It’s also not like Lowry is defending really well either.

[heatwillbeback]

Here goes my final offer to the Wolves

PG Kyle Lowry
SF Caleb Martin
2029 unprotected 1st round pick

for

PG D'Angelo Russell
PF Naz Reid

Feel like this deal is more then fair for both sides. Both teams also come out below the tax line.

This would massively help us this year IMO.

However, a pet peeve of mine is unprotected firsts too far in the future. You never know and that could be a top 5 pick. I'd do this lottery protected, even top 8 or so protected. I wouldn't want to give a 2029 unprotected first.

[al bondiga]

It seems that Nicola jovic is done with the heat... especially now that Full House Orlando Robinson, he is a spo guy... may not be half as talented as jovic ...but he seems like a hard worker and very similar UD type

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I would like either Russell. I think we need more of a scoring PG.

It’s also not like Lowry is defending really well either.

Yea we definitely have the worst defensive back court in the league